Is cannabis use a sin?

BigJon said:

Did Jesus say it or did Paul write it? I'm not sure myself.

What I do know is that you're right about homie being a rebel.

"Give to Cesar what is Cesars, and give to God what is God's."

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I'm pretty sure it was Jesus, but we can never be sure at all. Since Jesus seems to have been illiterate (Didn't write SHIT)... even though he was full of old Jewish written wisdom from a prophet about 200 years before himself...

For some reason the Disciples were the only ones that wrote down anything Jesus said.

The only other record of Jesus in ANYONES records, is Roman Records: "Fueding between the Jews"

And did ya'll know the Jews didn't accept Jesus as Christ because he WASN'T.


Jews (The ORIGINAL CHRISTIANS) Christ is a Warlord, that will bring them back to the promise land. Jesus just said some nice stuff, that's it. He didn't get Israel back.

Seed bearing plants are part of dietary laws, but apparently drunkards and intoxicants will make you burn in hell....who cares though right, nobody follows the dietary laws anyway.

coffeesick said:

Seed bearing plants are part of dietary laws, but apparently drunkards and intoxicants will make you burn in hell....who cares though right, nobody follows the dietary laws anyway.

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There was no real concept of hell pre "Dark Ages".

abandonconflict said:

OK first off, this thread isn't the place for bashing any religion. Please, leave opinions about the religion overall out of this. I would like to hear BIBLICAL arguments, for or against the use of cannabis. Does Christianity consider it a sin?

I happen to be an atheist, but I am curious nonetheless if a case can be made, within the scope of biblical cannon, that it is not at all a sin to partake of the mota. If you believe it is, by all means, expound. All I ask is that we respect each other's beliefs.

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As a Christian growing up I thought it was a sin. I still kind of do, but only if it leads to addiction. The thing is there are a lot of other things that are much more addictive that Christians use, like caffeine, fatty food, etc. I try to explain to other Christians that these things actually kill a lot of people in America each year, mainly obesity. But I think not just in Christianity, but in society we view all "drugs" as being really bad for you and they all got grouped up together. Most people do not spend the time looking into the medicinal side of weed that shows no brain damage or lung cancer or it making you a crazy murderer.

I also think a lot of Christians don't care to look into it further. I never really cared either tbh until I started taking it for pain.

Now does it actually say anywhere in the bible that smoking weed is a sin? No, but a lot of people could interpret it that way because of addiction.

If you are looking for a specific verse to say to another Christian, I would go with Matthew 7:1,2 - “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Anyways hope this helps, GL.

not a sin
show me where in the bible does it say. "marijuana is a sin"

Finshaggy said:

There was no real concept of hell pre "Dark Ages".

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What about the Indo European (Norse/Angle/Saxon...etc) "Hel" (correct spelling)
The Greeks' Hades?
Maybe not places of eternal agony etc, but certainly places of the dead that ain't no fun...?

sworth said:

What about the Indo European (Norse/Angle/Saxon...etc) "Hel" (correct spelling)
The Greeks' Hades?
Maybe not places of eternal agony etc, but certainly places of the dead that ain't no fun...?

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"Hel" was a deity I think. And even the land she ruled over differed from the Christian "Hell".
But what I meant was, there was just purgatory until Jesus unlocked heaven, and Hell was invented in the Dark ages.

But what's "purgatory" then?
Hell as a place of punishment (as opposed to a state of "non bliss") to anyone with an ounce (lid?)of compassion is ,imo, ludicrous, but I think it is a post dark age concept.
This kind of 'punishment/control' thinking started with Emperor Constantine...and the whole rise of the orthodox Christian church ?
And every place one reads "hell" in the Bible it is actually correctly translated as "gehenna" or "hel".Gehenna (spelling?) being pretty much Jerusalem's burning rubbish tip of the time, and Hel (as in a Greek concept) as merely a place of the dead.
Which is where we are both saying the same thing with differing words?
"HELL" ;does not exist!!??
When did Jesus unlock Heaven? According to my calculations you have Hell and Purgatory double booked..
Anyway, you and I concur genericly; there is no Hell.
A state of non-existence then?
That'd be hell for you or I I wager!
(Am I still talking?...Bloody hell! (Pun intended!) I may grow more Sativas!!! lol!!
Edit;Hel A deity and a place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(location)
Odin rides down to Hel on "Sleipnir", his 8 legged horse, to bring his murdered Son back from the dead!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleipnir

sworth said:

