Hello, need some help please.
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Sassafras¥
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Damn man.. sorry that shit happen... Yeah, I read where you accidentally over nuted. Hopefully they'll be ok with a good flush.... fingers crossed for you
OldMedUser
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EC means Electrical Conductivity. Nutrients are salts and the more salt there is in the water the easier it is for a current to pass between the two electrodes in the meter's probe and the higher the EC. It is also expressed as parts per million, PPM, which is the type I use. I don't use it for nutes I feed my plants in soil preferring to just go by mls/L for them and using the pen to test my nute levels for DWC.
If you haven't flushed your plants yet you should get on that ASAP. I didn't realize you had been overfeeding them so much but they can come back OK if taken care of. 3X the volume of the pots need to be washed thru them to get rid of all the excess salts but rather than waiting for the pots to dry out you should add a bit of all three bottles of nutes to the last couple of liters of flushing water for each pot so they have a balance of food to aid in their recovery. 1ml/L or a tsp/gal will make sure they have a bit of everything and you should see some improvement by the next time they need watering. Just figure a half gal per pot and mix up enough in a pail to do all of them for the last of the flush.
They're going to look rough for a while but if the new growth comes in healthy looking you should still manage to get a decent crop off them.
Good luck!
OldMedUser
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Forgot to mention that you should pH your water if those aren't pH Perfect nutes. I figured they all were now so they either didn't do it with those or you have real old bottles of nutes. I almost bought a 10 or 12 year old jar of Big Bud powder last summer but knew that Dr. Hornsby's name hasn't been on the label for that long and told the guy it wasn't very nice of him to sell old stock like that at full price. He left it on the shelf. 
pH 6 - 6.5 should be fine but wait to test until the nutes have all been mixed in and it's sat for at least an hour so the pH can stabilize. Overnight is even better. Even better is to have a small air pump bubbling in the water to load it up with as much oxygen as possible before giving it to the plants. Will help stabilize the pH faster too.
pH 6 - 6.5 should be fine but wait to test until the nutes have all been mixed in and it's sat for at least an hour so the pH can stabilize. Overnight is even better. Even better is to have a small air pump bubbling in the water to load it up with as much oxygen as possible before giving it to the plants. Will help stabilize the pH faster too.
Ok. Well the lights are off in the flower tent right now. They come back on at 6pm. I can flush out each plant and hope they come back, I really need them to. I feel so stupid for over fertilizing them so much.
Question, it doesnt say "ph perfect" on the jug, and when I go to ph the water after mixing all the fertilizers in, then it gets cloudy and starts to separate. I have not tried doing this in the right dosing also. I think that might change also. I have a "ppm" so I will be able to give better answers tonight. I will get run off, and make a little fert solution to see what my ph and ppm are.
When flushing, I can set it outside and just run the hose on it for awhile, right?
Once again, thank you guys both for your help. I greatly appreciate it.
Question, it doesnt say "ph perfect" on the jug, and when I go to ph the water after mixing all the fertilizers in, then it gets cloudy and starts to separate. I have not tried doing this in the right dosing also. I think that might change also. I have a "ppm" so I will be able to give better answers tonight. I will get run off, and make a little fert solution to see what my ph and ppm are.
When flushing, I can set it outside and just run the hose on it for awhile, right?
Once again, thank you guys both for your help. I greatly appreciate it.
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Forgot to mention that you should pH your water if those aren't pH Perfect nutes. I figured they all were now so they either didn't do it with those or you have real old bottles of nutes. I almost bought a 10 or 12 year old jar of Big Bud powder last summer but knew that Dr. Hornsby's name hasn't been on the label for that long and told the guy it wasn't very nice of him to sell old stock like that at full price. He left it on the shelf.
pH 6 - 6.5 should be fine but wait to test until the nutes have all been mixed in and it's sat for at least an hour so the pH can stabilize. Overnight is even better. Even better is to have a small air pump bubbling in the water to load it up with as much oxygen as possible before giving it to the plants. Will help stabilize the pH faster too.
OldMedUser, Im4santori, a lot has been going on. I had a very tragic family emergency and am back, A lot has been going on. I flushed every plant I had on Thursday night. ran water over them for about 6 min each. Maybe 10 gallons through each pot. So I redid the food system like you guys said to, the numbers are as follows now.
Pure water from hose
7.1 ph
106 ppm
With grow nutes
6.9 ph
287 ppm
With Micro added
6.6 ph
521 ppm
Bloom added
6.5 ph
611 ppm
That is the veg chart. didn't even have to add ph up or down. very nice What a complete fuck up I was. I flushed everything.Problem now is my plants look like this. I literally snapped all the veg plant except for select few that I felt that we ok. I had to go to a grow facility to get these, and ever since I got them home the growth is super slow and the leaves look horrible. the pics with the netting are all the plants I have in veg right now. I don't know what to do? At first I thought they were underwater? I watered them and they still look like garbage. The plants in the pics have no association to the plants in the room and were never over ferted.
