Free CO2 with Living Soil

Rrog said:

I stopped by to say I think this is like trying to invent perpetual motion machines. They seem plausible until we sober up and do the math. Then we find we've wasted precious time and the whole thing is an impossiblity

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Really? It is soil science not magic or trickery.

You call it that, but in reality it's wishful thinking and splicing science-sounding words together.

Honestly I hoped for something with this site.....

Rrog said:

You call it that, but in reality it's wishful thinking and splicing science-sounding words together.

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Welcome to Costco. I love you.

"Soil respiration is a measure of carbon dioxide (CO2) released from the soil from decomposition of soil organic matter (SOM) by soil microbes and respiration from plant roots and soil fauna. It is an important indicator of soil health because it indicates the level of microbial activity, SOM content and its decomposition. In the short term high soil respiration rates are not always better; it may indicate an unstable system and loss of soil organic matter (SOM) because of excessive tillage, or other factors degrading soil health. It can be measured by simple methods or more sophisticated laboratory methods. The amount of soil respiration is an indicator of nutrients contained in organic matter being converted to forms available to crops (e.g., phosphate as PO4, nitrate-nitrogen as NO3, and sulfate as SO4)".

https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/nrcs142p2_053267.pdf

Lol.

A perpetual motion machine can go for a while on its own, too.

There's not that much decomposition happening in finished soil. It SHOULD be completed humus, meaning there ain't no mo decomposition.

Sorry, but the soil in your grow room will never produce enough CO2 to give a shit about. Technically there may be CO2 produces, but from a practical standpoint there's no usable CO2.

Sorry. This is another non-science thread

So how is my sealed room able to achieve 1432 ppm last night without any gas? Plenty of assholes like you in this world pal!!!! Fucking know it all don't you?. Go measure dicks with somebody else asshole. I don't give a fuck what you think nor the size of your pecker.

You sounds like such a trained scientist. lol. what a tool... Give him the Google and look what Johnnie came up with.

I would suspect stupidity is to blame for your readings.

One thing is for sure, I couldn't muster any more interest in this silly thread if I tried. You might hit a botany or chemistry class to get your head right.

OK, I'm on to something interesting while I unsubscribe here.

Good riddance troll. Way to show the world your 112 IQ......Smart enough to get by but not quite there enough to grasp reason.

You do realize you are clueless right? Or is self worth need a few more points?

Decomposition doesn't stop when you are dealing with peat, rice hulls and coco for years.....but don't look back that swinging door might hit ya.

I hope the enlightened dude can see the PPM reading....That fucking regulator keeps getting in the way......Never been a fan of daylight savings time.

Aired it out for a few. My temps dropped and will about an hour+ to climb back.

Man I said it was free not fast....Go grab some MckyDs or something and smoke a bowl. Let me get this reg back in here so Siddhartha doesn't blow his top.

You get the point! No magic.....Just Soil Respiration with healthy soil.

"The duration of the nitrate depression period during immobilization depends on environmental factors such as moisture and temperature and the carbon-to-nitrogen (C:N) ratio of the residue. Soil organic matter contains an average of about 50 percent carbon and 5 percent nitrogen. This ratio (10:1) is relatively constant for organic matter. The C:N ratio of plant residue ranges from 10:1 for young leguminous plant tissue to as high as 200:1 for straw of some grains. Plant tissues low in nitrogen generally are more resistant to decomposition and require a longer time before the nitrogen is available to plants.

When a plant residue with a wide C:N ratio is incorporated into the soil, microbial decomposition starts. Microorganism populations increase greatly, evidenced by increased release of CO2 leaving the soil through respiration. The microorganisms take nitrogen from the soil for proteins. Consequently, for a time the concentration of inorganic nitrogen in the soil declines, and may be deficient for plant growth. As residue decomposes, the C:N ratio narrows. At a ratio of approximately 17:1, nitrogen becomes available for plant use. Decomposition continues until the ratio is approximately 11:1 or 10:1."

http://passel.unl.edu/pages/informationmodule.php?idinformationmodule=1130447042&topicorder=2&maxto=8

Again. Im not selling shit except maybe a regulator and a 40 lb tank.


17 gallons Coco coir
5 gallons Earth Worm Castings
5 gallons sphagnum peat moss
5 gallons rice hulls
3 cups gypsum
2 Cups Menafee Humates
3 cups crab meal
3 cups kelp meal
3 cup soybean meal
3 cups bone char (NOT MEAL)
1 ½ cups dolomitic lime
2 cups food grade Diatomaceous Earth
2 cups pine wood shavings

forest microbes.

Regular fermented Fish, EM-1, humic and fulvics, liquid kelp, molasses


Foliar Water soluble calcium/phos before flip at flower sites until week 1-2 of flower,

Sea-90 was used in soil but never flushed prior to test which gave it a ridiculous sodium reading.
Flower. Water molasses.

"Peatlands are historic sinks of carbon, removing CO2 from the atmosphere and storing it in recalcitrant forms of carbon where acidic and water logged conditions prevent decomposition. Peatland environments are the UK’s largest store of carbon. The carbon stored in UK peatlands is equivalent to 3 years of total UK carbon emissions."

https://www.edgehill.ac.uk/geography/research/environmental-processes-change-group-epc/peatlands-the-carbon-cycle-and-climatic-change/

Yeah, I still think you're onto something significant here. How big are your pots and plants?

Plants a tiny, just went in a few days ago.

10 25-30 gal bags are in + a few 5 gallon bags

200 gallons I would assume because only 4 bags a filled
Lights are back on so the ppm wont climb with 85+ temps without watering.

I know the microbes in EWCs are enough to spark the herd. If someones wants to experiment, try adding some 5 gals of peat, a cup or three of soybean meal(or another N source) and 5 gals of EWCs with some water and 75-80 degree temp and see what you get. I would be willing to bet at least my CO2 tubing, that you will see what I see what I am.
I haven't done this yet by the way but I tried EWCs and Peat before to no avail.......I was missing the N source.

NaturalFarmer said:

Plants a tiny, just went in a few days ago.

10 25-30 gal bags are in + a few 5 gallon bags

200 gallons I would assume because only 4 bags a filled View attachment 3827830
Lights are back on so the ppm wont climb with 85+ temps without watering.
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Fascinating stuff! Is this the soil you made and composted yourself?

Have you been able to watch and see how long the co2 production continues?

Yeah I have been experimenting with this for about 4 or months now. All raw ingredients if you will. Peat bale from the depot. Fedco for most of the rest. My own EWCs and store bought.

This soil was made 4 months ago give or take. 3500ppm-2000ppm first month and ammonia smell from the N breaking down (No bueno for growing...dont even have it in the room. will stunt). 1800-1200ppm month 2and 3. Started dropping in flower on last grow and was 1000-800 ppm towards the end.

Reactivated this soil with EM-1 and forest microbes and numbers are back to 1500-900ppm with no signs of dropping unless media is drying up.