Grow Room SIZE ?????

I have a very small closet that I would like to use as a grow room, I am wondering what yall's opinion is on the size. Is it possible to use such a small closet, how many plants do you think I could (or should) put in there and how much lighting and what kind of lighting ??? Closet size is 38"W X 26"D X 94"H, basically a 3 foot X 2 foot X 7 1/2 dimension. I am only wanting something small for very personal use, just wondering if this is too small. I appreciate any comments or opinions.

You could always split it into two levels. That way you could maximize space, cos I dont really think you will fit a 7 foot monster in your closet. No wat I mean?

geronamo said:

You could always split it into two levels. That way you could maximize space, cos I dont really think you will fit a 7 foot monster in your closet. No wat I mean?

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Thanks for the reply geronamo, currently right now there is a shelf in it with a clothes bar below it at about 5 feet so technically it already is two levels, I could hang lights from the clothes bar and lower them as low as I need to and raise them accordingly as needed pretty easily with a chain wrapped around the clothes bar. What kind of lights would I use, will they cause alot of excess heat so I have to add a fan(s) with the closet being so small ??? Are the dimensions of the closet too small ??? I have never grown before, especially indoors, but as I stated above, I only want a small amount for 2 people. And no, you are correct, I don't want a 7 foot monster in the closet. Thanks again.

Can anyone give me any input as to WHAT lighting would be best for a small space like this, would it be better to go with a HPS light or CFL light in a small space like this ??? How about cooling and vertilation, would I need a fan if I used CFL's ??? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Seeing as you are only looking to make enough for personal use I would just go with something simple like a 150w or 250w hps, get a fan in the room, and try to find a way to get some sort of exhaust hook up, no matter wha you do you will need fresh air (exhaust). Go out and get a simple nutrient package from your local hydro or gardening store some high grade soil (to avoid any bug or mold problems), get some ph drops to test your waters ph (you will soon find out how important this is, try to keep your water and/or nutrient solution around 6.3-6.5) and off you go. I do suggest purchasing seeds that way you will know what you are dealing with bagseed can go very wrong if you get unlucky, I can personally recommend hempdepot.ca or drchronic.com but there are lots of sites out there that work just fine. Good luck on your new hobby and their are plenty of peple here willing to answer any other questions you may have.

Wow, thanks for the reply regrets. I wouldn't of thought I could have gone with such a small light, I figured I would at least want a 400W hps, but if I can do it with a 250 then that's even better. This closet is in my house so venting into the attic with fans will be easy to do. I was thinking of going with a hydro/aero unit and not soil though.

I also don't have any hrdro store anywhere near me, where would be the best place to buy lighting, preferrably off ebay since that is where my "play" money is kept,lol. Anybody got any GOOD ebay sellers that they use ??

Dirt, Just get some flouros or cfl's and a small fan. Buy some lowrider ak47 seeds and give it a go. Small plants, very easy to grow and you get a pretty decent smoke. 70 days total...seed to harvest. 5-7 days drying, couple weeks curing in mason jars and your done. Its about the simplest and cheapest way to go.

Boneman said:

Dirt, Just get some flouros or cfl's and a small fan. Buy some lowrider ak47 seeds and give it a go. Small plants, very easy to grow and you get a pretty decent smoke. 70 days total...seed to harvest. 5-7 days drying, couple weeks curing in mason jars and your done. Its about the simplest and cheapest way to go.

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what he said. keep it simple and cheap the first time and if you like the hobby upgrade later. just grow a couple of plants and work out the bugs.

How much do you think you will need to produce to indulge the habits of the two of you, that will have a lot to do with what your set up will need. The size room that you have is much bigger than many people on this sight are working with. If you are deciding to go hydro/aero I don't have any info for you there, but as a new grower I still suggest starting out in dirt, it is just much cheaper (initially), and much more difficult to screw up, but to each his own, you can make that decision on your own. Just let me know how much you will need to produce and how often and we can try to guide you on the best method to pull it off.

I would LOVE to get about 12-15 oz's per yield, IF that's even possible. Remember, this is my first time around so I have no idea on what the yield would even be, I am clueless, I am just trying to do "advanced research" before I even buy anything. I haven't bolt anything yet so I am not dead set on hydro, just would like to try it, I am not opposed to dirt. Am I hoping for too much yield ?? Thanks again regret.

regrets said:

How much do you think you will need to produce to indulge the habits of the two of you, that will have a lot to do with what your set up will need. The size room that you have is much bigger than many people on this sight are working with. If you are deciding to go hydro/aero I don't have any info for you there, but as a new grower I still suggest starting out in dirt, it is just much cheaper (initially), and much more difficult to screw up, but to each his own, you can make that decision on your own. Just let me know how much you will need to produce and how often and we can try to guide you on the best method to pull it off.

