Iran never saw it coming

stickyicky77 said:

Not when they pay .68 cents a gallon for fuel and the west pays $4+ a gallon. They have cheap natural gas and crude oil for producing electricity. There is no reason for Iran to have nuclear capability. The last thing the world needs is a bunch of crazy extremist with nukes. The only reason India and Pakistan got nukes was because the technology was stolen from the US and was being sold on the black market. Iran also has plenty of sun and wind for solar energy.

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thats probably cause they own the gas, why would they charge themselves more?

stickyicky77 said:

Not when they pay .68 cents a gallon for fuel and the west pays $4+ a gallon. They have cheap natural gas and crude oil for producing electricity. There is no reason for Iran to have nuclear capability. The last thing the world needs is a bunch of crazy extremist with nukes. The only reason India and Pakistan got nukes was because the technology was stolen from the US and was being sold on the black market. Iran also has plenty of sun and wind for solar energy.

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Comparing solar and wind power to nuclear power shows your lack of knowledge on the subject.. the cost/output isn't even comparable.. if it was don't you think the U.S. would be talking about more solar/wind power than building more nuclear power plants?

And using natural gas and crude oil for producing electricity? Yes.. let's waste VERY slow renewing resources for running light bulbs..

would Obama go along with this invading ,war munger shit??? of course the 'real bosses'
give the orders and even make or break him or who ever they want to be the president.
random read

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HotNSexyMILF said:

Comparing solar and wind power to nuclear power shows your lack of knowledge on the subject.. the cost/output isn't even comparable.. if it was don't you think the U.S. would be talking about more solar/wind power than building more nuclear power plants?

And using natural gas and crude oil for producing electricity? Yes.. let's waste VERY slow renewing resources for running light bulbs..

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Uhhhhhh, we are. (acting like idiots)

PS- Iran imports almost all of it's gasoline. Why don't they build another refinery instead of whining about nuclear?

Iran Guzzles Gas at Its Own Cost
Another reason: The oil-rich country pays billions to import gasoline.
Because Iran's refineries can pump out only 10 1/2 million gallons of gasoline a day, and Iranian motorists burn 17 million gallons, the gap is filled by gasoline purchased at full price from other countries.
The bill is huge. The $4.5 billion Iran's parliament recently authorized to buy imported gasoline is up 50 percent from the last fiscal year, and now stands at almost 8 percent of the national budget, according to Faulks' calculation. The additional money was found in a rainy-day account -- one funded by the sale of Iranian crude at windfall prices.

Hey We, are you getting your ideas about 'Zionist Jews' from "Mein Kampf"? -Spitzerd

We TaRdED said:

Nope! I never heard of that person in my life.

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Hahahahaha

ccodiane said:

Uhhhhhh, we are. (acting like idiots)

PS- Iran imports almost all of it's gasoline. Why don't they build another refinery instead of whining about nuclear?

Iran Guzzles Gas at Its Own Cost
Another reason: The oil-rich country pays billions to import gasoline.
Because Iran's refineries can pump out only 10 1/2 million gallons of gasoline a day, and Iranian motorists burn 17 million gallons, the gap is filled by gasoline purchased at full price from other countries.
The bill is huge. The $4.5 billion Iran's parliament recently authorized to buy imported gasoline is up 50 percent from the last fiscal year, and now stands at almost 8 percent of the national budget, according to Faulks' calculation. The additional money was found in a rainy-day account -- one funded by the sale of Iranian crude at windfall prices.

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Who are they buying it from?


If it was the Saudis, IROONNNIIICCC

The world market. Same as us.

not really too proficient on economics, sorry

The same as weed. If you grow it where you live, say Cali, but the price in Cali is 200/ounce and the price in new york is 600/ounce, where will you sell it? Now imagine countries instead of states, and oil instead of weed. It goes to the highest bidder.

So do oil countries sell their oil to a market who then sells it to other countries, or is direct transactions?

mjetta said:

So do oil countries sell their oil to a market who then sells it to other countries, or is direct transactions?

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It is mostly sold to "dealers"/speculators, middle men and woman, who sell contracts based on future supply and future demand. If I'm in New York, and your in Cali, you probably don't want to sell quarters in New York. Instead, you give me a deal on a pound today, and then I break it up, and sell it to my customers at a higher price, per unit, than what I bought it for. Say I got a QP left from your original pound, and you are supposed to bring me another pound tomorrow. Then I hear you got busted and I won't be getting that pound I thought I was getting. My New York prices just went up. Supply and demand. Supply is diminished but demand is still high. This is the free market at work.

So why dont we just switch to direct transcations? wouldnt that save a few bucks on the price of gas

mjetta said:

So why dont we just switch to direct transcations? wouldnt that save a few bucks on the price of gas

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Because then you, growing in Cali, (you're busy, right?), would have to travel around the country slinging small bags, quarters and dimes, to the highest bidder. Why not find somebody to do the slingin' for you, a dealer, and focus on the product you are trying to produce? You're a grower, remember?

In essence, a dealer likes to hold on to lots of weed, to always keep the customer happy; a grower wants to get it the fuck out of their house, as fast as possible, so they can grow more. If all the people looking for quarters and dimes had to wait for me, the grower, to harvest before they got their stuff, they would start looking elsewhere. For a more reliable dealer, who is always picking up the pounds. And if they couldn't find another dealer, the price would sky rocket before my big harvest, as there is nothing left to buy except for $20 joints. And after I harvest, the price would collapse, because everybody would have plenty now.

Speculators give the market a level of stability it otherwise wouldn't have.

medicineman said:

No speculators try and buy up all the pounds for 50 cents and hold on to them to create a false shortage and then dump them all for a dollar, then when the market is flooded they again go on a buying spree as the price of pounds is low, In the case of oil, they just buy everything they can for cheap then wait untill the market is about to collapse and release it for a huge profit. They are the middle men that are raping our planet, and causing 4.00+ a gallon gas. Gasoline has the distribution network already in place and was doing just fine without oil speculators. They jumped into the middle of the oil trading and started hoarding future oil shipments, driving up the price and have been offloading them at a terrific profit, scoundrels all.

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Idiot. You see how much an ounce of weed goes for these days? Should we kill all the dealers and enslave all the growers? Then you'll really see high prices.

And by the way, idiot, speculators can make just as much money when prices drop as when prices rise. You can bet either way. It's called selling short. I bet you didn't know this.

i meant the oil producers.

why doesnt Saudi for example just sell direct to the U.S, wouldnt they both make more money this way?

Arguing economics with idiots is like arguing man made global warming with idiots. You know what you know and can't be convinced that you don't know shit about shit, because you really don't know shit about shit. So you can't be convinced that you don't know...............you get it. (not you Med, you probably don't)