chimera012
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anyone?should i continue using molasses alone or go back to my 4-8-14 nutrients for now
first grow-bag seed 8 weeks into flower not looking ready?
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Oregon Grower
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Molasses will work fine 4 8 14 seems high in k to me but I grow organic i use molasses though out
Oregon Grower
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Molasses is 1 0 5 I'm pretty sure
popeyesailorman
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That is not an EZ question to answer. I always over feed mine till i see a little nute burn on the very tips of the fan leaves. Then I back off a little. I use coco mostly so they need something till final flush. I start the flush when I can see the trichomes turn mostly cloudy with my jewelers loop. I have never used molasses so I would not give any advice to that.
Olive Drab Green
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Depends on the molasses. Mine has, like, 800mg of K. Some have 300, 500, 1200, etc. And plenty of calcium, iron, and other things.
Olive Drab Green
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This is partially a myth. It depends on genetics. I have the biggest light leak ever with no issue.
Olive Drab Green
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True true.
chimera012
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well im 100% sure i have no light leaks...i wonder would over watering affect bud growth?been feeding daily during flowering...but since i flushed 2 days ago iv noticed the soil is still rather moist
bravedave
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Not True.
bravedave
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By the same token, it has always been my understanding that the CA and K "and other things" in molasses is not in a form that the plant can make use of. Microbes in the dirt like the sugars et al though.
Olive Drab Green
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The microbes eat the molasses and turn it into a form the plant can take up, just like with harder substances you wouldn't think a plant could take up, i.e. Bone, blood, meat, etc.
Douglas.Curtis
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I'll keep posting this until others start posting it first. 
The best way to avoid cannabis that only lasts for 45minutes to an hour is to harvest on time. This is also the way you prevent growing overripe cannabis, which will simply knock you out. Too early gyps you on full THC and other cannabinoid content, the plant is not finished yet. Harvest too late and the THC has already begun to break down, losing potency and picking up CBN which makes you want to sleep.
Pick up a cheap scope, at least 30x-60x magnification.
Pick a spot on a flower itself, not a leaf, and look at a group of 20 trichomes.
Count the number of amber trichomes you see.
1 amber is 5%, 2 amber is 10% and 3 amber is 15%.
Some strains are not finished at 5% amber and are more potent at 10 or 15%. Some strains already start to have a hint of sleepiness from CBN at 15%. Use clones and harvest at 5,10 and 15%. Next time harvest at the percentage you preferred the most. (Make sure you crop enough at each stage to be sure.)
Hope that helps Perfectly ripe cannabis is awesome! 
The best way to avoid cannabis that only lasts for 45minutes to an hour is to harvest on time. This is also the way you prevent growing overripe cannabis, which will simply knock you out. Too early gyps you on full THC and other cannabinoid content, the plant is not finished yet. Harvest too late and the THC has already begun to break down, losing potency and picking up CBN which makes you want to sleep.
Pick up a cheap scope, at least 30x-60x magnification.
Pick a spot on a flower itself, not a leaf, and look at a group of 20 trichomes.
Count the number of amber trichomes you see.
1 amber is 5%, 2 amber is 10% and 3 amber is 15%.
Some strains are not finished at 5% amber and are more potent at 10 or 15%. Some strains already start to have a hint of sleepiness from CBN at 15%. Use clones and harvest at 5,10 and 15%. Next time harvest at the percentage you preferred the most. (Make sure you crop enough at each stage to be sure.)
Hope that helps
Perfectly ripe cannabis is awesome!
Douglas.Curtis
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As for harvesting early for a speedier effect? There are strains with plenty of speedy effect, I would seek those out instead of early harvesting. You really have to grow 2-4 times as much, for the same efficacy time. It's better to just wait an extra week or two for that first blush of amber.
bravedave
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Not sure what you are trying you say. You seemed to first indicate that the plant's need for K can be fulfilled by the K in the molasses. I don't think that is true.
Olive Drab Green
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It can. 800 ish mg per Tbsp. The microbes eat it and shit it out into a complex, organic substance that contains all of the nutrients the molasses had in a form the roots can take up. The decayed organic matter is bacteria shit that's also immediately sourceable plant food (immediate after breakdown).
bravedave
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Think what you will, but it is my understanding that the K needed by the plant is not provided by the molasses in that way. I wish it was. And I don't think the Ca or Fe is either. Please check it out yourself before offering advice on it.
chimera012
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4-8-14 isnt high...its basically the same as 1-2-4. as for my molasses there is NO nitrogen in them.