first grow-bag seed 8 weeks into flower not looking ready?
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growman3666
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If anything that looks like a nitrogen deficiency. I need to read back over this and get all the details to what's going on here straight. Im first going to try to get down to the reveg problem. Then I can start to adress the other problems
Alienwidow
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Still waiting on the facts. And this response is the biggest dodge so far in the thread, just sayin.
ya cant just say youre right to be right. You have to post real facts Dave. Id like to see where someone published is saying that CA and P from molasses is unusable by the plant....
bravedave
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Really kind of pathetic, AW, that Sunshine whistles and you lift your head from his crotch to chase the ball he threw. Run along now and come back when you can provide any proof that I am mistaken.Still waiting on the facts. And this response is the biggest dodge so far in the thread, just sayin.
Until then we will just assume that
Alienwidow believes that molasses is a good source of Potassium and Calcium needed by plants and Dave does not.
Alienwidow
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To the op, looks like you have a few problems. One is the small pot its in. Thatll choke out the plant and yellow leaves. It also makes it hard to feed right. A small root ball is easy to over feed because theres not much besides roots in there to hold some of the food, its all right on roots so its easy to burn if your not giving lots of runoff. Theres also not much plant there so if your feeding at full strength it may be too strong. Another is the light youve been giving it. Ya probably have it a little confused. Next time around put it in a bigger pot, and build a small do it yourself greenhouse for it. Then you can light dep it if you want and itll turn out better since your not moving it around so much. Id just wait it out, give it a couple hard waterings, and then resume feeding lighter and cut down the hours of light. Good luck.
Alienwidow
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Blackstrap molasses is high in calcium, magnesium, iron and potassium. It also contains sulfur and a host of micronutrients. Using molasses as fertilizer provides plants with a quick source of energy and encourages the growth of beneficial microorganisms
-this is the first thing that pops up on google when i type in what nutrients are availible from molasses for plants, copied and pasted. Prove it wrong.
Alienwidow
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Blackstrap molasses is a source of calcium, magnesium, potassium, and iron; one tablespoon provides up to 20% of the USDA daily value of each of those nutrients.
-http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/milk-and-molasses-magic-zbcz1402.aspx
Alienwidow
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Molasses
Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
Energy 1,213 kJ (290 kcal)
Carbohydrates
74.73 g
Sugars 74.72 g
Dietary fiber 0 g
Fat
0.1 g
Protein
0 g
Vitamins
Thiamine (B1)
(4%)
0.041 mg
Riboflavin (B2)
(0%)
0.002 mg
Niacin (B3)
(6%)
0.93 mg
Pantothenic acid (B5)
(16%)
0.804 mg
Vitamin B6
(52%)
0.67 mg
Choline
(3%)
13.3 mg
Minerals
Calcium
(21%)
205 mg
Iron
(36%)
4.72 mg
Magnesium
(68%)
242 mg
Manganese
(73%)
1.53 mg
Phosphorus
(4%)
31 mg
Potassium
(31%)
1464 mg
Sodium
(2%)
37 mg
Zinc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molasses#Blackstrap_molasses
Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
Energy 1,213 kJ (290 kcal)
Carbohydrates
74.73 g
Sugars 74.72 g
Dietary fiber 0 g
Fat
0.1 g
Protein
0 g
Vitamins
Thiamine (B1)
(4%)
0.041 mg
Riboflavin (B2)
(0%)
0.002 mg
Niacin (B3)
(6%)
0.93 mg
Pantothenic acid (B5)
(16%)
0.804 mg
Vitamin B6
(52%)
0.67 mg
Choline
(3%)
13.3 mg
Minerals
Calcium
(21%)
205 mg
Iron
(36%)
4.72 mg
Magnesium
(68%)
242 mg
Manganese
(73%)
1.53 mg
Phosphorus
(4%)
31 mg
Potassium
(31%)
1464 mg
Sodium
(2%)
37 mg
Zinc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molasses#Blackstrap_molasses
Alienwidow
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Interested in giving molasses a try in your garden? Be sure to use organic unsulphered blackstrap molasses, since it contains the highest number of vitamins and minerals like iron, magnesium, copper and calcium.
- http://wholesomesweet.com/organic-molasses-your-gardens-secret-ingredient/
Alienwidow
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There are three grades of molasses, from lighter to darker: mild (a.k.a Barbados), dark, and blackstrap. Blackstrap molasses is preferred for its higher mineral and vitamin content. Blackstrap is high in calcium, magnesium, iron, potassium, and micronutrients.
There are multiple ways to incorporate molasses into your garden. It is often used as part of a regular feeding schedule, in foliar sprays, composts and compost teas, and during soil preparation. Dosage is determined by personal experience: Each garden and plant is different, some may prefer a larger or smaller dosage depending on their environment, health, size, and age/stage. To be safe, using a starting point of 1 tablespoon (15 ml) of molasses per gallon (3.8 liter) of water for feedings is a good rule of thumb. It is recommended to increase molasses dosage as the flower stage progresses, as the plant will require more potassium. Using small dosages will help prevent any unnecessary risks such as stress or nutrient burn, and allow you to correctly determine a favorable future dosage. For use as an insecticidal foliar spray, 1 teaspoon (5ml) per gallon is recommended.*Mix molasses in lukewarm water before adding to reservoir, bucket, or spray bottle to allow it to fully dissolve.
http://oaksterdamuniversity.com/microbes-and-molasses/
Usually the burden of proof falls upon the party making the claim. In the world of logical fallacies claiming to be right because there exists no proof I am wrong is referred to an "argument of ignorance." And if you are wrong, there probably won't be a scholarly article published indicating something is not true.
bravedave
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@Olive Drab Green
Sorry man for the doubt. Looks like you had it pegged. I am sure that like myself you have read 1000 times that you are feeding the soil and not the plant with molasses, but i have read and unfortunately committed it to memory that many of its minerals were in unusable forms (esp. the K). A couple things my personal troll, AW, posted certainly discounts that.
Olive Drab Green
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All good, bro. It's pretty heavily contested, apparently. Had a disagreement with a number of people over it, most of which prefer to use it in AACTs or weren't organic. AACTs are more efficient and quick release, but I still believe it works just diluted with water, as long as there are microbes and myco in the medium.
In organics, you feed the soil. Synths, you force feed the plants salt-bound chelates.
Alienwidow
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Its a learning site dave. If i teach you something correct today, youll teach someone somthing correct tommorow. And if you dont check your own facts and give someone misinformation, and they pass it along, the site will progressively become more stupid. Its all in the name of science dave. I mean, im no rocket surgeon, but i know before i give someone a definitive answer, i try to make sure that i know im right.
bravedave
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Thanks for setting me straight AW, but I did preface my information with "it is my understanding", so i am not sure it can be called "definitive". What is definitive is that you are obviously Sunshine's bitch. That's fine ...I have come to appreciate the little yellow bird. I just won't take it up the wazoo by him like you do.
Alienwidow
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are you pouting right now dave? You were wrong again. Its not the end of the world. Life goes on dave, better luck next time.
Olive Drab Green
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Maybe I just don't know you well, but this is the first I've seen you in an antagonistic mood.
Alienwidow
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ya you must not know me well. I watch dave to see what kind of misinformation hes filling people with after the whole MH is the best for flowering ordeal. I wonder if hes changed that 400w MH bulb hes had in his flower room for three years now and still going strong.
popeyesailorman
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@ chimera012 How is are they doing? I have a Sativa leaning going on 70 day flower and it isn't ready yet.
In Shape Vet
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looks like they are starting to tail out some, but not swollen yet. you might be getting a good bit more frost coming up in the next couple of weeks.