first timer 2x2 tent with autos i need some help

kuzzbro said:

well what u think i should get ??? and do u think the tent is a good size i could fit at least 16 plants yea

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it is possible to achieve the yield with a 600 as you would a 1000. with less heat and less power consumed. when you get the electric bill and wonder why it has doubled you will see. on 18/6 with 2 1000's that is an extra 36 kilo watts, that is what my average bill is. times that by 2 = wtf.

and because i want to start with autos ..if i do want to change later on do the veg and flower stage with normal seeds do i need 2 seperate rooms or i can use my big tent i already have ,or should i get 2 smaller ones?? this is why im getting autos first but just to practice for hen i do big yeilds

kuzzbro said:

and because i want to start with autos ..if i do want to change later on do the veg and flower stage with normal seeds do i need 2 seperate rooms or i can use my big tent i already have ,or should i get 2 smaller ones?? this is why im getting autos first but just to practice for hen i do big yeilds

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with normal photo seeds you would need 2 room yes veg and flower.

600w bulbs are more energy efficient than 1000w bulbs.

meaning u will get about the same lumen on 3x600w that u get from 2x1000.

but if i have 3 600 hps lights wont that cost me more than 2 1000hps lights because there is a extra light. or are the 1000s just to much on the electricity bill???and with my tent size i was thinking i needed at least 2 1000 or 4 600 what u think my tents 2metrers by 2 by 2

in the past i had a 1.5mx1.5mx2.0m tent and i used 600w for veg and 1000w-1600w for bloom and i always had excellent results. imho 3x600w hps or 2x600w hps + 1x600mh will do just fine.
people always wanna put in more lights... to the point that you just stress the plant out.

with 3x600w you would get about 7000 lumens/sq ft or 75000 lumens per m2 or 450w/m2 and thats imo a very good light intesiity wich enables you to grow top quality bud and will do just fine.

2x1000w x 12 h light = 24kwh per day
3x600w x 12 h light = 21.6kwh per day

reason for 3x600w would be its more energy efficient meaning they have about the same lumen output with 200w less energy used. thus lower energy consumption.

how many u think i need for my tent size ??? and for the best yeild?

kuzzbro said:

how many u think i need for my tent size ??? and for the best yeild?

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its preatty hard thigh to anwser. try thinking of it as minimum/maximum requirements. some people say that you cant put too much lights... i disagree, imho 400-600w/m2 depending on the strain you are growing gives optimal growth. also after you hit about 140 000 lux you have the same light intensity as above the atmosphere lol. at about 90 000 lux its not very good at all for the plant. intensities at this level or greater puts plants at risk of "solarization," whereby photosynthesis is retarded. This can happen at noon on a clear Tropical summer day, especially at high altitudes.
read this http://www.growmedical420.com/894/how-many-lumens-or-watts-per-square-foot-of-light-do-i-need/
then, read this http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/lighting_guide.php

but for any auto grown if you are looking for a good yield, its more about strain picking than light requirements. also if you want quantity over speed auto's really isnt the way to go. autos is for getting what you want faster, but imo who always grow some autos in my one and only growroom when i have veg-phase autos are good for getting what you want in half the time in exchange for more energy used, weeker potency and about 30-70% the yield depending on strain and environment during its lifespawn.

You want to aim for 25 degrees celsus that is were optimal growth is said to occur.

also, try finding a growguide that looks good, thats always a good idea. getting a book is always nice. there are several good ones

what are the books

anything by
jorge cervantes
ed rosenthal
Dj short
Soma

just to say a few.

600 is a much better option. they have the highest lumen and PAR per watt. 1000 is fine if you have the set up already, but 600 are definately the way to go you will save money over time

I like 600s (just a shame I haven't anywhere to run mine at the moment ).
The reason I mentioned 4x600 was even light-coverage. I can't see how you would achieve an even footprint with 3 lights in a square tent.
Personally, I would be thinking of a 1x1 tent with a 250MH for veg and a 2x1 tent with 2 600HPS for flower. Do a scrog and use hydro.
It sounds like you have a decent amount of cash to start. It's a good thing. In this, more than probably any other hobby, buy wisely, buy quality, buy once. Especially with ventilation.
If it were me, I would buy a 1x1 now with a 250MH, 6"RVK fan, hydro kit and start vegging 4 fem seeds.
If all goes well, buy a 600hps and put that in there.
If all goes very well and you decide to do this on the larger scale, buy 2 600hps, an extra hydro table and the 1x2 tent and a 6" or 8" fan (you can now swap out the 6" you bought earlier as needed). Learn to clone.
If all goes crap, and you decide it's not the hobby for you, at least you haven't wasted too much money.

thanks cues..for the info,and yea i am trying to save as much as possible im getting the cash in about 1 week il have 800 to spend,and my friend has a 1x1 tent and i thought it was wasy too small to make some profit out of it ,its only personal use that small.but a 2x2 is pretty big i no thats why i want to buy all of this once and once only i cant afford to fuk this upp..and i guess i want at least 8 plants growing so what size tent u think 1x4 is the size inbetween 2x2 and 1x1 ????

1x2 for flower. 1 metre by 2 metres. Actually I would go for 4 foot (1.2m) by 8 foot (2.4m). They are standard sizes.
4x4 foot for veg.
800 is tight. You have to bear in mind everything. rH, temp and pH meters, contactors, timers, ballasts, reflectors, pH down, Hydroton, root-riot cubes, extension leads, nutrients, pH down etc. It soon adds up.
Personally, I would do as suggested above and start off small but properly in a single tent, then use the money saved to expand.