Irish Boys Return Of The Inferno With The Spectra 180's

Someguy15

Someguy15

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Awesome. It's basically like waterfarms with the top drip, I guess no dwc down below though. But this will work awesome, can't wait to see it in action.
 
irishboy

irishboy

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Someguy15 said:
Awesome. It's basically like waterfarms with the top drip, I guess no dwc down below though. But this will work awesome, can't wait to see it in action.
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ya bro i was going to go flood and drain but wanted to go a different route and i also wanted to save allot of money on nutes with a way smaller res. its crazy how much more water was needed for the flood and drain and i can see why you have ur milk jugs on the tray, very smart bro.

this setup should allot tons of O2 to the roots and a constant supply of water and nutes for the roots vs every so many hours. one thing i like about trays is we can do some many different things.lol

when i do more plants i will for sure go flood and drain but for 6 i will try out this setup. i think these air pots will do great.
 
Someguy15

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irishboy said:
ya bro i was going to go flood and drain but wanted to go a different route and i also wanted to save allot of money on nutes with a way smaller res. its crazy how much more water was needed for the flood and drain and i can see why you have ur milk jugs on the tray, very smart bro.

this setup should allot tons of O2 to the roots and a constant supply of water and nutes for the roots vs every so many hours. one thing i like about trays is we can do some many different things.lol

when i do more plants i will for sure go flood and drain but for 6 i will try out this setup. i think these air pots will do great.
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is it recycling then? Only thing that would concern with me recirc and a small rez is ph or ec swings.
 
irishboy

irishboy

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Someguy15 said:
is it recycling then? Only thing that would concern with me recirc and a small rez is ph or ec swings.
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ya it is and it dose worry me a little, i really dont know what to expect because ive never done hydro before. this is why i have friends like you to help me along my way on the new grow:wink:
 
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schwagness

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irishboy said:
here is my new drip system. got the 6" halo drip rings that have 50 something holes. instead of spending $160 on a tray stand i went to the store and bought a 2'x4 table for $30.lol. everything ran real smooth. each ring has a flow adjuster to make the water even on all rings. here is some pics and also some of one of my buds thats not yet dry but getting their. i have 2x4" flat round air stones in the res with a 400GPH pump mixing the res and then the pump that runs the drippers, this system uses very little water also. have all 4 lights up.. the bad is my plants will be shorter since i lost head room but i wanted to start learning how to get shorter foot ball size buds
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It looks like a brilliant setup Irish. I am jealous as a mofo! Looking forward to the final totals from this grow & as always, eagerly awaiting your next grow journal. :)
 
Jman305

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irishboy said:
here is my new drip system. got the 6" halo drip rings that have 50 something holes. instead of spending $160 on a tray stand i went to the store and bought a 2'x4 table for $30.lol. everything ran real smooth. each ring has a flow adjuster to make the water even on all rings. here is some pics and also some of one of my buds thats not yet dry but getting their. i have 2x4" flat round air stones in the res with a 400GPH pump mixing the res and then the pump that runs the drippers, this system uses very little water also. have all 4 lights up.. the bad is my plants will be shorter since i lost head room but i wanted to start learning how to get shorter foot ball size buds
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Setup looks great man. How much gph are you estimating? And is that lights on and off? or just on?

Also... how did you arrive at this system using less water as compared to a flood and drain? I mean I can kinda see it in my head already but was there any math involved on your end? I like having numbers to make comparisons on cost/benefit ratios. :)
 
irishboy

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schwagness said:
It looks like a brilliant setup Irish. I am jealous as a mofo! Looking forward to the final totals from this grow & as always, eagerly awaiting your next grow journal. :)
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thanks bro. just got dry weight and it was a little over 9oz from the 6 plants. the thing that kinda robbed me was those two runts on the right side that were stunted. but at the end i am very happy because i did not even think i was going to get a harvest from the 100F+ temps they went threw let alone grade A+ buds, if i would have known they would have flowered i wouldnt have flipped them so short at 10".lol. the heat has messed up a few of my grows so its nice to finally get another one under my belt.
Jman305 said:
Setup looks great man. How much gph are you estimating? And is that lights on and off? or just on?

