Ever think about growing? Here's why you SHOULD

see4

see4

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Your statement, a very specific "fact", Hemp Oil will cure all cancers, with leukemia being the fastest in about 15days of treatment, is just total bullshit. That is why I said no. I don't need to go look up some article on some unreliable website to know that is total bullshit.
 
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minnesmoker

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Arcturon said:
BTW, 60days worth of Hemp Oil will cure all cancers, with leukemia being the fastest in about 15days of treatment, due to it's presence in blood. It will also help reverse the effects of diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, heart disease, and numerous other ailments, mental disorders, and diseases.
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Unless you have multiple double-blind studies with 100% success rate in the cannabis group, you cannot even begin to make a claim like this. I'm all for medicinal cannabis, and have been using it successfully in that manner for a number of years now. It is a miracle cure, it'll be a major advance in medicine when it's legalized, or at least legalized for medical research. But, your statement is as unfounded as is the government's argument that it's harmful.
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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see4 said:
Your statement, a very specific "fact", Hemp Oil will cure all cancers, with leukemia being the fastest in about 15days of treatment, is just total bullshit. That is why I said no. I don't need to go look up some article on some unreliable website to know that is total bullshit.
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The fact that you will not do the research show me that you have no idea what you are talking about. Photo and lab evidence to prove my point in thousands of cases, and no evidence to prove that it has the opposite effect.

check out hose videos, you'll see a man's skin cancer eradicated, with photos taken through the course of the oil treatment, a man with Parkinson's convulsing so bad that he can't talk or remain in a chair without hitting the floor, and after he hits the joint, he recedes into his chairs with control of his movement and the ability to construct full sentences. The tears in his eyes and the tests done to prove it are evidence enough.
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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minnesmoker said:
Unless you have multiple double-blind studies with 100% success rate in the cannabis group, you cannot even begin to make a claim like this. I'm all for medicinal cannabis, and have been using it successfully in that manner for a number of years now. It is a miracle cure, it'll be a major advance in medicine when it's legalized, or at least legalized for medical research. But, your statement is as unfounded as is the government's argument that it's harmful.
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I do. I actually have double-blind peer reviewed government studies proving this, they are in the very first post.
 
srh88

srh88

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tibberous said:
How about we quit promoting growing, because everyone and their fucking brother are doing it, and it's going to screw up the market.

Seriously guys, you don't see Pfizer encouraging people to make their alprazolam -- if everyone does it, there isn't going to be money in doing it.
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ow bout you get a real job like everyone else, so us who just want to smoke in peace can do it legally
 
see4

see4

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Arcturon said:
The fact that you will not do the research show me that you have no idea what you are talking about. Photo and lab evidence to prove my point in thousands of cases, and no evidence to prove that it has the opposite effect.

check out hose videos, you'll see a man's skin cancer eradicated, with photos taken through the course of the oil treatment, a man with Parkinson's convulsing so bad that he can't talk or remain in a chair without hitting the floor, and after he hits the joint, he recedes into his chairs with control of his movement and the ability to construct full sentences. The tears in his eyes and the tests done to prove it are evidence enough.
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I hope you are right, and these "studies" are true. I would love to see a natural cure-all. History has shown otherwise.
 
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minnesmoker

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Arcturon said:
The fact that you will not do the research show me that you have no idea what you are talking about. Photo and lab evidence to prove my point in thousands of cases, and no evidence to prove that it has the opposite effect.

check out hose videos, you'll see a man's skin cancer eradicated, with photos taken through the course of the oil treatment, a man with Parkinson's convulsing so bad that he can't talk or remain in a chair without hitting the floor, and after he hits the joint, he recedes into his chairs with control of his movement and the ability to construct full sentences. The tears in his eyes and the tests done to prove it are evidence enough.
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That is called "anecdotal evidence." The claims are called "soft science." There's an actual scientific method. It is applied to research; without that application of the scientific method you get studies that "prove cannabis kills brain cells" (see monkey asphyxia study.)

We are mostly here because we are strong believers in medical Cannabis. What most of us don't want to see is wild across the board generalizations that make us look like crystal squeezers or laying-of-hands spiritual healers... Come with hard evidence, attained through proper experiments utilizing the scientific method. Bonus if they are reputed published papers.
 
see4

see4

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minnesmoker said:
That is called "anecdotal evidence." The claims are called "soft science." There's an actual scientific method. It is applied to research; without that application of the scientific method you get studies that "prove cannabis kills brain cells" (see monkey asphyxia study.)

We are mostly here because we are strong believers in medical Cannabis. What most of us don't want to see is wild across the board generalizations that make us look like crystal squeezers or laying-of-hands spiritual healers... Come with hard evidence, attained through proper experiments utilizing the scientific method. Bonus if they are reputed published papers.
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This. And only this.
 
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tibberous

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The other thing you need to keep in mind with the 'curing cancer' claim is that cancer is far from a death sentence - if you aren't old, and don't have lung cancer, your survival rate is pretty decent.

