Government claims it owns children, threatens 2nd mom with jail

curious2garden

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Ok , for an update and correction of my post. It was not a mrsa vaccine but an MMRV vaccine and the problem was that they didn't have on file where he had been immunized so the physician decided he needed it. So he had the vaccine twice and this is what caused the reaction.
They also had a grandson that had a MMRV vaccine that he had an adverse reaction too.
Thank you for the clarification. Yes, there are allergic reactions to the proteins in vaccines, just as people can have life threatening reactions to certain foods et cetera. These reactions are extremely rare but they can cause morbidity and mortality. As for blaming the physician, the patient was an adult and it is his job to know or have a copy of his own vaccine record. Seriously people know more about their car's maintenance record than their own medical history o_O I do not understand that.

The reason a second dose was the problem was because the first dose sensitized his immune system, therefore he reacted to the second. Boosters are usually given far enough apart to ameliorate that possibility. That is often what you see in allergic and anaphylactic reactions. His grandson has a legitimate reason not to take the vaccine. Which makes it far more important there is herd immunity.

People will react and die from vaccines. However the loss compared to the benefit is so low as to be negligible especially if you have seen what havoc these communicable diseases wreak when unchecked.

Life is a dangerous proposition and none of us get out of it alive. Everyone get your vaccinations and carry an epinephrine pen.
 

whitebb2727

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Thank you for the clarification. Yes, there are allergic reactions to the proteins in vaccines, just as people can have life threatening reactions to certain foods et cetera. These reactions are extremely rare but they can cause morbidity and mortality. As for blaming the physician, the patient was an adult and it is his job to know or have a copy of his own vaccine record. Seriously people know more about their car's maintenance record than their own medical history o_O I do not understand that.

The reason a second dose was the problem was because the first dose sensitized his immune system, therefore he reacted to the second. Boosters are usually given far enough apart to ameliorate that possibility. That is often what you see in allergic and anaphylactic reactions. His grandson has a legitimate reason not to take the vaccine. Which makes it far more important there is herd immunity.

People will react and die from vaccines. However the loss compared to the benefit is so low as to be negligible especially if you have seen what havoc these communicable diseases wreak when unchecked.

Life is a dangerous proposition and none of us get out of it alive. Everyone get your vaccinations and carry an epinephrine pen.
In the case I'm talking about we had the shot record with us. Went through what shots were to be given.

I don't know how the mistake was made. I was told on the next visit with another kid. Shit happens. Drs kill people every day. So do pharmacist and other medical professionals. They are human. Mistakes happens.
 

curious2garden

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In the case I'm talking about we had the shot record with us. Went through what shots were to be given.

I don't know how the mistake was made. I was told on the next visit with another kid. Shit happens. Drs kill people every day. So do pharmacist and other medical professionals. They are human. Mistakes happens.
I was replying to jarvild. Every human makes mistakes. If a healthcare professional makes enough of them they lose their license to practice. I would suggest reporting the nurse to her licensing board for the medication error.
 

UncleBuck

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tangerinegreen555

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https://www.google.com/search?q=doctors+3rd+leading+cause+of+death&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

Just FYI. I have good reason to support doctors. More than a few in my family.

I also have reason to fear them. Their advice and procedures have made my permanent illness much worse.

But after 20 years of offering no relief they want to do more tests.
You don't like doctors?

Stop going to them. Good luck the next time you get sick. Maybe slice an artery and bleed the bad stuff out like they did 300 years ago.
 

whitebb2727

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I was replying to jarvild. Every human makes mistakes. If a healthcare professional makes enough of them they lose their license to practice. I would suggest reporting the nurse to her licensing board for the medication error.
Yea. I decided to reply for some reason. Stoned rambling I guess.

It happened. Nothing can change it. She is a good person. Honest mistake. No reason to be vindictive over it.
 

curious2garden

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Yea. I decided to reply for some reason. Stoned rambling I guess.

It happened. Nothing can change it. She is a good person. Honest mistake. No reason to be vindictive over it.
Reporting is not vindictive. It's important for statistical reasons. Really nice people can be shitty practitioners. A mistake won't hurt her but a trend or pattern of mistakes can seriously injure people. All these mistakes should be reported so the statistically poor practitioners can be educated or removed from the possibility of injuring people. Reporting is the humane and responsible thing to do, no malice involved.
 

whitebb2727

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Reporting is not vindictive. It's important for statistical reasons. Really nice people can be shitty practitioners. A mistake won't hurt her but a trend or pattern of mistakes can seriously injure people. All these mistakes should be reported so the statistically poor practitioners can be educated or removed from the possibility of injuring people. Reporting is the humane and responsible thing to do, no malice involved.
Makes sense.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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have you considered maybe you're just infirm and not meant to live?

Yes. My older to be sister was c-sectioned still born and younger brother also has numerous health issues from birth.

The woman who is responsible for all this survived a surely deadly lymphoma. And is now a case study.
 

curious2garden

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Yes. My older to be sister was c-sectioned still born and younger brother also has numerous health issues from birth.

The woman who is responsible for all this survived a surely deadly lymphoma. And is now a case study.
I didn't say I didn't need them. But I have stopped going to them for regular treatment.

I am off most of their meds now.
You seem to have issues with attribution. Would you like to try this again using english?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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My only complaint about doctors is that they don't know now what they'll know in 2037.



My biggest one is few took the time to read or even make sure they had my records. I have a lot of lost records from before the computer records had been established. And for some reason after.

Despite my continuous phone calls and visits and even paying copy fees.

I am now in the process of trying to gather them from 3 states over 17 years.
 
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