I could use some help with my cab! (9 PIX)

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Can-Fan RS-4-HO

and it will be the only fan you will need to get. you will not need 2 fans for the cooltube. check out my grows and check out my setups. there are pics in both appearing in my signature. keep that axiel fan there to bring fresh air in the cab.

also, make sure the vents are not covered up when it is in your closet. check that out first. that might be why. but you do need to bring in good air and get a fan that will generate enough power to cool your tube. I use 6 in can fans, but my space is bigger.

hope this helps.



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Best DIY carbon filter I have seen on this site.

and nice sig, only "they" can't make money on bud like they can on war.

galo said:

Try adding an intake fan at the bottom of your box - and keep your two fans up-top for out-take - the box will heat up if cool air isnt brought in to push up the hot air. that may be a quick easy fix - the two fans up top should help circulate the cool air and remove the hot air that rises. You also may want to buy ono blocker for the smell

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What's ono blocker? Got a link?

Da Kine 420 said:

get this

Can-Fan RS-4-HO

and it will be the only fan you will need to get. you will not need 2 fans for the cooltube. check out my grows and check out my setups. there are pics in both appearing in my signature. keep that axiel fan there to bring fresh air in the cab.

also, make sure the vents are not covered up when it is in your closet. check that out first. that might be why. but you do need to bring in good air and get a fan that will generate enough power to cool your tube. I use 6 in can fans, but my space is bigger.

hope this helps.

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that's wassup! Do you think that that 4" High Output fan, 178 CFM, weighs 5 lbs is enough for my little cab in collaboration with the 120mm fan?

Da Kine 420 said:

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Best DIY carbon filter I have seen on this site.

and nice sig, only "they" can't make money on bud like they can on war.

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I know! lol But am I smack for thinking that weed could actually get our country out of debt?

Is 31% humidity and 79 degrees okay for my seedlings with CFL's?

7th1der said:

that's wassup! Do you think that that 4" High Output fan, 178 CFM, weighs 5 lbs is enough for my little cab in collaboration with the 120mm fan?

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i have a 4 in fan with a cfm of 170 pulling air out of my 5.5x2x8ft room. it does just fine. it will be more than enough for your little cab. i garuntee it. i don't like those little fans. what is the cfm of that little fan? the cooltube gets hot and needs a strong force of wind. these can fans deliver. they are not cheap, but i have had success with them.

7th1der said:

Is 31% humidity and 79 degrees okay for my seedlings with CFL's?

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that is where my humidity is at with 3 week old plants. once they get bigger and you give more water, the humididty will go up.

7th1der said:

I know! lol But am I smack for thinking that weed could actually get our country out of debt?

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yes and no, it would do a great deal in helping, but not helping the ones in power. they would have to admit that they were wrong all along and a bunch of pot smokin hippies(intheir eyes) would be right. but i don't think it would make much money because any too bit wacko with some soil and water can grow the shite. fuck the powers that be!

7th1der said:

So, leave the cool tube fan on the same side just turn it around? Then, it will pull all the heat to the corner.

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Then put the fan over your intake for the tube and have it sucking out that way.

Da Kine 420 said:

get this

Can-Fan RS-4-HO

and it will be the only fan you will need to get. you will not need 2 fans for the cooltube. check out my grows and check out my setups. there are pics in both appearing in my signature. keep that axiel fan there to bring fresh air in the cab.

also, make sure the vents are not covered up when it is in your closet. check that out first. that might be why. but you do need to bring in good air and get a fan that will generate enough power to cool your tube. I use 6 in can fans, but my space is bigger.

hope this helps.



edit**

Best DIY carbon filter I have seen on this site.

and nice sig, only "they" can't make money on bud like they can on war.

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So, how would I hook the fan up for cooling the cool tube and smell?

Da Kine 420 said:

i have a 4 in fan with a cfm of 170 pulling air out of my 5.5x2x8ft room. it does just fine. it will be more than enough for your little cab. i garuntee it. i don't like those little fans. what is the cfm of that little fan? the cooltube gets hot and needs a strong force of wind. these can fans deliver. they are not cheap, but i have had success with them.



that is where my humidity is at with 3 week old plants. once they get bigger and you give more water, the humididty will go up.



yes and no, it would do a great deal in helping, but not helping the ones in power. they would have to admit that they were wrong all along and a bunch of pot smokin hippies(intheir eyes) would be right. but i don't think it would make much money because any too bit wacko with some soil and water can grow the shite. fuck the powers that be!

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You a real ass dude/dude-et! I fux withchu! lol and everyone else that replied to my thread! lol

what is the cfm of that little fan?

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Like 70 cfm's. lol don't laugh budget is kinda tite and I am unexperienced as well.

I've got a very similar set up, here are the problems with yours:

All your heat from the cool tube is being blown into the closet, so the fan is just blowing heated air over a heat source. Make sense? You need to continually exhaust the closet where your grow box lives. This brought my temps down a godd ten degrees!

Only pull air with fans. I know a lot of folks pull and push, but start with only pulling. you'll need less fans and as far as the ventilation of the box itself, you will prevent over turbulating the air and pulling more dirt and shit into the box. With the cool tube, the turbulent action of the fan sucking air across the surface of the lamp contributes a great deal to the cooling of it. Have 1 fan pulling air and leave the inlet end un-fanned.

That's it, good luck. I'd get a tall fan and set it at a level in the closet that it's blowing air out through the slats on one of the doors. Low speed will probably do fine. If all this doesnt work, freeze three tall bottled waters (poke a hole in the lid first and drain out a 1/4 cup) and put one of those in the cab every morning.

