EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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Michael Huntherz said:
I'll answer; Given a long enough timeline the banks end up owning literally everything. It is an inevitability, until we change the system we're living under back to the constitutionally-mandated nationalized currency issued by congress. So occasionally they engineer a crisis like our current super-recession to keep everyone on their toes and not thinking about that fundamental fact.

You are victimizing yourself, unless you're already a billionaire @Harrekin - the beliefs you hold will not benefit you the way you think they will. A little socialism is a good thing. You don't understand that because you're afraid. You're afraid you won't have a chance to become one of the mega-rich and look down on the poor with pity and what passes for compassion in our sick society. Real compassion takes risk, self-sacrifice and understanding that you are not a man apart, but a small part of a whole. As soon as a good number of you true believers who unknowingly work for this broken system on behalf of the overlords who benefit from it start to realize you've been taught to be happy under what is nothing short of financial tyranny then we can start to move forward to a better way, until then you're part of the problem. They tell us this is freedom while they rob us blind and keep us bound to our debt until we are dead. Just because you've been told things work a certain way and you've lived under that set of rules your whole life, and so have your parents, and your parents parents does not mean it is the best or only viable set of rules under which to live. If you don't know what's possible how can you make an informed choice? I keep seeing people say "confiscate" or "steal" money from the rich, but that's something fed to you by the banker-media-trolls over and over and over until you believed it. Our system is out of balance, and our taxes our low. We need a bit less military waste, more transparency from the federal govt. (and less surveillance), more social programs and higher taxes. You would benefit as an individual and we would all benefit as a country. Again, there are many examples around the world, especially northern Europe, where this is working. This country used to be great for most of us, now it is only great if you have a 9-figure net worth. Land of the Free and Home of the Brave has never been less true than right now.

P.S. I love when people throw insults like "Mr. Miyagi" and "Captain Genius" - around. It provides proof to me that you're anti-intellectual and probably part of the thug culture, which in turn makes it very easy for me to disregard your opinions. Pro-tip: If you want to be taken seriously don't say shit like that, it makes you look dumb.
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But Obama promised all that, now what?
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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The_Herban_Legend said:
But Obama promised all that, now what?
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I was opposed to Obama and calling him an establishment shill before he even got the nomination. I had read two books about him by then and knew he was a tool of the machine going in. Bernie Sanders is not Barak "Barry Sotero" Obama.

In fact, I shouted down a whole group of campaigners marching and chanting in the streets of Seattle in January 2007 (I think) asking them what they really knew about Obama, and telling them they were victims of a shrewd media campaign. I'm not a party animal, I don't belong to one of our major political parties, which are obviously corrupt. I would never vote for Billary, those two are crooks only to be outdone by the Bush family. In truth, they are pals.

I'm not saying Bernie will fix everything, just that he's more likely to try real hard to do the right thing than any other motherfucker in the race.

Nobody he's worked with in congress thinks he has 'star power', and they all think he's an idealist and they don't much like him because he won't always play ball with the agreed agenda.

He's presently elected as an Independent, for fuck's sake. That's a feat unto itself. The fact he's remained in office for so long in spite of his preferred lack of party affiliation implies to me a lot about the man.

He's on the right (correct) side of history on basically every vote he's ever made and has a long public track record.
 
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The_Herban_Legend

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Michael Huntherz said:
I was opposed to Obama and calling him an establishment shill before he even got the nomination. I had read two books about him by then and knew he was a tool of the machine going in. Bernie Sanders is not Barak "Barry Sotero" Obama.

In fact, I shouted down a whole group of campaigners marching and chanting in the streets of Seattle in January 2007 (I think) asking them what they really knew about Obama, and telling them they were victims of a shrewd media campaign. I'm not a party animal, I don't belong to one of our major political parties, which are obviously corrupt. I would never vote for Billary, those two are crooks only to be outdone by the Bush family. In truth, they are pals.

I'm not saying Bernie will fix everything, just that he's more likely to try real hard to do the right thing than any other motherfucker in the race.

Nobody he's worked with in congress thinks he has 'star power', and they all think he's an idealist and they don't much like him because he won't always play ball with the agreed agenda.

He's presently elected as an Independent, for fuck's sake. That's a feat unto itself. The fact he's remained in office for so long in spite of his preferred lack of party affiliation implies to me a lot about the man.

