ginjawarrior
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yeah multi story farming is definitely needed before too much longer you never know they might be looking for expert indoor growers soon
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yeah multi story farming is definitely needed before too much longer you never know they might be looking for expert indoor growers soon
ViRedd
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I can't believe that some of you guys are buying into the MAN CAUSED global warming hoax. Wake up! There are TRILLIONS of dollars to be made off of the global warming hoax, not to mention the totalitarian programs coming down the pike. Take a hard look at this thread for example. Where are we going ... population control? Limiting people to one child only ... BY FORCE?
The answer to global warming is the wealth creation of the free market. Keep the thinkers free to think and to innovate. Raise the living standards of the poorest countries through free market principles ... and keep government out of the way. There is a reason that the poorest countries are the largest polluters. Want to guess what that reason is?
The answer to global warming is the wealth creation of the free market. Keep the thinkers free to think and to innovate. Raise the living standards of the poorest countries through free market principles ... and keep government out of the way. There is a reason that the poorest countries are the largest polluters. Want to guess what that reason is?
CSI Stickyicky
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At current consumption rates, and population growth rates, there is an impending doom. The population will rise, as our ability to provide for the needs of, and take care of the waste of, humans. However, humans are very smart and adaptable creatures. I think we will find the answers and live on through the population spike. More and more people are recognizing this need to adapt to a changing environment, and adapting their lifestyles to fit. San Francisco started collecting peoples food scraps to compost. People in Taos New Mexico started building fully sustainable homes that provide for the food and heating needs using only the sun and collected rainwater, and the waste management needs right on sight, and the homes are made from waste products. (Google "Earthship")
The people on our planet today are starting to adapt, and as the population rises, people will continue to adapt. Never underestimate the Human.
The people on our planet today are starting to adapt, and as the population rises, people will continue to adapt. Never underestimate the Human.
ginjawarrior
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im sorry but your the only one here suggesting anything being done by force. its even said in the program that education is the key to lowering birthrates. that is raising standards for all those poorer countries. wouldnt they do better in the free market is everyone of them had access to proper education?
why must people always just see demons in things they dont understand?
medicineman
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It is soley because of the rampant exercise of "free market principles" that we find the world in an impending doom scenario. Free markets reward the few at the expenxe of the many. Poor countries have been exploited by the free marketers for the last 100+ years. The corporations (Free marketeers) come into a country, grab the resources, exploit the workers, and leave a huge biological mess, then leave with all the capital gained by such means. The reason we have to have a large military contingency is because we have to protect our corporations interest by coercing the foriegn governments into giving us the resources, providing the labor at pennies on the dollar and giving them a little off the top. Anyone that cant see this has a problem with the truth. This is the absolute backbone of Capitalism. Look back to the 20s-30s in this country. The government (Lobbied by the corporations) sent police and military to break strikes, to break unions, and to get the American workers under control. Now that the jobs have been eliminated for good by the absolute greed of the capitalists, by outsourcing and sending them overseas, we may see an upsurge in worker protests. I certainly hope so. I hope the American workers are not without some balls.
Jack*Herrer420
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Why don't you come out of the closet already, you are a marxist, plain and simple.
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Keenly
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uh oh look out here comes the evil mr market to overpopulate the earth
this entire thread is just ridiculous
this entire thread is just ridiculous
jeff f
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why is the world always ending with you lefties? you are always telling us "IF WE DONT ACT IN THE NEXT TEN DAYS THE WORLD WILL COME TO A SCREACHING HALT!". thats total f'ng bullshit. take a look at historical food production per acre sometime. we can get 20-30 times more per acre now with fertilizers and pest control. how much more will there be in the future? i dont know but i am guessing it will get even better. you lefties are flat earth, everything must remain static, blah blah blah.
then when you get a real enemy, one that wants to chop your head off, "no problem here folks, its all our fault". stop chasing around ghosts and start being realistic.
you guys seriously need mental help. your sick and getting sicker.
then when you get a real enemy, one that wants to chop your head off, "no problem here folks, its all our fault". stop chasing around ghosts and start being realistic.
you guys seriously need mental help. your sick and getting sicker.
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Illegal Smile
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Do you all realize these same comments about the future were being made 50 years ago? Let's worry about the Mayan calendar too.
jeff f
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same with the global warming/cooling crap. its been around since the late 1800's. when they get a new generation of eggheads, they play the same old bullshit and a bunch more fall prey and the circle begins again. frustrating
ViRedd
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CSI Stickyicky
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No contradictions. Please show the contradictory part.
ginjawarrior
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Satellites weigh California watersame with the global warming/cooling crap. its been around since the late 1800's. when they get a new generation of eggheads, they play the same old bullshit and a bunch more fall prey and the circle begins again. frustrating
By Jonathan Amos
Science correspondent, BBC News, San Francisco
Nasa satellites have weighed the water lost by the US State of California's heartland since 2003.
