DUET 2400 (LED FIXTURE) - UP TO 2400 WATTS (Flip Chip Opto)

Johnnycannaseed1

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A square COB won't satisfy the corners like a square French meal, I'm afraid. You're much better off pursuing your current strategy of simply spreading smaller COBs apart to get the desired even distribution pattern.
Duet 60 @ 100 watts @ 100 watts heatsink

FYI - This is a non standard product just to test our Duet chips.




I am very much a functionality performance type of guy... But I have to agree that ying yang design is fricking cool:clap:
 

tstick

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Yeah, man! That looks very intriguing! I know some people who will be VERY interested to get a few of these in their testing facility! Yin Yang symbol is awesome and what a cool way to personalize your design! NICE!
 

Corso312

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What's the footprint for this? 20" x 20" ?

I only have one led light and I've never built one but this looks like it would be intense light in a very small area.. Its a cool lookin light and the parts look good, just don't look ideal for growing in my novice opinion.
 

URSA LED

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What's the footprint for this? 20" x 20" ?

I only have one led light and I've never built one but this looks like it would be intense light in a very small area.. Its a cool lookin light and the parts look good, just don't look ideal for growing in my novice opinion.
Hi Corso312,

Are you talking about the 2400W (runs at 50%/1200W) Fixture or the 100W Fixture?
I don't have PPFD values at distance yet, we should be getting that by this week.

Hanging the 100W from 2 FT from cannopy and 5 ft from floor gives you a grow space of about 4x4FT
 

BuddyColas

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It's already for sale, but at limited quantities. We're just waiting for our PPFD numbers from our lab, then we'll put our lights online.
I respect that you are double checking your numbers before you publish them (this RIU can be a pretty tough crowd if you don't have your poop in a group!). So what is the MSRP on the Duet 60?
 

URSA LED

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Duet 60 @ 100W Fixture most likely won't make it on the shelves.

Duet 100 @ 100W will be a standard product, same design just with a more appropriate COB wattage instead of driving the Duet 60 @ almost twice the power. It will be for sale for around $250-$350 with an option to include a 10 year warranty.

Light source expected to last 10 years+ and comes with a 5 year warranty, PSU comes with a 5 YEAR warranty and heatsinks are all passive and do not wear away.
 

tstick

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This is getting good!

I'd recommend you try and keep the cost of the Duet 100 under $250, though...because you've already got people making modular fixtures that are tested and proven (Kessel, A51, etc.) for less than that. Get it down to $175-$200 and you'll sell a ton of them. That yin-yang thing is about the coolest thing ever!

I don't think the super-long warranty is all that much of a selling point -because, as we all can realize, it's really just a matter of a few years before today's technology becomes outmoded by "the next big thing"... I think people realize that, now...so extended warranties are irrelevant...in my opinion, of course! :)

I like the idea of the Duet cobs..... a lot, but I think you should hit the market aggressively and priced lower than the other, modular-based-design competitors.
 
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URSA LED

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This is getting good!

I'd recommend you try and keep the cost of the Duet 100 under $250, though...because you've already got people making modular fixtures that are tested and proven (Kessel, A51, etc.) for less than that. Get it down to $175-$200 and you'll sell a ton of them. That yin-yang thing is about the coolest thing ever!

I don't think the super-long warranty is all that much of a selling point -because, as we all can realize, it's really just a matter of a few years before today's technology becomes outmoded by "the next big thing"... I think people realize that, now...so extended warranties are irrelevant...in my opinion, of course! :)

I like the idea of the Duet cobs..... a lot, but I think you should hit the market aggressively and priced lower than the other, modular-based-design competitors.
Hi tstick,

Great suggestion. It's on par to our discussions in the company.
The reason why we are selling them at a higher price, is because by Q2-3, the current product line will be replaced by a modular design with extended features, flat panel, thin, light weight, etc. We'll still be selling our Helios fixtures, but by then, everyone will be more interested in our modular based COB platform.
 

tstick

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Thanks for the response to my post, Alex. Yeah, a lightweight, flat fixture would probably be preferable for a lot of people. I just hope you can put something out there at an entry-level price so that curiosity seekers can get into the technology and try it out to see how well it works.

It might be a cool idea to emphasize the fact that your light is part of the company that builds the lights that light up the DMZ! Too cool, man! ...You could make an ad and have the lights shining down on the DMZ -North Korean guard on one side, South Korean guard on the other side...suddenly cannabis plants sprout up into full flower on the DMZ and then both the North and South border guards put down their weapons, take a smoke break together...in peace...brought to you by Flip Chip Opto! LOL! :)
 

Mr. Candiano

Active Member
Most probably ,it will do .
People ,seem to forget ,that aside from the photosynthetic value of 660 nm red ,
it has a great photomorphogenic and a very profound circadian effect too .

Supplying the whole 600-700 nm red band ,
is way better than any combo of monochromatic red leds...
Let alone from just a single type ...

(...)The most staple waveband of light that anchors SSL LED arrays for plant growth is red.
Broad-band red (600-700nm) light has, by far, the highest quantum
efficiency for driving photosynthesis, with a broad peak from about 620 to 660 nm
(11). As well, red has numerous photomorphogenic effects on plant development
mediated by the photoreversible pigment phytochrome.In general, red light
promotes stem elongation, leaf expansion, biomass accumulation, and contributes to
a phytochrome photostationary state (PPS) that can determine flowering, dormancy,
and other important photomorphogenic responses of plants, including seed germination.(...)

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20150009399.pdf
Cary Mitchell knows his shit. Former IN man now Pure MI
 

nevergoodenuf

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Hey @Alex Lau , I meant to ask you about the heatsinks. How many of the 320 watt heat sinks do you have? I might need 4 or more soon. How many do you have? Also, what is the lumens of the Luna 300 80cri 4000K @ 250 watts with a Tj of 60c. The 90cri seems to be 20,000 lux less than the 80cri, but it is also 2700k.
Are you going to strategies in light show? I am meeting VP of sales for CDIweb there. We will have to talk then.
 
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