psychadelibud
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I will be happy to see that Snake Oil ran Typo. I am running it next round. Have not seen any one else on the forums run it. But I bet it is fire.
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psychadelibud
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When I grow outdoors, I have a butter bowl full of bag seed. I take about 3 or 400 sometimes more or sometimes less... Fill my nursery trays up with promix and soak all those bag seed over night.
I do this in August, around the first week of the month and again in the middle of the month. By September the choppers have slowed down flying and there is less heat in the sky.
I call this my "bumper crops"... I will take a grubbing hoe and dig out a few trenches about a foot deep and about 3 feet wide and up to 20 feet in length. I then plant all of the seedlings, about 50 per patch and throw down some osmocote bloom controlled release fertilizer and plant them in a pattern. As they grow taller I tie each side over to spread open the canopy, that way allowing for what females I have to branch out more and to allow more airflow and sunlight into the plants.
This is pretty much same as 12/12 from seed as they immediately start flowering at around day 30 to 40. I usually end up with about 40% females and 60% males give or take.
I average around 1 to 2 ounces per plant and have been doing this for years. So lets say I have 10 trenches with 25 females after chopping down the males. That is 25 to 50 ounces per trench which really adds up to when everything is said and done and they don't get over 3 feet tall on average.
I do this just because it is very low maintenance and I don't have to water and only feed once. It comes with a stealth package as well and you get solid buds about a foot to foot and a half long with some nice 8th or quarter bag sized buds on the side branching as well. This method a long with my other large guerilla plants really helps me out every year. It really really adds up in the end and manicuring is a piece of cake.
The only problem with this straight to flower method is that you won't get much weight compared to even a 2 week veg time if you wanted to give it a week or two at least would up your yield an extra ounce or so. But its fast and it works great. Just don't be expecting lots of weight unless you have a separate veg room and can kinda sea of green it.
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psychadelibud
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Oh and plus the seeds are free and pretty much unlimited. I have found some killer plants come out of those bag seed I have and get great germination rates on them as well.
All my clients, friends, etc give me tons of seeds and when me and my buddy was picking up brick weed back in the day we would get tons of them and tumble all of those buds and sift out the seed.
I also ever now and again, plant a patch in a spot I have located on the other side of my county with a good size plot of reg seed and just let them do their thing and leave the males. I get unlimited amounts of seed this way and even though I can't really tell what pollinated what, it gives me good seed to run in these "bumper crops" I explained outdoors every year.
All my clients, friends, etc give me tons of seeds and when me and my buddy was picking up brick weed back in the day we would get tons of them and tumble all of those buds and sift out the seed.
I also ever now and again, plant a patch in a spot I have located on the other side of my county with a good size plot of reg seed and just let them do their thing and leave the males. I get unlimited amounts of seed this way and even though I can't really tell what pollinated what, it gives me good seed to run in these "bumper crops" I explained outdoors every year.
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Bakersfield
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I figure my sq ft yield should be about on par with my veg crops with over 1 plant per sq ft.
I've got some others by Inkognyto, Red Eyed, Brisco County and some personal chucks @ one month into this no veg schedule, that will probably yield over 1.5 ounce each once finished.
I should definitely get over 2 and maybe 2.5 lb per 1000 watt Double Ended HPS with this method.
The Lucky 7's and Jelly Pies have already reached 2 - 3 feet in 2 and 1/2 weeks since turning them @ 6 inches.
I do grow hydro in coco and typically have great results.
Bakersfield
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BTW, heres some Snake Oil. I sprouted these girls about 3 weeks ago.
They've been under 12/12 for 1 week and have not given their sexual identity yet.
HydroRed
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I dont require the weight I used to so weight isnt really a concern for me anymore. Its just for family and friends and myself now. I usually just take clones from momma and root them. Once rooted I'll transplant into 1 gal pots and go straight to 12/12. Im all about convenience & simplicity these days. Ive come to be lazy as shit so its gotta be easy trimming & low maintenance etc. Great for quick runs and getting in a lot of flavors in a year, not so great if you are in "the business".
psychadelibud
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I like the way you are running things Bakers... So when you flower do you flower them in what those nursery trays or coco? Do you have any photos of and previous grows you have ran this way with seeds I stead of clones? I would love to see them.
I used to run a few Sea of greens indoor, but I like doing it best with clones personally. But I would do bit that way as well.
