"Go home Nazis"

vostok

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Protesters chanting "Go home Nazis" have disrupted a white nationalist's speech at the University of Florida.


Richard Spencer's address in Gainesville prompted Florida's governor to declare a state of emergency.

Outside the event, police officers stood guard as hundreds of demonstrators shouted: "Go home, Spencer!"

His speech comes two months after a far-right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, left a woman dead.

Several dozen supporters of Mr Spencer in the campus auditorium were overwhelmingly outnumbered by protesters who shouted down the speaker.

"I'm not going home, I will stand here all day if I have to," Mr Spencer said, calling the crowd a mob of "shrieking and grunting morons".

Audience members continued to heckle him, chanting "Nazis are not welcome here" and "Let's go, Gators!" - a reference to the college mascot.

The university said it did not want to let "vile" Mr Spencer speak, but was obligated under law to do so.

Spencer taunts crowd - Nada Tawfik, BBC News, Gainesville, Florida
The university was prepared for the worst. Roadblocks and barricades were set up to control the crowds. And helicopters and drones circled, while snipers stood atop buildings surrounding the Phillips Center for Performing Arts.

Most students avoided this side of campus altogether, but a sizable number did still turn out, either to attend the speech or decry it. Spencer's national policy institute tried to screen those seeking tickets, but once the so-called leader of the alt right started speaking, it was clear they had failed.

Richard Spencer began his remarks declaring everyone had the right to free speech, ideology aside. But immediately, it was clear that the majority of the crowd was determined to drown him out with their own message. They chanted "go home" and "Nazis are not welcome here".

Dozens held raised fists in a sign of resistance, others chose the middle finger to express themselves. Mr Spencer taunted the crowd in return, calling them shrieking and grunting morons, a mob whose action he said was the best recruiting tool for his group.

Police began dressing in riot gear as the emotions ran high but Mr Spencer left the stage once his allotted time ran out. And both sides have remained for the most part peaceful.

Richard Spencer denied he is a white supremacist during a press conference before his speech

Before Thursday's speech at the college performing arts center, Mr Spencer addressed media to thank university president Kent Fuchs for allowing him to speak, according to the Miami Herald.

The newspaper also reported that two Democratic state legislators filed bills on Thursday to remove all remaining Confederate monuments from the state's public spaces.

Mr Fuchs tweeted: "I don't stand behind racist Richard Spencer".

According to the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish anti-bigotry group, flash mobs are being encouraged by the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, at minority and Jewish institutions during the speech.

The college said it would have to spend more than $500,000 (£380,000) on security while hundreds of state and local police were deployed to campus.

Mr Spencer's organisation, the National Policy Institute, is paying $10,000 to rent the facility.

Protesters disrupted the event, raising their fists and shouting as Mr Spencer spoke


Hundreds of protesters gathered outside, some of whom shouted: "We don't want your Nazi hate"

Protesters unfurled a sign on campus proclaiming "Love, not hate" and drew chalk designs on a pavement promoting inclusiveness and diversity.

Meanwhile, former President George W Bush decried intolerance while addressing an event in New York.

"Bigotry or white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed," he said.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors US hate groups, said Mr Spencer is "a radical white separatist whose goal is the establishment of a white ethno-state in North America".

Mr Spencer has described this week's emergency declaration by the state governor as "flattering" but "most likely overkill".

Mr Spencer, a figurehead of the racist alt-right movement, rose to prominence when he led chants of "Heil Trump" to a Nazi-saluting group in Washington after the president's election victory.

He also helped to organise August's rally in Charlottesville, where he was the ringmaster of a large group of far-right activists chanting "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil" (a Nazi slogan)

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41683713)
 

blu3bird

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Fuck, there's like 20 different articles about this guy on Yahoo, I'm sick of hearing about this knucklehead. He is getting exactly what he wants, that's national coverage.

NO ONE gives a flying fuck what Richard Spencer has to say, the media gives this asshole all this coverage because of the protesters. He would be better off giving a speech at a trailer park, instead he goes to a college campus, LOL. How many students do you think are going to miss class and listen to him?

Most people would never even heard of this fool if the media didn't give him any coverage
 

abandonconflict

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I was never a fan of Dubya. In fact I considered him to be easily the worst president in history as did many other people in the country. He lied to get the US into war, into economic ruin and accomplished nothing of virtue. In this speech, I agree with much of what he says. Even the old-right is starting to turn against the alt-right.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/19/politics/bush-freedom-event/index.html
 

ttystikk

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Fuck, there's like 20 different articles about this guy on Yahoo, I'm sick of hearing about this knucklehead. He is getting exactly what he wants, that's national coverage.

