Is The Mars Hydro a good led?

Alright so I decided for my light set up led's would be my better option.However,I been searching and I came across the Mars Hydro pretty cheap for 300w bout 69.99 on eBay not to mention I'm only growing two plants for personal medical usage.Only downside I've been hearing a few negatives about the light...Anyone knows if the light is truly any good or not?If not any recommendations?If so only one would do good for 2 plants right?

I have seen these in action. If it's not right above a single plant it's almost useless. If you put the light inbetween 2 plants the majority of it's output will be going directly downward and between your 2 plants. For the price you can definitely grow with it but I'd use 1 of them for 1 plant and in flowering you might even want to add a few cfl's around the edges where the led doesn't reach properly.

Of course, there are plenty of better options but nothing even remotely close to $69.99.

I'd still rather buy a 4 pack of either of these than have that shit warranty of theirs but you support who you want.

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ExpertRookie said:

Alright so I decided for my light set up led's would be my better option.However,I been searching and I came across the Mars Hydro pretty cheap for 300w bout 69.99 on eBay not to mention I'm only growing two plants for personal medical usage.Only downside I've been hearing a few negatives about the light...Anyone knows if the light is truly any good or not?If not any recommendations?If so only one would do good for 2 plants right?

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pretty damn sure they are nowhere close to 300W

That'll draw around 180W of which 70% will be heat so you'll have around 50W of light. That's one sqare foot, and don't expect penetration those are single 3W diodes run at about 50%.

So it's really not worth it.

50W of par is more like 3 SF not 1

It's ok for 2x2 foot.

You tell me if mars300 works or not. Most people in this forum have never even used these kind of LEDs but are the first to shit all over them without any actual experience.

And before anyone tries commenting "airy buds" "low yields", or whatever, this single plant yielded over 120 grams. Ignore the paper warriors and look at some photo evidence.

Didn't you add CFL?

frica said:

Didn't you add CFL?

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Yes, 2 reptile cfls to boost UVB.

All i know is this setup destroyed my AIO 150w HPS.

The mars is in the veg room now since I have CXBs for my flower tent.

Needless to say, the mars performed better than anyone in this forum claimed, and I never once had a single issue that apparently so many in this forum have experienced.

The only issue I found with the mars is it's horizontal spread is shit. I noticed a lot of stretch on the outer edges of the tent. People just need to be aware of what the mars CAN cover effectively.

I can't even count how many people I've seen on this forum try and and use 2 mars300 panels to cover a 4x4 tent and come on this forum and bitch and complain how they didn't come to close to matching their 600w HPS. Those people are idiots and have flooded these forums with alot of bullshit information.

It's not a bad light, especially being under 100 dollars.

Actually some of us have used Mars Hydro lights, and yes it's possible to grow huge amounts, can I ask how long you vegged that plant?

Zulunature said:

Actually some of us have used Mars Hydro lights, and yes it's possible to grow huge amounts, can I ask how long you vegged that plant?

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30 days. Well, 44-45 to be technical.

The first 14 days soon as a seed breaks ground I count as a seedling stage, so really im "vegging" them for 6 weeks.

Well, I don't think you could fit more than 120 grams under a single Mars hydro panel. Sure the panels grow weed, but so do all the other types of lighting. And a 6 week veg for a 120g plant sounds like a long time.

Psyphish said:

Well, I don't think you could fit more than 120 grams under a single Mars hydro panel. Sure the panels grow weed, but so do all the other types of lighting. And a 6 week veg for a 120g plant sounds like a long time.

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2 weeks of seedling, 30 days of veg is a long time?

Honestly, I could've pulled more off it if my wife didn't insist on me growing a xmas tree. It's untopped, untrained.

I believe pushed the mars300 as far as it could go. I've yet to see anyone else in these forums match or even top my mars grow.

The real problem with people using mars in these forums is they try to cover TOO MUCH area with them, then bitch about how they can't flower for shit.

95% of the mars hate on this forum stems from user stupidity, not the light itself. The lights are fine IF USED CORRECTLY.

superbak3d said:

2 weeks of seedling, 30 days of veg is a long time?

Honestly, I could've pulled more off it if my wife didn't insist on me growing a xmas tree. It's untopped, untrained.

I believe pushed the mars300 as far as it could go. I've yet to see anyone else in these forums match or even top my mars grow.

The real problem with people using mars in these forums is they try to cover TOO MUCH area with them, then bitch about how they can't flower for shit.

95% of the mars hate on this forum stems from user stupidity, not the light itself. The lights are fine IF USED CORRECTLY.

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Yeah they work fine for small grows, that's a nice plant you grew. I used to have a couple of 300w Mars panels but I gave them away, I increased grow size and wanted HID and white light.

Exactly. "Small" grows.

While you can use them on larger grows, you have to be aware you need a lot of them, and that's where the problem arises for many people on this forum. The cost to cover the larger areas quickly adds up to the point where you could just run HPS at a fraction of the cost.

My problem with any panel using epistar diodes, is there's too much false information floating around, by users and the manufacturers.

For 1, it's not a 300w panel. Yes 60x5 = 300, but at 60% efficiency, the real wattage is 130. Some claim as high as 180, but that's again MORE false information. They draw 132 watts.

So you see people buying 2 mars300s, assuming that's equal to a 600w HPS, putting them in a 4x4 tent and wondering why only 260 watts isn't matching 600 watts.

superbak3d said:

Exactly. "Small" grows.

While you can use them on larger grows, you have to be aware you need a lot of them, and that's where the problem arises for many people on this forum. The cost to cover the larger areas quickly adds up to the point where you could just run HPS at a fraction of the cost.

My problem with any panel using epistar diodes, is there's too much false information floating around, by users and the manufacturers.

For 1, it's not a 300w panel. Yes 60x5 = 300, but at 60% efficiency, the real wattage is 130. Some claim as high as 180, but that's again MORE false information. They draw 132 watts.

So you see people buying 2 mars300s, assuming that's equal to a 600w HPS, putting them in a 4x4 tent and wondering why only 260 watts isn't matching 600 watts.

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180 watts isn't false, just outdated.
The older 100x3 was 180 watts.

The newer 5 watt leds are more underdriven than the old 3 watt leds which adds a little to the efficiency.

superbak3d said:

Exactly. "Small" grows.

While you can use them on larger grows, you have to be aware you need a lot of them, and that's where the problem arises for many people on this forum. The cost to cover the larger areas quickly adds up to the point where you could just run HPS at a fraction of the cost.

My problem with any panel using epistar diodes, is there's too much false information floating around, by users and the manufacturers.

For 1, it's not a 300w panel. Yes 60x5 = 300, but at 60% efficiency, the real wattage is 130. Some claim as high as 180, but that's again MORE false information. They draw 132 watts.
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if they draw 132 watts they are more like 50 W of light. theres nothing 300 about them

BOBBY_G said:

if they draw 132 watts they are more like 50 W of light. theres nothing 300 about them

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I never said they were now did I?

60x5 = 300 @ 60% efficiency = 130w roughly

Is that too difficult to comprehend?

superbak3d said:

I never said they were now did I?

60x5 = 300 @ 60% efficiency = 130w roughly

Is that too difficult to comprehend?

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Yes, 300w @ 60% efficiency would be 180w.