Pac has a good point there.

So 7th, besides the heat issue its a really nice set up you have there. ( Hows your ole' lady been treatin ya lately ) I am still working on the finer details of my dresser grow but I have two bagseed seedlings popped outta the ground with their heads lookin high. One of the stems is even pretty purple along with the bottom of the first leaf set. Good luck your box, you will get a nice production if you can get that heat issue figure out.

My ole lady has been completely a non issue. I quit smokin cause my current job is stressin me out and im going to be looking for a new one so she has been pretty nice to me bacause I have been so cranky lately and this gives me somethin to do.

Hope all is well and Ill be following! I may start a journal myself once I get my dresser finalized.

7th1der said:

What's ono blocker? Got a link?

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Heres a quick link I googled for ONA BLOCK (sorry for the miss name earlier) - Ona Odor Block - most hydro stores carry it.

I got my fan from ebay for £45, about $65 shipped, it's pretty similar to this RVK ALTERNATIVE!! IN LINE DUCT EXTRACTOR FAN 100mm 4" on eBay, also Hydroponics, Plants Seeds Bulbs, Garden Plants, Home Garden (end time 11-Dec-08 23:06:16 GMT) I've had a look around and can't find any with a higher flow rate at 100mm (which is what your cooltube looks like to me) I would say that one of these (or similar) pulling through your cooltube and the pc fan you have atm doing a bit of extraction from the growroom would suffice. Let us know how you fare, Bob

With good DIY skills like you obviously have, any fan can be made very quiet as long as its not the actual motor creating the sound.. Insulating and vibration buffering of a 250cfm bathroom fan for instance can make it nearly silent when you tack a carbon filter to the output.. You can't really insulate the motor safely though without serious overheating risks.. xogenic had some great ideas.. I think he was talking about opening up the back such that air can get out fairly freely but most light gets blocked before leaking since air handles corners differently..
pac-mans point is also pretty critical.. How freely can air move through those door slats? A silenced fan up high in the closet itself.. Ideally properly ducted through the ceiling would solve your woes in conjunction with the other advice..
You'd still want a filter on the box itself though because you'd need a prett giant fan to create enough negative pressure in the closet to avoid odour leaks into the room.. If sound is critical, I can only assume odor control is more critical..

galo said:

Heres a quick link I googled for ONA BLOCK (sorry for the miss name earlier) - Ona Odor Block - most hydro stores carry it.

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Come to think about it.... I have seen this in the Hydro store around the way. It's pretty cheap too. Well at least until I have the carbon hook'd up. Good lookin' out!

Hairy Bob said:

I got my fan from ebay for £45, about $65 shipped, it's pretty similar to this RVK ALTERNATIVE!! IN LINE DUCT EXTRACTOR FAN 100mm 4" on eBay, also Hydroponics, Plants Seeds Bulbs, Garden Plants, Home Garden (end time 11-Dec-08 23:06:16 GMT) I've had a look around and can't find any with a higher flow rate at 100mm (which is what your cooltube looks like to me) I would say that one of these (or similar) pulling through your cooltube and the pc fan you have atm doing a bit of extraction from the growroom would suffice. Let us know how you fare, Bob

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I'm diggin the fan dude! Is it loud? Or did yo box it up to decrease the noise level?

born2killspam said:

With good DIY skills like you obviously have, any fan can be made very quiet as long as its not the actual motor creating the sound.. Insulating and vibration buffering of a 250cfm bathroom fan for instance can make it nearly silent when you tack a carbon filter to the output.. You can't really insulate the motor safely though without serious overheating risks.. xogenic had some great ideas.. I think he was talking about opening up the back such that air can get out fairly freely but most light gets blocked before leaking since air handles corners differently..
pac-mans point is also pretty critical.. How freely can air move through those door slats? A silenced fan up high in the closet itself.. Ideally properly ducted through the ceiling would solve your woes in conjunction with the other advice..
You'd still want a filter on the box itself though because you'd need a prett giant fan to create enough negative pressure in the closet to avoid odour leaks into the room.. If sound is critical, I can only assume odor control is more critical..

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Well, I really can't modify/drill in the closet at all cause I am in an apartment. Right now, I'm just stuck on what fan to purchase. I have to get one soon. I have my ladies (I hope) sitting under CFL's in the closet at the moment.

If you have no choice but to vent the closet through those slats then focus on a real blower that can handle alot of back-pressure.. A couple hundred cfm rating atleast..
It is a closet, you could cut and patch well enough later, but the ducting may be impossible.. With stealth concerns, and your other limitations you're kind of between a rock and a hard place.. Could you increase the cabinet stealth/ventilation and put it in a larger area than the closet, or leave the door wide open, and just run a bedroom oscillating fan that is strategically placed for all around air movement like a ton of ppl have in their bedroom..

I would reccomend getting a S&P TD Series Inline Fan. They are quiet and reliable. and very cheap.

Read this International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Quietest 100-150 CFM 4" Exhaust Fan? Elicent Inline or Dayton/ActiveAir Blower?

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7th1der said:

I'm diggin the fan dude! Is it loud? Or did yo box it up to decrease the noise level?

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Mine is slightly different, rated @ 10db higher than that but noise isn't an issue for me, my attic don't let no sound out! It's not very loud up there, you just hear a whooshing noise from the end of the ducting where all the air is being sucked in!
I boxed one up for my friend a couple of years back, think it was about 200cfm 4" and made next to no noise, it wasn't very loud to begin with but he needed silence as it was in his wardrobe.