NO ONE gives a flying fuck what Richard Spencer has to say, the media gives this asshole all this coverage because of the protesters. He would be better off giving a speech at a trailer park, instead he goes to a college campus, LOL. How many students do you think are going to miss class and listen to him?

Most people would never even heard of this fool if the media didn't give him any coverage
He's getting more coverage than Bernie Sanders did during the election.

There's no way that's a coincidence.

What are we being distracted from?
 

Jaybodankly

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It is easy to label the nazis and write them off as shitbirds. It is the rise of Christian neo-facism.
Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy (wikipedia).
This is also the Russian linkup. Where they find common ground. White Conservative Christian men banding together against the impure minorities and heathens.
 

Fogdog

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Fuck, there's like 20 different articles about this guy on Yahoo, I'm sick of hearing about this knucklehead. He is getting exactly what he wants, that's national coverage.

NO ONE gives a flying fuck what Richard Spencer has to say, the media gives this asshole all this coverage because of the protesters. He would be better off giving a speech at a trailer park, instead he goes to a college campus, LOL. How many students do you think are going to miss class and listen to him?

Most people would never even heard of this fool if the media didn't give him any coverage
The media is influenced by what people read. People oppose Nazis because they would take rights away.

I can't say that opposing Nazis is a bad thing. Ever. The media gives it attention because it sells..The two actions intersect but have little to do with each other.
 

SneekyNinja

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Fuck, there's like 20 different articles about this guy on Yahoo, I'm sick of hearing about this knucklehead. He is getting exactly what he wants, that's national coverage.

NO ONE gives a flying fuck what Richard Spencer has to say, the media gives this asshole all this coverage because of the protesters. He would be better off giving a speech at a trailer park, instead he goes to a college campus, LOL. How many students do you think are going to miss class and listen to him?

Most people would never even heard of this fool if the media didn't give him any coverage
This is what gave Trump the White House, so congrats.

He's getting more coverage than Bernie Sanders did during the election.

There's no way that's a coincidence.

What are we being distracted from?
Demonstrably false, Sanders got more positive air time than anyone else.
 

ttystikk

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It is easy to label the nazis and write them off as shitbirds. It is the rise of Christian neo-facism.
Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy (wikipedia).
This is also the Russian linkup. Where they find common ground. White Conservative Christian men banding together against the impure minorities and heathens.
Nazis are purely second class citizens.

It serves the establishment's purpose to have these people hating on other races and religions because it keeps them distracted from what the rich and powerful are doing to them.

This is another reason why the supremacist nationalist crowd generally skews towards lower intelligence; the smart ones figure out they're being fooled and leave.
 

Fogdog

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Fuck, there's like 20 different articles about this guy on Yahoo, I'm sick of hearing about this knucklehead. He is getting exactly what he wants, that's national coverage.

NO ONE gives a flying fuck what Richard Spencer has to say, the media gives this asshole all this coverage because of the protesters. He would be better off giving a speech at a trailer park, instead he goes to a college campus, LOL. How many students do you think are going to miss class and listen to him?

Most people would never even heard of this fool if the media didn't give him any coverage
About half of all white people in the US are either full blown racists or don't recognize that racism affects minority groups in this country. That is to say, are they are racist but don't see it in themselves. Damn right Spencer is getting headlines. He's saying exactly what those people like to hear.

This idea that he only gets coverage when protesters show up is bunk. If protesters don't show up we'd be treated to images of people parading the Nazi flag without any sign that this country objects to it. I don't want Black, Hispanic and Muslim people, especially their children, to feel they are alone and without support from the white community. White people, along with Black, Hispanic and Muslim people HAVE to show up and represent disgust at these events.

Do people think the first amendment was written to protect those who are advocating the official second class status of others? That's not what this country stands for. It did once but not now. The legal construct of protecting speech of people who aren't expressing a grievance but expressing the desire to suppress others is as old and vile as the idea of slavery. I realize our justice system is as stuck in the past as the antebellum courts were. This can change. As the US changed the court's support of slavery in 1864, we can change the court's support for racist speech. Until we change the way courts view the speech of racism, we must rely upon civilian counter-protesters to shut those fuckers down.

I'll show up again in Portland to shut those fuckers down if they come here. The media will love it but that's not my purpose.
 
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