He's on the right (correct) side of history on basically every vote he's ever made and has a long public track record.
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I voted for Obama in 08. Although he is not quite as bad as Bush, in my opinion, he fucked us royally and sold us out to the insurance companies. I would love to give you a nice rebuttal but I am out the door. You write well and seem like a sensible guy/gal. Obama is the reason I am now registered as an Independent.
 
OddBall1st

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Ole Bernie`s campaign has been disciplined for accessing Hillary`s data. The Bernie guy was fire so we don`t think it was intentional.

This is what you get with Democrats, are you ready for another Democrat ?

Bernie, such a nice candidate.
 
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god1

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Michael Huntherz said:

Rich people don't create jobs.
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This is rich, a "venture capitalist" claiming that rich guys don't start jobs.

Don't be so gullible, it takes investment, equity of some sort, to create a job, period. If that wasn't the case, the "free stuff" guys wouldn't be complaining. They would just create jobs for themselves.

Tax "incentives" are called that for a reason. You should be able to reason from there.

Ask yourself, why doesn't this snake oil guy just give all his money away, and create some jobs anew?

More hokum for the stupid.
 
Michael Huntherz

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god1 said:
This is rich, a "venture capitalist" claiming that rich guys don't start jobs.

Don't be so gullible, it takes investment, equity of some sort, to create a job, period. If that wasn't the case, the "free stuff" guys wouldn't be complaining. They would just create jobs for themselves.

Tax "incentives" are called that for a reason. You should be able to reason from there.

Ask yourself, why doesn't this snake oil guy just give all his money away, and create some jobs anew?

More hokum for the stupid.
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Uncle Ben said:
Figures. He will go down in history as being one the most divisive, worthless Presidents in history.....trumping Carter for that reputation.

An Obama supporter:

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Both of you are spouting non-arguments in the form of ad-hominem attacks and judgments outside of context, or with limited information. Oh, I almost forgot veiled threats of poverty for the masses if we dare elect another lefty. Y'all are largely goofballs.

I am no Obama supporter, as covered, but images like that are not helpful to anyone.

Being against Bernie Sanders and for the repeal of Cannabis prohibition is a special fuckin' flavor of double-think.
 
The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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Uncle Ben said:
Figures. He will go down in history as being one the most divisive, worthless Presidents in history.....trumping Carter for that reputation.

An Obama supporter:

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The alternative was Romney and his wacked out mormon religion hahah, Uh... No thanks! Although Obama says he is a Christian, I highly doubt it as he has been known to blast the "holy bible". Whether he is or isn't at least he is intelligent enough to not use the bible to guide public policy.

 
Uncle Ben

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Michael Huntherz said:
Both of you are spouting non-arguments in the form of ad-hominem attacks and judgments outside of context, or with limited information. Oh, I almost forgot veiled threats of poverty for the masses if we dare elect another lefty. Y'all are largely goofballs.

I am no Obama supporter, as covered, but images like that are not helpful to anyone.
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Well excuse ME!

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Harrekin

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The_Herban_Legend said:
The alternative was Romney and his wacked out mormon religion hahah, Uh... No thanks! Although Obama says he is a Christian, I highly doubt it as he has been known to blast the "holy bible". Whether he is or isn't at least he is intelligent enough to not use the bible to guide public policy.

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The person narrating that video is the most retarded person I've heard today at least.

Jesus was an absolute pacifist...

It surprises me to say it, but Obama was 100% correct in that speech.
 
The_Herban_Legend

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Harrekin said:
The person narrating that video is the most retarded person I've heard today at least.

Jesus was an absolute pacifist...

It surprises me to say it, but Obama was 100% correct in that speech.
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Yea the narrator is an idiot. Just wanted to show my Uncle Ben how Obama feels about the bible.
 
The_Herban_Legend

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schuylaar said:
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Hell, I wanted to deny Obama a second term too but didn't like any of the alternatives, so I didn't vote.
I think you would find it rather difficult to find any Republican that did not want to deny Obama a second term.

Eventually we have to put our big boy pants on and call it like it is. Even if that means the enemy (Repubs) agree with my stance on Obama, that does not mean I agree with their political ideology.
 
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