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Forgot to mention that you should pH your water if those aren't pH Perfect nutes. I figured they all were now so they either didn't do it with those or you have real old bottles of nutes. I almost bought a 10 or 12 year old jar of Big Bud powder last summer but knew that Dr. Hornsby's name hasn't been on the label for that long and told the guy it wasn't very nice of him to sell old stock like that at full price. He left it on the shelf.
pH 6 - 6.5 should be fine but wait to test until the nutes have all been mixed in and it's sat for at least an hour so the pH can stabilize. Overnight is even better. Even better is to have a small air pump bubbling in the water to load it up with as much oxygen as possible before giving it to the plants. Will help stabilize the pH faster too.
So these are pics from the plants O flushed with about 10 gallons each. The runoff was horrible. I didn't not remember to check the runoff ph or ppm. I don't know what to do. The strain is 9lb hammer and it is 4 weeks into flower. I cannot afford to lose this batch. My wife is hounding me to figure something out and fast. Please, any help is greatly appreciated from anyone.
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OldMedUser
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Holy crap!
Those first plant pics with the droopy ones. Flushing reduces the ppm drastically and I had a similar thing happen with a revegged girl in DWC when I cleaned out the tub and ran RO water with peroxide for 24 hours then added a ll the nutes. Kind of a shock where they reverse the flow of nutes from the plant out through the roots. I sprayed her really good a couple times a day with RO water to keep her hydrated and after about a week she started perking up and went on to give me a few oz of good bud.
The 2nd batch of pics I don't know WTF is going on. Weird mottled looking chlorosis thing happening. If you flushed with water right out of the hose maybe it's something in your water. Chlorine, chloramine. Not sure. Did you feed those ones too and how much?
How much all this might have to do with the initial overdose I'm not sure but mist those girls good and get under the leaves where the absorb the water best and ride it out. AN makes a product called Revive for situations like this and it's supposed to work pretty good if you can get it. My guy was out when I got a lot of stuff last fall. Never used it but thought it might be handy to have around.
Good luck!
Those first plant pics with the droopy ones. Flushing reduces the ppm drastically and I had a similar thing happen with a revegged girl in DWC when I cleaned out the tub and ran RO water with peroxide for 24 hours then added a ll the nutes. Kind of a shock where they reverse the flow of nutes from the plant out through the roots. I sprayed her really good a couple times a day with RO water to keep her hydrated and after about a week she started perking up and went on to give me a few oz of good bud.
The 2nd batch of pics I don't know WTF is going on. Weird mottled looking chlorosis thing happening. If you flushed with water right out of the hose maybe it's something in your water. Chlorine, chloramine. Not sure. Did you feed those ones too and how much?
How much all this might have to do with the initial overdose I'm not sure but mist those girls good and get under the leaves where the absorb the water best and ride it out. AN makes a product called Revive for situations like this and it's supposed to work pretty good if you can get it. My guy was out when I got a lot of stuff last fall. Never used it but thought it might be handy to have around.
Good luck!
Okay, so the first pics of the droopy ones, they few new plants that never had a note issue. They were not flushed, I just threw most everything out in veg and started over, these are plants that I went and bought. When I bought them they looked great, and then I got them home and then the looked decent for a day and then I put them in the tent and this all started. The droopy bullshit.
The second pics of the tent with plants in flower is the ones that I flushed. I feel like I have so many things going wrong? I thought that curled down crows feet leaves meant that there was over ferting? But it happened before I flushed and now even more after I flushed. I am so confused.
OldMedUser
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You should just make sure they have been fed a proper mix about 1/2 strength of nutes and pray to whatever diety you prefer for a break. It's hard enough figuring out what's wrong sometimes when you have the plants in front of you much less from a remote location. Should back off the lights a bit too. Lower light levels are best with ailing plants.
Do you think you could get that Revive stuff. Might be worth a shot. Other companies make something like it too and as I've never used it I'm not positive it'll save the day. Some B-12 plant food like Thrive or seafood/kelp ferts are said to do wonders but don't go overboard with anything.
Wish I could help out more.
Do you think you could get that Revive stuff. Might be worth a shot. Other companies make something like it too and as I've never used it I'm not positive it'll save the day. Some B-12 plant food like Thrive or seafood/kelp ferts are said to do wonders but don't go overboard with anything.
Wish I could help out more.