The Sacramento and San Joaquin River Basins which support the highly productive Central Valley have shed over 30 cubic km of water in that time.
The data comes from the Grace mission which detects changes in gravity caused by water as it cycles between the sea, the atmosphere and the land.
It illustrates the impact of a drought but also excessive irrigation use.
"The numbers we're getting out of this analysis point to groundwater use at unsustainable rates," said Professor Jay Famiglietti of the University of California, Irvine.
"It's leading to declining water tables, decreased crop sizes, and continued land subsidence - something that has been going on in the Central Valley for decades."
Professor Famiglietti has been describing the California situation here at the American Geophysical Union's (AGU) Fall Meeting, the world's largest annual gathering of Earth scientists.
It is big issue because of California's importance to food production in the US.
Its Central Valley is one of the major agricultural regions in the world.
It grows more than 250 different crops, accounting for a little under a tenth of all the food produced in the US by value. But the Central Valley also accounts for about a sixth of all the irrigated land in the US, making the region the second most pumped aquifer in America.
"Hopefully the drought will end and we'll have more groundwater recharge and the southern part of the valley will get more surface water allocation," Professor Famiglietti told BBC News.
"But if that doesn't happen, the rates that we're pumping just cannot continue. We'll have more and more farmers whose wells go dry, [and] who won't be able to irrigate their crops. All of that has implications for the amount of food we're able to produce."
The Grace mission is a joint venture between Nasa and the German Aerospace Centre (DLR).
It has already been used to weigh the ice sitting on the Greenland and Antarctic landmasses, to demonstrate the billions of tonnes lost to melting each year.
Grace has also observed the continent-wide drying and wetting of Europe and Africa, and only this year detailed the rapidly declining water table in northwest India.
The gravity data returned from the spacecraft is also being used to study ocean circulation to improve climate models.
The satellites obtain their information by executing a carefully calibrated pursuit in orbit.
As one spacecraft lurches and drags through the Earth's uneven gravity field, the second follows 210 km behind, measuring changes in their separation to the nearest micron (a thousandth of a millimetre).
It is the size of those changes detected by the twins that describes the nature and scale of the gravity anomalies - and consequently the changes in mass - over which they pass.
Scientists were not quite sure how valuable Grace's data would be when the pair were launched in 2002, but there have now been a number of seminal scientific papers published on the back of what the spacecraft have observed.
"The beauty and the rewarding thing is when the data proves itself to be so valuable that it actually goes into an operational and a management system, and I think you are seeing Grace in year eight of its mission go into that phase," commented Dr Michael Watkins, the Grace project scientist.
medicineman
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No matter how much proof you put before the blind, (conservatives), the answer is always the same, we are just commie marxists bellowing the sky is falling. When the sky actually does fall, (sic), where will all the conservatives be, oh that's right, they won't see it because they have their heads in the sand or jammed up their asses, collectively. Proof, did you use the "P" word again??
Mindmelted
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Kill the bitch that just had her 19th kid...
medicineman
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I think the major damage is done. One might think about killing the Catholic church that prevents birth control. We all know people aren't going to stop fucking, to wit, billionaire Tiger Woods. Fucked his way right out of the best life possible. At least the participants used birth control or maybe not and we'll find out later about the millionaire Tiger Love child, millionaire after the DNA and settlement that is.
ViRedd
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1. At current consumption rates, and population growth rates, there is an impending doom.
2. However, humans are very smart and adaptable creatures. I think we will find the answers and live on through the population spike. More and more people are recognizing this need to adapt to a changing environment, and adapting their lifestyles to fit.
Predicting impending doom on the one hand, then extolling the greatness of Man's mind on the other seems like a contradiction to me. As long as we depend upon the innovation of Mankind, and allow that innovation to flow freely without the shackles of government holding it back, there will be no doom.
Perhaps we are in agreement here?
OregonMeds
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Best case scenario if we wait until the last minute there will be a large gap of time while people starve and die of thirst or disease before innovation can be rolled out in sufficient size to help them.1. At current consumption rates, and population growth rates, there is an impending doom.
2. However, humans are very smart and adaptable creatures. I think we will find the answers and live on through the population spike. More and more people are recognizing this need to adapt to a changing environment, and adapting their lifestyles to fit.
Predicting impending doom on the one hand, then extolling the greatness of Man's mind on the other seems like a contradiction to me. As long as we depend upon the innovation of Mankind, and allow that innovation to flow freely without the shackles of government holding it back, there will be no doom.
Perhaps we are in agreement here?
That's impending doom and it won't be small.