nobighurry
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Dream catcher week 7
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Dream catcher week 7
littlegiant
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Well I sure hope my statistical probabilities are with me this round! Only pop 4 beans at a time, so it sucks when I get only 1 or 2 fems to put in my 4x4 tent. Trying to raise my odds this time, so I put 8 down this time. Its no different then buying a lottery ticket to me.
ShLUbY
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that's what i was trying to do earlier until i was insulted LOL
loving the input here though. definitely genes can be turned on and off.. and it seems likely that there is a gene that expresses male morphology even in an all female plant (i.e. feminizing)... so there is definitely more than just XY going on here... male could go female with mutation inactivating Y chromosome (assuming proper gene dosage with one functional X), or female can go male by the activation or inactivation of some gene(s). As pointed out... we understand so little still. Most of our genetic advances have happened in the last 20-25 years, and with cannabis being federally illegal, the research just isn't in. but if it goes legal, guaranteed we'll know as much about cannabis as we do tobacco or maize, or arabadopsis. Most of what we know about plant genetics comes from crops that have a heavy role in the industrial food market. Once this goes legal, or gets rescheduled at least, we will start to unlock these mysteries of this great plant!
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thenotsoesoteric
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I was gonna post this the other day but deleted it.So again I will say M/F is totally luck of the draw at this point. Until there is a many times over a confirmed way of influencing it for the average grower, it remain luck of the draw. The good thing is it still remains true only one good female is needed to produce copious amounts of ganja and offspring. I would rather find that one female then have people try to fuck with the genes trying to determine its sex.
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All I know is luck is involved but you can help your luck out, imo. I follow old advice I've read a few places over the years, I think I read it first in Ed's or Jorge" books and the theory makes sense.
Seeds are not predetermined and sex is not decided till after the seedling is 2 weeks old. Even DNA testing for sex makes you wait 2 weeks before you can test plants.
The theory is is seeds are exposed to drought like conditions the male to female ratio will be higher because the seed is expecting a drought year with lack of resources.
Making seeds takes a lot of energy and water so the if the seeds produce more females it is likely those plants will not produce seeds that years and the gene pool dies. If those same seeds produce more males it is likely the males' pollen might find some near by female that is in better environmental conditions.
Now if in the first 2 weeks it is cool and wet then the seeds predict a year with enough rain/water to produce seeds so the ratio of females will be higher.
The tips I've read are:
Blue spectrum fluorescent/MH/led
higher nitrogen ratio in nutrients
14/10 on/off lights
cooler temps verus higher temps 68-72ish
I don't always do the 14/10 because I have clones and I sometimes use heating pad for winter but temps overall are on the low side. Also for the last couple years I have used mixed spectrum t5 bulbs in my 4 bulb 4ft light, but I went back to full blue the other day.
As you said typically it's 50/50 or close but I, knock on wood, have never had a 1/5 type male to female, that's nuts! My last few popping have been:
4/5 females of grapes 13 hazeman
4/4 female goji og
5/8 my miyagi cross
4/8 my miyagi
Next up are 2 Cookies'n'chem and 4 c99 by peak, I'm hoping for all females this time, lol but if I get a male of the CnC he's going to hit up some ladies.
thenotsoesoteric
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No, it's not. We are human beings dude not plants. You can't cut your finger off and grow a whole new you so...
thenotsoesoteric
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Life will find a way, it's part of evolution.
Humans always want things to be right or wrong black or white but we live in the grey.
MrChocolateGrow
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@Gu I LOLed hard, because that's where I found the info regarding environment and its effects on Male/Female Ratio.I’m not sure. This guy that wore a Rasta wig and French beret told me it did.
@Chunky Stool Here you go. I took screen shots of the book and pages regarding Male/Female and environment. (Please remember, that there are other things that may effect Male/Female ratio such as... getting lucky, or the genetics involved. This post was meant to help everyone out with what they CAN control.)
I also started going pure organic until after 20-30 days after reading this, due to nutrients having an affect on the Male/Female ratio. I have to agree with what he says. After fitting the environment to these specifications, I've starting noticing a big increase in females of about 60-70% Female to Male ratio. Enjoy the read.
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Derrick83
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I read that book too!!
MrChocolateGrow
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Definitely one of the better ones. So much misleading information on the internet/forums it's a solid guide for people, but can also be a little scary and overwhelming for new grower.
It's a great beginners guide. Then you learn how to grow and know better then to go back to the book for advice.
MrChocolateGrow
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Beautiful. What does she smell like? Balanced, or Blue dream dominant?
MrChocolateGrow
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I totally agree, It becomes very instinctual. I had a thick layer of dust on all my books. Starting off, I was looking for a very rigid schedule and rules to follow, like maintaining and working on a car. As soon as I got rid of that mentality, and starting looking at the plants as things with their own personality with changing needs, then I actually starting finding success.
whytewidow
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And btw eith stem cell you can clone cells so actually with cells you can grow an ear with your DNA on the back of a mouse. so you are wrong.
thenotsoesoteric
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No, I am not. Cut your finger off and show us the new you. You can't do it, period. Sure humans with a lot of money and resources can clone cells but ain't no one cloning humans by cutting off body parts.
whytewidow
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I'm not argueing with you. Clones of plants are not 100% exact identical copies of the plant u cut it off of. And you can take cells and create other cells which then create an embryo and grow a child from it with matching dna. So yes you are wrong. There are quite a few test tube babies. My point was just give reference. The clone had the same genetic make up as the mother plant. But if you grow it out it won't look identical. Jus as making a human wouldn't be the exact same but would have the same genetic make up.
HydoDan
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Not Yet!
whytewidow
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But this thread is way off topic now. So how bout some OBS starting flower tomorrow.
thenotsoesoteric
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Dude, there is no arguing but I like how you try to put it on me. Humans can not now or ever clone the way plants do. If a piece of plant breaks off and falls to the ground and there is enough moisture it will sprout roots and grow a plant, humans will not. My point is human bodies and plant bodies do not act the same in their biological processes.