"Go home Nazis"

blu3bird

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@Fogdog I completely agree with you man, there is no room for racism in this world and no one should feel intimidated by these clowns. I just feel like the media gets off on giving this guy coverage, as bad as it is. I almost feel like the media is making Richard Spencer a martyr, or at least trying really hard to. I don't have a problem with protesters, it's more of the media I have an issue with.

Trust me, I stick up for and support minorities. I'm in an interracial relationship, I've had to fight with ignorant racist fools more than once. I've kicked ass and had my ass kicked, I'll take the good with the bad any day to stand up to a racist.

I always appreciate your point of view Fogdog, you're a smart and passionate man. I almost always learn something from your posts.
 

Jaybodankly

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You want to be a racist. To me that is very un-American.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

You want to go against the opening statement of Declaration of Independence on which the rest is based. I got to question your citizenship.
 

Fogdog

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@Fogdog I completely agree with you man, there is no room for racism in this world and no one should feel intimidated by these clowns. I just feel like the media gets off on giving this guy coverage, as bad as it is. I almost feel like the media is making Richard Spencer a martyr, or at least trying really hard to. I don't have a problem with protesters, it's more of the media I have an issue with.

Trust me, I stick up for and support minorities. I'm in an interracial relationship, I've had to fight with ignorant racist fools more than once. I've kicked ass and had my ass kicked, I'll take the good with the bad any day to stand up to a racist.

I always appreciate your point of view Fogdog, you're a smart and passionate man. I almost always learn something from your posts.
Thanks for the kind words. I was using your post as a sounding board and didn't mean that you were like some of the others on this site who would shut down debate about racial politics in some weird hope that racism would just go away. I was probably most influenced by an NPR story where a public official was asking protesters to stay away. He would. Spencer spent $10k to rent the hall and Florida government agencies spent a half million on security. This is a bad deal for everybody. But as you say, we have to stick together on this. I totally agree.
 

Fogdog

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You want to be a racist. To me that is very un-American.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

You want to go against the opening statement of Declaration of Independence on which the rest is based. I got to question your citizenship.
Wasn't the US founded with racism embedded in it's economy? It still is too. Our justice system, our business practices, where people live are all influenced by racism. Like you, I wish it wasn't so. There are some who think that racism is very American.
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Fogdog

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Protesters chanting "Go home Nazis" have disrupted a white nationalist's speech at the University of Florida.


Richard Spencer's address in Gainesville prompted Florida's governor to declare a state of emergency.

Outside the event, police officers stood guard as hundreds of demonstrators shouted: "Go home, Spencer!"

His speech comes two months after a far-right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, left a woman dead.

Several dozen supporters of Mr Spencer in the campus auditorium were overwhelmingly outnumbered by protesters who shouted down the speaker.

"I'm not going home, I will stand here all day if I have to," Mr Spencer said, calling the crowd a mob of "shrieking and grunting morons".

Audience members continued to heckle him, chanting "Nazis are not welcome here" and "Let's go, Gators!" - a reference to the college mascot.

The university said it did not want to let "vile" Mr Spencer speak, but was obligated under law to do so.

Spencer taunts crowd - Nada Tawfik, BBC News, Gainesville, Florida
The university was prepared for the worst. Roadblocks and barricades were set up to control the crowds. And helicopters and drones circled, while snipers stood atop buildings surrounding the Phillips Center for Performing Arts.

Most students avoided this side of campus altogether, but a sizable number did still turn out, either to attend the speech or decry it. Spencer's national policy institute tried to screen those seeking tickets, but once the so-called leader of the alt right started speaking, it was clear they had failed.

Richard Spencer began his remarks declaring everyone had the right to free speech, ideology aside. But immediately, it was clear that the majority of the crowd was determined to drown him out with their own message. They chanted "go home" and "Nazis are not welcome here".

