i had the same question, do you need to flush when using all organics??? im 24 days into flowering, using Fish bone meal and about to use some earth juice bloom. from what im reading on this site, and other sites, i probably dont have to flush........i have a question tho, are you supposed to starve the plant before harvest? meaning not water it for a while...? i dont know what im talking about, can somebody explain to me....? thx....
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Well madodah, I guess us 'kids' ought to shut up and leave it to the self proclaimed 'pro' who apparently can't even get his spell check to work. I've got things to do in the garden.
Good luck, guys.
Wet
I've about decided participation in this so-called organic forum is like being an atheist in a Christian fundamentalist church; the worship of mythical dogma never ends.Well madodah, I guess us 'kids' ought to shut up and leave it to the self proclaimed 'pro' who apparently can't even get his spell check to work. I've got things to do in the garden.
Good luck, guys.
Wet
Gr33nCrack
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hahaha this is quite the thread i love how 2 long time growers both have opposite opinion on how to grow. Snap, crackle and pop weeed lmaaaoo... I am as new as they come but i would personally say FUCK THAT when it comes to not flushing. How are you gonna spend 6 or 7 months on growing some good ass herb and then be dissatisfied with having a harsh or shitty taste cause you didnt flush your plants. I bought a bottle of flora kleen cause i heard it helps the buds develope more in the end and helps with taste, I'm using mainly organics but I've read like 98 percent of people flush there plants at least a week maybe 5 days before harvest. I would think growing with some compost would allow enough nutrients for the plants to finish, now i see why with hydro there might be a problem. these are my nutes 
LAX Skunky BwS
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you dont need to flush with organic?? it's not chemical.. so what are flushing??
Mr.Therapy Man
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Nitrogen, phosforous,and who knows what else,Im not argueing about something this stupid anymore.....Plain and simple....Flush your smoke!!!!!
Felder
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I would say flush them. Been growing for a while(also with EJ nutes) and the difference between flushed and non flushed is noticeable.
Just because they are "organic" doesn't mean that they are not chemicals, just not manufactured chemicals. A good cure is important, not denying that but just like I wouldn't spray chemical fertilizer on my bud before consumption I also wouldn't cover it in bat shit. Flush it so you are tasting sweet sweet green and nothing else. Just my 2 cents.
Just because they are "organic" doesn't mean that they are not chemicals, just not manufactured chemicals. A good cure is important, not denying that but just like I wouldn't spray chemical fertilizer on my bud before consumption I also wouldn't cover it in bat shit. Flush it so you are tasting sweet sweet green and nothing else. Just my 2 cents.
tomalock
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They apparently are using some type of chemical nutrient and are not aware it is chemical-based, 100% natural organic nutrients need no flushing NEVER HAVE, it is the chemical-based nutrients that need the flushing ONLY.
I am in no way refereing to the 100% natural organics they sell on the market, I am refereing to the organic matter you find in nature that HAS NOT been processed, all the nutrients you desire can be found in nature all you have to do is look and ye shall find.
I might add I stop feeding plants 3 weeks before harvest, the soil has enough nutrient to carry/feed it for longer than that.
Gr33nCrack
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exactly, if you have good dirt with compost and worm castings and all that shit it acts a long lasting source. And technically you aren't starving the plant in anyway, your just riding it off excess nutrients that have built up. If you were really dying to squeeze out all those massive buds I'm sure it wouldn't kill the smoke, but either way why run the risk of having your bud taste like bat shit. Jorge would know the answer damnit
tomalock
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Jorge does NOT know everything.
I go back father than that, my ancestor's have always done that. I come from a long line of farmers and all agree.
You are using processed organic nutrients, you need to flush, what you use has chemicals in it regardless of what it says. All the produce grown on this farm has chicken shit added each and every year, NONE of the fruits or vegetables we grow taste like chicken shit.
Natural organic matter/nutrients DO NOT effect the taste of any fruit or vegetable, never has never will. Processed and chemical nutrients have/need flushing NOT natural organic matter/nutrients.
Mr.Therapy Man
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This is a earth juice thread not pig and chicken shit!!So now your opinion is you need to flush the earth juice!!Am I getting that RIGHT??
tomalock
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You could not pay me enough to use pig shit,that mess is worthless. I was not talking about Earth Juice I was refering to what I mentioned about flushing and organic matter/nutrients not needing it.
You posted a picture of what you use, it is all processed nutrients it needs to be flushed, if you go and get the organic matter from nature, such as manures and wood ash and bone meal (which has all main nutrients for growth) and a few other things, it DOES NOT need to be flushed it will in NO WAY effect the taste of finished product if it is cured properly. I have used that plus a addition of trace elements earily in the season for over 35 years and I have NEVER EVER FLUSHED, never had a need to and after my cannabis is cured it taste just fine with no after taste of ANY chemical.
Gr33nCrack
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true and most of that stuff is completely natural, but not organic since chickens and what not don't always eat organic food, but it goes through the break down process so its all natural, like the grass i add to my compost pile is fertilized with scotts turf builder , chemical with organic but still natural -compost for cannabis --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUl5JskAAQ
tomalock
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I beg to differ the chickens now raised by Predue are feed natural feed/grains, the manure I use comes straight from the pile right after it is removed from the houses. Free-range chickens have a better manure over house-raised ones, and I think organic is natural and vice-versa, if it's made in nature it is natural and organic.