But what's "purgatory" then?
Hell as a place of punishment (as opposed to a state of "non bliss") to anyone with an ounce (lid?)of compassion is ,imo, ludicrous, but I think it is a post dark age concept.
This kind of 'punishment/control' thinking started with Emperor Constantine...and the whole rise of the orthodox Christian church ?
And every place one reads "hell" in the Bible it is actually correctly translated as "gehenna" or "hel".Gehenna (spelling?) being pretty much Jerusalem's burning rubbish tip of the time, and Hel (as in a Greek concept) as merely a place of the dead.
Which is where we are both saying the same thing with differing words?
"HELL" ;does not exist!!??
When did Jesus unlock Heaven? According to my calculations you have Hell and Purgatory double booked..
Anyway, you and I concur genericly; there is no Hell.
A state of non-existence then?
That'd be hell for you or I I wager!
(Am I still talking?...Bloody hell! (Pun intended!) I may grow more Sativas!!! lol!!
Edit;Hel A deity and a place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(location)
Odin rides down to Hel on "Sleipnir", his 8 legged horse, to bring his murdered Son back from the dead!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleipnir

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The idea of a nasty hell is very very old. cn
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/hell.htm

Not a sin at all! Cannabis' benefits outweigh the negatives (none)

If it kills cancer and produces new brain cells, why should it be a sin to use it?

Culture tampers with religion, they don't go together.

I don't know which religious group you belong to, but in our Quran, cannabis is never mentioned.

Based on the Quran:

Alcohol consumption is a sin: because it kills brain cells, turns you into something you're not, hurts your organs, etc...
Consumption of pork is a sin: science shows pigs have weak immune systems that don't digest food properly and they eat filth- that is then stored in their tissue.
Adultery is a huge sin because you know why.
stealing is a sin
etc..
etc...

Nowhere is good old cannabis mentioned as being bad. So go for it! If you're Christian, it's allowed too. Not sure about Judaism, but it's practically the same, so I think it's allowed with them too.

Based on the Qur'an all people that don't believe in Allah should be killed lol

im sorry if i offend any religious people in the next few sentences.
if you go to books that have been altered over thousands of years to find advice on harmless drugs, your looking in the absolute wrong place, you couldnt be looking in a worse place. religion is just another part of culture, a way to make your views on life less open, culture and religion restrict your mind from believing outside beliefs. hard headed religious people arent the people who are fit to judge what is a sin, or in more simplistic words, whats right "in the eyes of god". remember, theres thousands of "gods" that religions believe in, all religions stole from another religion and tweaked the story a bit, and dont get me started on how false these books have been proven to be... if there wasnt a new testament who knows what the fuckin catholics would be doing to people nowadays. anyone looking into ancient texts asking for knowledge on whats morally right is close minded, what is right to you is wrong to others but nobody can judge whats right. science is how you should determine which drugs are okay, not this propaganda we call the bible, quaran or whatever book you name, they're all another way to separate people and create conflict, take a look a jerusalem if you think religion is good.

Odin told me, through runes, that its not a sin. you may still enter Valhalla.
by Thor's hammer, i swear.

BA142 said:

Based on the Qur'an all people that don't believe in Allah should be killed lol

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False.

“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And God hears and knows all things.” (Quran 2:256)

The Christians were stoned as shit. Angels, Burning Bushes and "Jesus' teachings". They were blazed.

No, and who cares if it is... This is what google says the entire list of sins is. And I think that I probably sin about every 5 minutes or so.
CLIC

It just could be that aliens brought the plants and not just seeds,we are all from the same place.

This has been on my mind for a few years. I do not believe in religion,I do believe in the trinity and every word in the BIBLE.My relationship with JESUS is what is important to me.Cannabis has so much good about it,and it was mentioned in the BIBLE,it was in the annoiting oil that I wonder if we had spent the time on cannabis that we spent on the pills(that are killing us) where would we be now.Back to the question,No I do not think cannabis use is a sin. Abuse is another story.

wow i did not know cannabis was in the annoiting oil...thansk for that