++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

hellraizer30 said:

I once had a 2x4 table setup with hydroton almost the same as you.. And when i flooded
i went to much and the net pots started to roll over was a pain in the ass till i backed
off the amount of water.


thats a concrete mixing tub right?

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I'm a bit obsessive about my plants... I spend hours sitting on a little stool, staring at them and "thinking". So I've been there and watched the flood numerous times. My pots are stable. When I set it up, I put the pots in first and then filled in around them with the hydroton. There was some initial "drift" but everything seems pretty settled now. There are a few floaters that wander around the table, maybe 30% or less. They float a bit and then seem to settle pretty much in the same configuration each time.

And yeah, that's a concrete mixing tub from Home Depot. I used to despise that store... till I started growing. Then suddenly the plumbing and electrical departments became my favorite haunts. My first grow was under an ever expanding canopy of CFL's. I started with 4 and by the time my plants were done, I had 19 bulbs, strung on a single extension cord that I made myself. Sucker was 12 feet long and I just wrapped it around a wire shelf and hung it over my plants.

Yah i got a few of thos tubs for mixing coco cheap and effective

Belle of Buds said:

I'm a bit obsessive about my plants... I spend hours sitting on a little stool, staring at them and "thinking". .

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and who said "watching the grass grow" isn't fun?

I will pm you paco

joe macclennan said:

and who said "watching the grass grow" isn't fun?

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Right? I have a folding bungee chair, a stool for my pipe/weed/lighter/pokey/phone ensemble, a pillow for my laptop and I could sit in there for hours. Since my grow is in my master bathroom, the family sometimes wonders if I have intestinal issues since I spend so much time in the bathroom.

Belle of Buds said:

Right? I have a folding bungee chair, a stool for my pipe/weed/lighter/pokey/phone ensemble, a pillow for my laptop and I could sit in there for hours. Since my grow is in my master bathroom, the family sometimes wonders if I have intestinal issues since I spend so much time in the bathroom.

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Haha... ......

This is in a Oceanus ebb n Gro system, using just heavy 16 base nutes. Any clue what this is?

Wondering what I can do nutrient wise to beef up this grow a little. Had bad ph rising issues and I am not seeing the root growth I should be. Thinking of putting airstones in buckets because I think the standing water is fuckin plants up. Got 4 systems with 18 sites each. Only running heavy a and b base nutrients and today I put hydrogen peroxide In the mix to see if it fixed my ph problems. Was using prime and roots excel but I felt they in combination were causing ph problems cause prime is mostly organic. Not using any airstones in Rez just recirc pumps
A few questions-
1. What other nutrients can I add in to make this grow a huge success in regards to mostly synthetic
2. Is ph downing every day too much ph down?
3. Any other tips to help me pull this 20k watt grow off

Hellraizer30 do you have an idea what can be up with these few plants. This is the first week of flower and they are under a 1000 watt hps. I just raised it up higher. I had to adjust the Ph to 5.5 from 6.2 . The ppm jumped from 900 to 1300 ppm but now it is adjusted back as well. The room temp is 78f and humidity is 50%. They are only being fed Dyna Gro grow and Pro Tek.

This is on my aero ebb and flow table. I feed at 80 seconds on and 8 minutes off. Here is a bit of root porn.

GreenDyl said:

View attachment 2729043This is in a Oceanus ebb n Gro system, using just heavy 16 base nutes. Any clue what this is?

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Heat stress

For sure? Only 4 out of 60 plants have it. And the room under the lights is no higher then 80. I did just switch the lights from 600 to 1000

GreenDyl said:

For sure? Only 4 out of 60 plants have it. And the room under the lights is no higher then 80. I did just switch the lights from 600 to 1000

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Are all the plants the same strain?

drekoushranada said:

Hellraizer30 do you have an idea what can be up with these few plants. This is the first week of flower and they are under a 1000 watt hps. I just raised it up higher. I had to adjust the Ph to 5.5 from 6.2 . The ppm jumped from 900 to 1300 ppm but now it is adjusted back as well. The room temp is 78f and humidity is 50%. They are only being fed Dyna Gro grow and Pro Tek.

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If your referring to the weird looking leaves.. Imo its from ph being out of wack

hellraizer30 said:

Are all the plants the same strain?

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No, there's 3 diff strains in there and they all got mixed up and shit so we don't know which is which.

Okay. That is what I was thinking.

I am just going to run heisenburgs tea, heavy 16 a and b, and roots excel and see if that fixes the problem. Deff had a little bit of root rot going. The picture I took of the leaf I am thinking is a phosphorus burn, probably due to the 1280 ppm of just veg a and b I was pushing.

GreenDyl said:

I am just going to run heisenburgs tea, heavy 16 a and b, and roots excel and see if that fixes the problem. Deff had a little bit of root rot going. The picture I took of the leaf I am thinking is a phosphorus burn, probably due to the 1280 ppm of just veg a and b I was pushing.

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I alway say keep it simple then adjust... Sounds like thats what your going to do! Keep us posted

I would probably leave the root excel out of that equation. But I guess if you have it already....