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desertrat said:

what he said. keep it simple and cheap the first time and if you like the hobby upgrade later. just grow a couple of plants and work out the bugs.

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excellent advice desertrat. If I went with CFL's, how many and what wattage ??

Dirtbmw20 said:

excellent advice desertrat. If I went with CFL's, how many and what wattage ??

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you want to get 75 actual (not equivalent) watts per square ft of cfls so 300 watts total if you use your whole space. not a cfl expert but people seem to prefer the 42 watt size so you can spread them around your plants. cfl's are not very strong and need to be within 4" of the plant to be the most effective.

how bout this
partition the box so you get 2 sections,1 2ft for vegging and 1 5ft for flowering. this way you can veg to about 12" and then flower to about 2.5ft if needed.
use around 150w of CFLs or tubes for the 2ft veg section.
a 250w hps should work good in the flowering section or maybe go with a 400w and cooltube if you can handle the heat.
a couple fans, maybe a 50cfm for the veg bit and a 100-150cfm or so for the flower bit. a small oscillating fan would be good too.

the 250w might get you 3-5oz if all goes well, look into topping, LST and scrog to help improve the yields.

paddy510 said:

the 250w might get you 3-5oz if all goes well

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If we are talking that kind of yield PER PLANT then that is dead on and just about perfect. I was gonna try doing the vegging stage in my aerogarden them move them to the closet for flowering stage. How many plants can I get in a closet that is 3 feet wide X 2 feet deep ??

you will never get 12-15 oz. off of 1 250w lamp, you would be doing a damn good job to pull that much off of 1 600w lamp with optimal conditions. how often do you need to produce 12-15 oz. are you looking to do that much every 2 months, maybe 4 months. If you are looking to pull that much out of a room that size every 2 months that will be almost impossible. you can generally figure .5-1g per watt of hps per harvest that you are running but those numbers aren't easy to get. So how often do you need that much quantity and how much are you willing to spend to get this off the ground.

thatd be 3-5oz total, not per plant. about 1oz per plant depending on how many plants and what style grow.
you could fit 6 plants in 8-10inch pots with a little bit of room to move.

regrets said:

you will never get 12-15 oz. off of 1 250w lamp, .

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what he said. if you review the site you'll see that people are pretty happy with .5 gm/watt. btw, you'll get half the light energy with the cfl's as opposed to the same wattage hps. if you can stand the heat, the hps is the way to go for flowering, imo

Dirtbmw20 said:

How many plants can I get in a closet that is 3 feet wide X 2 feet deep ??

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depends on whether you split into two grow spaces - one grow space could handle 4 - 6 indica/sativa blends. two grow spaces could handle many more plants in veg and a few more in flower because you need to use smaller strains and/or veg for a shorter time.

Not looking to harvest every two months, it would be ideal to get that kind of yield every 4-6 months. As far as money, I'm as tight as the rest of the world right now, I'm looking to economize but I want to get what I really need without having to spend a fortune.

regrets said:

you will never get 12-15 oz. off of 1 250w lamp, you would be doing a damn good job to pull that much off of 1 600w lamp with optimal conditions. how often do you need to produce 12-15 oz. are you looking to do that much every 2 months, maybe 4 months. If you are looking to pull that much out of a room that size every 2 months that will be almost impossible. you can generally figure .5-1g per watt of hps per harvest that you are running but those numbers aren't easy to get. So how often do you need that much quantity and how much are you willing to spend to get this off the ground.

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rat, I JUST replied in your journal, excellent journal by the way. I have about the same space as you are using rat, I read that you have a 6 foot square space and my closet is 3 feet wide X 2 feet deep which is about the same as yours. I would LOVE to duplicate your set-up in my closet.

desertrat said:

what he said. if you review the site you'll see that people are pretty happy with .5 gm/watt. btw, you'll get half the light energy with the cfl's as opposed to the same wattage hps. if you can stand the heat, the hps is the way to go for flowering, imo



depends on whether you split into two grow spaces - one grow space could handle 4 - 6 indica/sativa blends. two grow spaces could handle many more plants in veg and a few more in flower because you need to use smaller strains and/or veg for a shorter time.

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