Also... how did you arrive at this system using less water as compared to a flood and drain? I mean I can kinda see it in my head already but was there any math involved on your end? I like having numbers to make comparisons on cost/benefit ratios. :)
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like i was saying the other day i dont believe in GPW because of the many things that effect it, but i got around 9.3oz total and used 450w on this grow so you can do GPW if you like?

i know it uses less water because i can see it in the res i have, think about a big table has to fill up to a certain height then srain vs the water running right threw the top of the pot and going right back to the res. from some math others have done it was about a 60% savings on nutes and water from what they told me when they did it the same way.
Shwagbag said:
Love it! Put some plants in that mofo. FCJ
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i am waiting for the new girls to root, its a friends own cut called bubble kush
 
Someguy15

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I use GPW mainly to gauge myself grow to grow. If nothing has changed besides say strains or layout, any single variable at a time, it's a good benchmark. But using it comparing grower to grower is apples to oranges.
 
irishboy

irishboy

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Someguy15 said:
I use GPW mainly to gauge myself grow to grow. If nothing has changed besides say strains or layout, any single variable at a time, it's a good benchmark. But using it comparing grower to grower is apples to oranges.
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i feel the same way because its all about each persons condition's, mediums, style, nutes strains CO2, temps, water quality, veg time, light hours used in veg, hydro or soil, LST, SOG or SCROG, just tons of stuff. i would only use it for a bench mark if i did the same strain. but GPW is only good for like you said IMO and their for i dont use it with my grows since things change all the time with me.

i wish i have done this strain before so i have an idea on the yield? i am happy because my buddy just pulled 6 plants under a 1k HPS and got 8oz so it made me feel better since i used less watts.lol

i am just happy my girls live threw the crazy summer heat.lol. i think i got this summer 100F+ temps growing thing down and figured it out? we will see ext year?

i just go by weight per plant or total weight over how many plants i have
 
Shwagbag

Shwagbag

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irishboy said:
i feel the same way because its all about each persons condition's, mediums, style, nutes strains CO2, temps, water quality, veg time, light hours used in veg, hydro or soil, LST, SOG or SCROG, just tons of stuff. i would only use it for a bench mark if i did the same strain. but GPW is only good for like you said IMO and their for i dont use it with my grows since things change all the time with me.

i wish i have done this strain before so i have an idea on the yield? i am happy because my buddy just pulled 6 plants under a 1k HPS and got 8oz so it made me feel better since i used less watts.lol

i am just happy my girls live threw the crazy summer heat.lol. i think i got this summer 100F+ temps growing thing down and figured it out? we will see ext year?

i just go by weight per plant or total weight over how many plants i have
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Hell yeah I would be happy too, I would expect a pound + from 1k HPS with 6 plants, assuming he's growing in a 4 x 4 or 5 x 5 space. You just never know what kind of yielder a plant is until you grow it out like you said. I have some shit that is fire as hell but I wouldn't want to fill my box with them lol.
 
irishboy

irishboy

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Shwagbag said:
Hell yeah I would be happy too, I would expect a pound + from 1k HPS with 6 plants, assuming he's growing in a 4 x 4 or 5 x 5 space. You just never know what kind of yielder a plant is until you grow it out like you said. I have some shit that is fire as hell but I wouldn't want to fill my box with them lol.
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ya it was platinum bubba he grew. it was fire though just not that great of yeild and he had all the space he could ask for a whole bed room.lol

i really dont trip off yield as much any more quality its the main thing i am after. you dont have quality you dont have shit IMO.

this next grow i am going to be trying out different training and pruning methods to get shot plants with buds the size of footballs like my friend dose he just wont tell me how he dose it. each plant is like 12" tall and atleast 2.5oz per plant size of a pro football and solid
 
Jman305

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irishboy said:
thanks bro. just got dry weight and it was a little over 9oz from the 6 plants. the thing that kinda robbed me was those two runts on the right side that were stunted. but at the end i am very happy because i did not even think i was going to get a harvest from the 100F+ temps they went threw let alone grade A+ buds, if i would have known they would have flowered i wouldnt have flipped them so short at 10".lol. the heat has messed up a few of my grows so its nice to finally get another one under my belt.

like i was saying the other day i dont believe in GPW because of the many things that effect it, but i got around 9.3oz total and used 450w on this grow so you can do GPW if you like?

i know it uses less water because i can see it in the res i have, think about a big table has to fill up to a certain height then srain vs the water running right threw the top of the pot and going right back to the res. from some math others have done it was about a 60% savings on nutes and water from what they told me when they did it the same way.

i am waiting for the new girls to root, its a friends own cut called bubble kush
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Thats a lot of savings, man! I wasn't asknig gpw friend, gph you're using with your drip set up? Trying to figure out costs for my local area. The lights on/lights off thing was asking if you water at night as well or only during the day? Didn't know if you kept your lights on at night to save on heat... even though LEDs don't produce much. If you did that and had night/day reversed I would think the root mass would dry up during the day (plants night time) and so you would compensate for running either at the same or a reduced rate. Idk though... that's why I'm asking.
 