Definitely keep me updated on that Snake Oil bro!
I plan on going to coco next run as well, then eventually going to DWC.
psychadelibud
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Then you are set my friend. I do it for business but still yet hook my best buds and family up with free bags. I am just as addicted to the business, as I am growing and as well as smoking.
I love everything about the herb man, everything. I know it even makes my woman jealous haha.
psychadelibud
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I have a question. I have been checking out a lot of grow journals lately and I have seen tons of people using cmh lighting instead of HPS. Now I have been out of the indoor scene for a little over a year and not really been on many indoor forums in the last couple of years, but what is the reason for this? Why are so many people using cmh ?
Just curious
Just curious
Keystone-grower™
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From what I've gathered, it because of spectrum, efficiency, and penetration. That said, I've not personally used them, seen good results though.
chiqifella
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chiqifella
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right, but the question is not when they flower, or how long they flower, but why do flowering times differ between advertisements and purchased orders?
all your flowers are solid, not casting shade at all, but this is a discrepancy not in actual flowering times but in your advertising.
psychadelibud
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chiqifella
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right but this was not the point:
"oh shit, these are taking longer to flower than advertised"
this was the point though;
"the advertised estimates are shorter flowering times than the purchased printed estimates on the same packs, why dont the estimates match even?"
I couldnt care less if estimates were even given. genetics are good for me. I understand why it is an issue for others, but so far nobody is complaining of flowers not finishing as advertised,
but they wonder why estimates dont match. get it?
Whytewidow83
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Lookn phenomenal man. Are your plants in tubs instead of pots?
psychadelibud
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I never transplant this early. But I have to be staying busy doing something when it comes to growing or marijuana, period... Or else I just don't feel right. I will likely go ahead soon and start some plants for this years guerilla grow and also start on plot preparation as well. If I start now I will for sure have some monsters. Last time I started them in feb, not one plant had under a lb and a half on it and this is guerilla style with no supplemental watering or much maintenance.
I usually leave them in those nursery containers for 2 weeks or maybe a little less. These are 6 days old I believe, but they told me they were ready. I just evenly moistened the soil with water and a mixture of Real Growers Recharge has tons of mycorrhizae, powdered molasses, fulvic/ humic acids and amino acids <--- The best microbe supplement you can own, trust me on that. And then topped of with a couple ml of AN b52 and voodoo juice.
They are ready to roll... This is all of the Jelly Pie, Night Rider, Blueberry Cheesecake and Pineapple Chunk.
The Purple Outlaw and Full Moon Fever have a couple or three more days to catch up before being transplanted.
By the way, those seedlings may have been 5 or 6 days old but the roots were very dense and robust. Already coming out the bottom of the tray and layered on the bottom.
I usually leave them in those nursery containers for 2 weeks or maybe a little less. These are 6 days old I believe, but they told me they were ready. I just evenly moistened the soil with water and a mixture of Real Growers Recharge has tons of mycorrhizae, powdered molasses, fulvic/ humic acids and amino acids <--- The best microbe supplement you can own, trust me on that. And then topped of with a couple ml of AN b52 and voodoo juice.
They are ready to roll... This is all of the Jelly Pie, Night Rider, Blueberry Cheesecake and Pineapple Chunk.
The Purple Outlaw and Full Moon Fever have a couple or three more days to catch up before being transplanted.
By the way, those seedlings may have been 5 or 6 days old but the roots were very dense and robust. Already coming out the bottom of the tray and layered on the bottom.
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psychadelibud
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I get it... But I am also definitely not getting back into that debate. I believe Gu~ did a fine job along with about 12 others in summing this up for everyone.
I was just shooting for an answer to your question. Maybe someone else can help you with your issue.
chiqifella
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there is no debate, or issue, only a curiosity as to why they dont match, not why they vary. I must have missed the fine explanation, sry for the blood pressure. carry on
psychadelibud
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I thought that he had said there was a mistake on his part and it would basically be corrected. That was my taking of it, but I may need to re read the post. I forget things easily.
I personally do not worry at all about flowering times unless I have a pure or mostly sativa on my hands or anything with land race in its blood/genes...
Out of all the packs I had purchased from Gu~ and I have purchased tons, not once did I ever look at the flowering time... What I did notice however was the lineage in the strains. That gave me right off the bat, the idea flowering time I would be up against.
But I can see how it can matter and be important to some folks.
