Is the dream over for the Dreamers?

Jimdamick

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Those who grow up with all the money in the world somehow don't generally turn out to be very good human beings.

Warren Buffet's son is an exception which, if anything, proves the rule.
But then again, you have self made billionaires that grew up in relatively modest means, like Gates and Zuckerberg that give away literally billions of dollars to charity.

Why are they so generous?

Oh that's right , there're Democrats.

Fucking Republicans are vampires, sucking the blood of the common man
 
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ttystikk

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"They're foreigners" so that makes them "lazy underachievers"? If that aint racist, I learned nothing living in Alabama all those years. Been called an underachiever all through school, had enough assets at 45 to not need a job. Bigger pile at 55. Underachieving in early life didn't slow me down much.
You got it backwards, underachiever;

I said that DACA recipients graduate at higher rates, go to college at higher rates and are employed at higher rates than native born Americans- and I never once mentioned race.

Maybe your problem is that you never learned to read for comprehension?
 

ttystikk

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But then again, you have self made billionaires that grew up in modest means, like Gates and Zuckerberg that give away literally billions of dollars to charity.

Why are they so generous?

Oh that's right , there're Democrats.

Fucking Republicans are vampires, sucking the blood of the common man
Bill Gates' family was anything but poor, and yes he's an example of someone trying to do right by his fortune.

If you take everyone with a net worth of over a million, or even ten million, the story looks sharply different.

This isn't meant to disagree with you; those of means who want to contribute to society in positive ways should be encouraged and rewarded!

And those who don't should also be encouraged to make a positive contribution, by paying their fair share of taxes at the very least.

By fair share, I mean that wages for labor should have the lowest tax rates, not the highest.
 
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StonerCol

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Gates and Zuckerberg that give away literally billions of dollars to charity.
My issue with people like those 2 is that a lot of the money they give away is actually avoided tax that should have gone to people who need it. They then give this money away to make themselves look like saints when in reality they are just as parasitic as many others. They are self-serving assholes imo.
 

ttystikk

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My issue with people like those 2 is that a lot of the money they give away is actually avoided tax that should have gone to people who need it. They then give this money away to make themselves look like saints when in reality they are just as parasitic as many others. They are self-serving assholes imo.
This is true, hence the need for taxes to be higher on investments and other forms of wealth generation than on labor.

And outlaw loopholes that protect family fortunes from inheritance taxes! There's a good fucking reason why the Founding Fathers enacted them and we need to remember it, lest we end up with the same fucked up aristocratic society of mostly serfs and peasants they worked so hard to deliver their new country from.
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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You got it backwards, underachiever;

I said that DACA recipients graduate at higher rates, go to college at higher rates and are employed at higher rates than native born Americans- and I never once mentioned race.

Maybe your problem is that you never learned to read for comprehension?
That's comfortable retired underachiever. Sorry I didn't consider some FOREIGNERS might be caucs., they don't seem to come here. Reading = speed, comprehension, retention. Speed is my weak point but high comp. and retention require a loss of speed. I love to see a kids face when you explain this and reading sort becomes clear to them.
 
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Unclebaldrick

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Bill Gates' family was anything but poor, and yes he's an example of someone trying to do right by his fortune.

If you take everyone with a net worth of over a million, or even ten million, the story looks sharply different.

This isn't meant to disagree with you; those of means who want to contribute to society in positive ways should be encouraged and rewarded!

And those who don't should also be encouraged to make a positive contribution, by paying their fair share of taxes at the very least.

By fair share, I mean that wages for labor should have the lowest tax rates, not the highest.
Keep in mind that Gates is an innovator. Trump was just a landlord. Big difference.
 

zeddd

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Taxes are for paying interest on national debt owned by the bankers, stop this stupid shit that most tax goes to some good, fuk taxes
 

Jimdamick

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My issue with people like those 2 is that a lot of the money they give away is actually avoided tax that should have gone to people who need it. They then give this money away to make themselves look like saints when in reality they are just as parasitic as many others. They are self-serving assholes imo.
The world is full of parasites, like our President, but at least they have paid their taxes without an audit,unlike the "mandatory" reviews of Trumps taxes that was initiated due to the previous endless bullshit on his returns
The guy is a thief, and I cant wait for the (they will) tax returns to become public.
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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My issue with people like those 2 is that a lot of the money they give away is actually avoided tax that should have gone to people who need it. They then give this money away to make themselves look like saints when in reality they are just as parasitic as many others. They are self-serving assholes imo.
Billionairs like Gates give away money to lower their worth. Otherwise the confiscatory Estate Tax would take ,what, 90% and wasted.....er....spent by the bureacrcy.
 
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