Emerald Triangl products owners respond about carcinogens

....just so everybody knows, chemicals, too, came from the Earth. Just sayin'. Also, when you organic nutes become 'of urea' (piss) then they are also the same exact chemicals that come in chem nutrients, they just take longer to become absorb-able. Organic may give a "better taste" (for some people) but that doesn't make 'em better by any means. Neither does liking them or using them yourself, just because they work better for you does not mean they're just better.

I'd still use it and smoke it if you have already had pleasant results form it and have smoked the results without getting ill, then give it hell.

jackbog said:

The reason i started this thread is because i was using snow storm and crystal burst witch did a outstanding job but i did not want to use it if it was bad for me or to smoke. So what does everyone think use it or not?

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You should be the one deciding that, it's your body.

stoned cockatoo said:

I still wouldnt drink it. What the fuck is it in the drinking water for ?

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Probably the same reason there are traces of farm chemicals in it...Run off from rain and getting into water ways and aquifers. There are even traces of pharmaceuticals in water due to people flushing expired drugs down the toilet.

Many states (mine included) put fluoride into their tap water, not only is fluoride known to be an ingredient of rat poison but it also has never been shown to prevent cavities... look it up, it will surprise/scare you.

|B3RNY| said:

Lol, people will smoke cigarettes with 200+ different carcinogens KNOWN to cause cancer but are worried about carcinogens in their plant food that less than 500 parts per billion; wtf. I mean, I have no idea if anyone here smokes cigarettes or not but that's just funny to me. There's also bleach and fluoride in drinking water; when you're talking parts per billion (especially when lower than 500), it would have to have a very 'potent' toxicity to hurt a fly, I would think anyways. I've never used any of their products but this is an interesting thread.

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^^ THIS POINT EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! i dont smoke cigs(never will) i find it funny that people are bitching about these products and saying they are shady. They got removed big whoop and now other companys are making the same PAC spray like BushLoad and they just throw in that its for "Ornamental Plants" and that makes it ok to sell ??? i dont think they are doing anything shady(not like Advanced getting a SHIT ton of products removed for not having right doses in bottles they claim)
and whose to know if the tobacco farmers arent using Excess amounts on there crop. ALSO besides all this has anyone used they new 3part its a grow,micro,bloom molasses based.?

If we didn't run across toxic materials, in trace amounts, then we'd have no immunity to them..

Wow i love what every one had to say, i definitely have a different outlook on non organic products in a good way. Thank you everone for all your thoughts.

|B3RNY| said:

If we didn't run across toxic materials, in trace amounts, then we'd have no immunity to them..

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Good luck building up an immunity to toxic materials like arsenic or mercury.

Lol, look it up and see if there isn't a maximum amount allowed in your tapwater by the FDA. You already have an immunity to arsenic in very scarce amounts. Mecury as well, there's mercury in all kinds of foods, it makes them controversial but people still eat them all the time.

If you have ever smoked a cigarette or inhaled 2nd hand smoke then you've had another dose of arsenic. Poison is in almost everything you consume, usually in trace amounts.

http://youtu.be/SGb6F-ZOUIc
http://youtu.be/98JGlc5Ivm8

...unless you're Jesus, you have ingested and built an 'immunity' (mean your consuming poison daily and you're still alive) to poisons in very small amounts.

jackbog said:

Its not really gmo its more about what some companies put in our foods. Organic foods are grown with only what the earth has provided not with what chemicals man can make.

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With regards to elements like Nitrogen there is no difference between the N in a pure mineral salt (that's what these are, pure mineral salts) and the N you find in the soil for your plant.. they are the same. N is N.. that's what element means. It's not a molecule.. It's a element.

It's about how it's made and what you want to support and what you're use to using.

There was a study just released that stated that organically grown food was not more nutritious then food grown with pure mineral salts.

Do you know where they get the N for plant foods? It's sequestered from the air you're breathing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen

Nitrogen gas is an industrial gas produced by the fractional distillation of liquid air, or by mechanical means using gaseous air (i.e., pressurized reverse osmosis membrane or Pressure swing adsorption). Commercial nitrogen is often a byproduct of air-processing for industrial concentration of oxygen for steelmaking and other purposes.

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|B3RNY| said:

If you have ever smoked a cigarette or inhaled 2nd hand smoke then you've had another dose of arsenic. Poison is in almost everything you consume, usually in trace amounts.

http://youtu.be/SGb6F-ZOUIc
http://youtu.be/98JGlc5Ivm8

...unless you're Jesus, you have ingested and built an 'immunity' (mean your consuming poison daily and you're still alive) to poisons in very small amounts.

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Just because toxins in small amounts don't kill you, that doesn't mean you have an immunity. Arsenic will kill you over time if you ingest too much because its very hard for the body to get rid of, so it builds up over time and exposure.

Yes, poison will kill you if you take too much of it. I obviously meant tolerance, not immunity. The EPA set a maximum "acceptable" level of arsenic in drinking water (10 PPB), but nothing on food. Rice among several other common foods contain arsenic (in very small amounts still) that were controversial/on the news. You should really learn more about it because there are trace amounts of it in all living creatures. You shouldn't spread misinformation about toxins/poisons either; arsenic is excreted from your body through your hair, nails, sweat & mostly through urine. There is a level of it that can be tolerated.
...it's in the Earth's crust, the air, food, water, people, plants, animals...

I'm just sayin.

http://www.arsenicfacts.usarice.com/arsenic-in-food.html

Anyways, I don't think that trace amounts of carcinogens in nutrients could harm you/your smoke. There's going to be trace amounts of toxic stuff in just about all kinds of nutrients; "trace" amounts is the key to that though. One good thing to do is grow extra plants so you can test products and experiment on them without risking your regular crop.

|B3RNY| said:

Anyways, I don't think that trace amounts of carcinogens in nutrients could harm you/your smoke. There's going to be trace amounts of toxic stuff in just about all kinds of nutrients; "trace" amounts is the key to that though. One good thing to do is grow extra plants so you can test products and experiment on them without risking your regular crop.

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I wonder why these weed scientists are concerned about it then?

[video=youtube;_J8q2vDGz5k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8q2vDGz5k&feature=player_embedded[/video]

So taking a plant and igniting it to 350 degrees and inhaling the smoke is the same as ingesting it?

patlpp said:

So taking a plant and igniting it to 350 degrees and inhaling the smoke is the same as ingesting it?

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yes.

[h=3]in·gest/inˈjest/
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Verb:

Take (food, drink, or another substance) into the body by swallowing or absorbing it.

Thank You wise ass lol.

No, cannabis and cannabis smoke are not the same thing but you can "ingest" either. "Weed scientists" lol, that's a company talking shit because they want you to buy their shit instead. What they're talking about is carcinogens above the limit, which is more than trace amounts (and not at all what I have been talking about.) If it's above a healthy limit then of course it's bad. No rocket science there. Those guys have as much credibility as Advanced Nutrients, they'll also tell you that every other company sells poison and act like their's is liquid gold... the truth is carcinogens are all over the place, if you have smoked pot before then you've already ingested these "poisons" and you're still alive, imagine that.

I dunno, but somehow the fact that we're consuming poisons everywhere already hardly seems like a good excuse to not avoid additional poison intake whenever possible.