Dozens held raised fists in a sign of resistance, others chose the middle finger to express themselves. Mr Spencer taunted the crowd in return, calling them shrieking and grunting morons, a mob whose action he said was the best recruiting tool for his group.

Police began dressing in riot gear as the emotions ran high but Mr Spencer left the stage once his allotted time ran out. And both sides have remained for the most part peaceful.

Richard Spencer denied he is a white supremacist during a press conference before his speech

Before Thursday's speech at the college performing arts center, Mr Spencer addressed media to thank university president Kent Fuchs for allowing him to speak, according to the Miami Herald.

The newspaper also reported that two Democratic state legislators filed bills on Thursday to remove all remaining Confederate monuments from the state's public spaces.

Mr Fuchs tweeted: "I don't stand behind racist Richard Spencer".

According to the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish anti-bigotry group, flash mobs are being encouraged by the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, at minority and Jewish institutions during the speech.

The college said it would have to spend more than $500,000 (£380,000) on security while hundreds of state and local police were deployed to campus.

Mr Spencer's organisation, the National Policy Institute, is paying $10,000 to rent the facility.

Protesters disrupted the event, raising their fists and shouting as Mr Spencer spoke


Hundreds of protesters gathered outside, some of whom shouted: "We don't want your Nazi hate"

Protesters unfurled a sign on campus proclaiming "Love, not hate" and drew chalk designs on a pavement promoting inclusiveness and diversity.

Meanwhile, former President George W Bush decried intolerance while addressing an event in New York.

"Bigotry or white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed," he said.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors US hate groups, said Mr Spencer is "a radical white separatist whose goal is the establishment of a white ethno-state in North America".

Mr Spencer has described this week's emergency declaration by the state governor as "flattering" but "most likely overkill".

Mr Spencer, a figurehead of the racist alt-right movement, rose to prominence when he led chants of "Heil Trump" to a Nazi-saluting group in Washington after the president's election victory.

He also helped to organise August's rally in Charlottesville, where he was the ringmaster of a large group of far-right activists chanting "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil" (a Nazi slogan)

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41683713)
Me love this picture. Me happy looking at it. Me want this be protected speech.
 

vostok

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It is easy to label the nazis and write them off as shitbirds. It is the rise of Christian neo-facism.
Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy (wikipedia).
This is also the Russian linkup. Where they find common ground. White Conservative Christian men banding together against the impure minorities and heathens.
Da alot of this shit is going down back east too

the new revival of the Coptic? church and its current effect on society

with 'our' putin at the top pulling dumps strings
Putin weighs in on Trump's performance as US president
 

Jaybodankly

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@ fogdog Wasn't the US founded with racism embedded in it's economy?

It was original about producing the hip drugs of their time rum and tobacco. The main reason for the colonies existence. Slaves were added as a workforce. We got rid of slavery by destroying cities, killing men, women, children and solders till they surrendered. Any fucktard claiming that slavery is an American institution is a Confederate sympathizer and should be dealt with.
 

Fogdog

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@ fogdog Wasn't the US founded with racism embedded in it's economy?

It was original about producing the hip drugs of their time rum and tobacco. The main reason for the colonies existence. Slaves were added as a workforce. We got rid of slavery by destroying cities, killing men, women, children and solders till they surrendered. Any fucktard claiming that slavery is an American institution is a Confederate sympathizer and should be dealt with.
There is this troublesome bit about another hundred years of Jim Crow, segregation and restrictions placed on travel for black people that conflicts with this idea that racism and economic affects on both sides of the race line ended in 1864.

Also ICE agents breaking Hispanic families.
Also issues surrounding Black Lives Matter
Also this:


Also "very fine people" being used to describe Nazis by the white supremacist president.

Are you really saying that racism ended in 1864 or that racism has nothing to do with our economy today?
 

zeddd

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Racism is embedded into the structure of western society, fools like schu ( don't call your kids an African name cos they won't make CEO ) or tty don't talk about racism and it will go away (dumb fuking white boi), epitomise structural racism
 
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