Jman305

Jman305

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irishboy said:
ya it was platinum bubba he grew. it was fire though just not that great of yeild and he had all the space he could ask for a whole bed room.lol

i really dont trip off yield as much any more quality its the main thing i am after. you dont have quality you dont have shit IMO.

this next grow i am going to be trying out different training and pruning methods to get shot plants with buds the size of footballs like my friend dose he just wont tell me how he dose it. each plant is like 12" tall and atleast 2.5oz per plant size of a pro football and solid
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That's nice to know about the 1k hps comparison. Thanks for that. There's a guy on here that has an LST / cropping style that seems to yeild very good results. I believe its stickied under LST. He also has a link with in that thread that goes to a Scrog grow and how to do one of those. (Idk if you do) I've seen some crazy scrog grows. People have pulled a QP off one plant before. And with your superior lighting and mad skillzz I think you could pull 6 oz per plant :blsmoke: .
 
irishboy

irishboy

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Jman305 said:
Thats a lot of savings, man! I wasn't asknig gpw friend, gph you're using with your drip set up? Trying to figure out costs for my local area. The lights on/lights off thing was asking if you water at night as well or only during the day? Didn't know if you kept your lights on at night to save on heat... even though LEDs don't produce much. If you did that and had night/day reversed I would think the root mass would dry up during the day (plants night time) and so you would compensate for running either at the same or a reduced rate. Idk though... that's why I'm asking.
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right now i am using a 400gph pump for my 6 site 2x4' tray and its a good match but i do need to run a 3/4-1" drain my 1/2" isnt big enough to drain that fast. no big deal.

the other stuff i havent really mad up my mind. ive been told its best not to water at night but i think thats more for mold so i am not worried about that and in the summer i would have to feed at night. as of right now i think i will feed every few hours at night and maybe a 24-0 veg time? still have to think the things out.

Jman305 said:
That's nice to know about the 1k hps comparison. Thanks for that. There's a guy on here that has an LST / cropping style that seems to yeild very good results. I believe its stickied under LST. He also has a link with in that thread that goes to a Scrog grow and how to do one of those. (Idk if you do) I've seen some crazy scrog grows. People have pulled a QP off one plant before. And with your superior lighting and mad skillzz I think you could pull 6 oz per plant :blsmoke: .
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shoot me a link please.
i do know how to scrog and ive seen a plant hit 1lbs from a 400w hps with CO2 in a DWC bucket with SCROG. its on the to do list some day. i am a big fan of LST
 
Jman305

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I love DWC scrogs. I'm thinking thats what I'm going to do... If I can ever find the other link I'll get the guy up that did a fogger in a rubbermaid DWC it was the shit. Constant misting of the root mass right below the plant. He used a supersonic fogger to do it. One like they use to clean jewlery with. I'll edit and add the LST and Scrog links.
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/282177-enter-scrog-scroggers-united-post.html
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/369528-low-stress-training-lst-guide-4.html
 
irishboy

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got some new lights in from Mike today. i have not open them yet their at my safe shipping spot. but from what ive been told their the same exact specs and color as the 2010's theirs even no white leds in these and are about 3-4% more power then the 2010's models. ive been told they use 140w's? but what ive been told the colors/NM's are the same thing so their should be a difference. even though i did not have issues with the last models i had i will use these along with a few others to see what they do? the only issue is i haven't got my new clones yet dude is lagging but i understand its the busy time of year so i will wait untill next week and see what happens?
 
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Heretic

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The last lights you used in this thread had white leds, correct? It's interesting he went back. Do you know if there were more tests done?

I finally got in contact with him about getting new power supply's for my 290's. I tried starting high, at 40", and letting the plants grow into the lights. It took longer, but still burned them. That, combined with powdery mildew I didn't catch soon enough, made me scrap the latest grow. He said the new units would go from 315w down to 230w. With the 315w, the PAR value was just too high for the chlorophyll to handle apparently.

Anyway, thanks for posting all your grows. It keeps me motivated to do better in my own. :)
 
Shwagbag

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Last time i talked with him he had tests and said he would send the results but I need to get back on him for the results. Good luck with the new lights Irish.
 
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