Want to cure 10,000 people of cancer? 'Treat' 20,000 of them...
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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see4 said:
I hope you are right, and these "studies" are true. I would love to see a natural cure-all. History has shown otherwise.
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Seeing as more than 750,000 people in the US are killed by pharmaceutical drugs, with the number of deaths skyrocketing as the amount of prescriptions increase thanks to doctors prescribing drugs like Prozac, Klonipin, and Warfarin to people with insomnia (Off-label prescriptions).
Every one of the assailants who have been involved the mass shootings lately have been on anti-psychotic and anti-depressive medication.

There are studies that prove that most of the pharmaceutical drugs used today increase rates of cancer and disease, and can have the opposite effect of that proposed by the company selling the drug, and the amount of these studies far outweigh the amount of studies proving the effectiveness or safety of these drugs.

No one has died from cannabis.

Up until about 100 years ago, cannabis was the crop most grown among the entire world. It has been incorporated into our bodies. Look up the Endocannabinoid System. Our bodies have natural cannabinoid receptors, which are, in fact, the most prevalent in the body, that are built to receive a much higher amount of cannabinoids than that which is created in our own bodies. The introduction of the cannabinoids from Cannabis to the body prove to have extremely beneficial and seemingly necessary effects.
 
see4

see4

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Arcturon said:
Seeing as more than 750,000 people in the US are killed by pharmaceutical drugs, with the number of deaths skyrocketing as the amount of prescriptions increase thanks to doctors prescribing drugs like Prozac, Klonipin, and Warfarin to people with insomnia (Off-label prescriptions).
Every one of the assailants who have been involved the mass shootings lately have been on anti-psychotic and anti-depressive medication.

There are studies that prove that most of the pharmaceutical drugs used today increase rates of cancer and disease, and can have the opposite effect of that proposed by the company selling the drug, and the amount of these studies far outweigh the amount of studies proving the effectiveness or safety of these drugs.

No one has died from cannabis.

Up until about 100 years ago, cannabis was the crop most grown among the entire world. It has been incorporated into our bodies. Look up the Endocannabinoid System. Our bodies have natural cannabinoid receptors, which are, in fact, the most prevalent in the body, that are built to receive a much higher amount of cannabinoids than that which is created in our own bodies. The introduction of the cannabinoids from Cannabis to the body prove to have extremely beneficial and seemingly necessary effects.
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I believe the fact that cannabis is not linked to any deaths. I also believe that close to 1 million in the United States alone each year die from pharma drugs. But what I don't believe is that Hash Oil cures cancer, and will cure leukemia in 15 days. Which is what you have claimed.
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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OddBall1st said:
I`m on board with the exception of the addiction part and legalization part.

Mental addition is still addiction.

Just think of all those males spred out, in all those fields or just sporatic places when people disguard their seeds. If people are willing to debate and not fight,..I got arguments about legalization !!
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Mental addiction is a pinprick when compared to physical dependencies like those found in heroin or nicotine addictions.
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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minnesmoker said:
That is called "anecdotal evidence." The claims are called "soft science." There's an actual scientific method. It is applied to research; without that application of the scientific method you get studies that "prove cannabis kills brain cells" (see monkey asphyxia study.)

We are mostly here because we are strong believers in medical Cannabis. What most of us don't want to see is wild across the board generalizations that make us look like crystal squeezers or laying-of-hands spiritual healers... Come with hard evidence, attained through proper experiments utilizing the scientific method. Bonus if they are reputed published papers.
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Check out every link on the list, most of which provide studies that apply scientific method rather than anecdotal evidence. Look at the Granny Storm Crow's list of studies, full of reputable sources. http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.html

Also. tests were done on the men to prove that it was in fact the cannabis and not an odd twist of fate that caused these results. They have been replicated multiple times.
 
see4

see4

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Arcturon said:
Check out every link on the list, most of which provide studies that apply scientific method rather than anecdotal evidence. Look at the Granny Storm Crow's list of studies, full of reputable sources. http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.html

Also. tests were done on the men to prove that it was in fact the cannabis and not an odd twist of fate that caused these results. They have been replicated multiple times.
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If these facts are so true, why are you here on this online forum debating us? Why are you not out starting a company selling Hash Oil, curing cancer, and becoming the richest man on the planet?

Oh, because its bullshit. Maybe?
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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see4 said:
I believe the fact that cannabis is not linked to any deaths. I also believe that close to 1 million in the United States alone each year die from pharma drugs. But what I don't believe is that Hash Oil cures cancer, and will cure leukemia in 15 days. Which is what you have claimed.
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Facts are not meant to be believed, they are meant to be examined and proven, based on experiments with repeatable results. This is what the people who have conducted these studies have set out to do.
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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see4 said:
If these facts are so true, why are you here on this online forum debating us? Why are you not out starting a company selling Hash Oil, curing cancer, and becoming the richest man on the planet?

Oh, because its bullshit. Maybe?
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No man deserves to have to pay for his own life.

Also, Rick Simpson provides all patients who come to him with free Hemp Oil.
 
Arcturon

Arcturon

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Money is to be found in industrial hemp. Textile hemp plastic has a hardness 10x that of steel, and costs less than a third than that of steel production to produce it. Same goes for hemp seed oil, which can be used in place of ethanol.
 
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