Is there anything currently better then amare?

ttystikk

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I can tell you from experience (and getting severely ridiculed) being the first to have a BML SPYDR 600 where I chose the spectrums. It was 90% CW/NW/WW diodes, the rest 450s and 630s. Don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that the mix would grow some fine medicine. I started a RIU thread showing weekly picture updates

And, yet the jackals screamed UNTESTED. One went as far as to blast me to Nick's (BML) face at a show. So, taking a shot because something is untested but of good spec doesn't hold much water here. Many of them did the same when I started using Amare lights
Yeah, but the difference is that you posted pics.
 

Hybridway

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Yeah, but the difference is that you posted pics.
I erase my pics after posting them on my thread.
What is there to question that you need a picture for anyways?
How am I a shill again?
Correcting BS coming from biased haters makes me a shill? Hu! No wonder it's so hard to find the truth around here.
 

Stephenj37826

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I forgot where on Florida the test was done. It's such a hassle to dig through my e-mails.


Thanks about the ppfd lesson. Could you post the equation for the proper way to do it using a par-meter.
Oh, BTW, no pun intended, but you may wanna check into Fluence Bio fixtures. They have a light called the Razor too.
What's that one, your Quantum Board?

That's an upcoming fixture in an open environment. I'll look into it we may call it something else. Names don't really matter to me that much.
A much better way to calculate PPFD with par measurements can be found in @robincnn thread. Maybe he can provide a link.
 

ttystikk

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I erase my pics after posting them on my thread.
What is there to question that you need a picture for anyways?
How am I a shill again?
Correcting BS coming from biased haters makes me a shill? Hu! No wonder it's so hard to find the truth around here.
You erase them cuz they're shit and you can't stand leaving up crummy calling cards? Seems a logical rationale.

Yes I'm calling you a shill, based on nothing more than the last 15 pages of you suckling Amare cock in this very thread... while carefully cleaning up every shred of evidence.

Monica Lewinsky would be proud.

Where's your advertiser badge, suck boy? Or are you still going to try to convince us you aren't on the payroll?
 

Hybridway

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That's an upcoming fixture in an open environment. I'll look into it we may call it something else. Names don't really matter to me that much.
A much better way to calculate PPFD with par measurements can be found in @robincnn thread. Maybe he can provide a link.
Thank you!
Didn't mean anything by it, just wanted to make you aware.
I wish you luck w/ the Quantim Boards. They are pretty cool.
I like having an option for close proximity growing myself. That's one reason why I have 2 totally different lights running, for both grow styles.
You'll do well w/ having both as an option I think.
 

Hybridway

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It's a classic deflection tactic. He's got nothing and it's obvious to everyone now.

/thread
Ive got nothing of what? I don't own lights? I don't harvest & share?
I said no lies, responded to questions & falsities, own the lights, put nobody else down in the process.
I don't get it?
 

ttystikk

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Thank you!
Didn't mean anything by it, just wanted to make you aware.
I wish you luck w/ the Quantim Boards. They are pretty cool.
I like having an option for close proximity growing myself. That's one reason why I have 2 totally different lights running, for both grow styles.
You'll do well w/ having both as an option I think.
Lol- The likes of you offering lighting design advice to @Stephenj37826 ...

Now THAT'S hysterical!

I know Steve personally, he's a very polite and low key guy who lets his lights do the talking. But I'm quite sure he doesn't need any of your 'advice'.

You'd do well to take his but based on what I've seen out of you already, I doubt you're that smart.
 

ttystikk

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Ive got nothing of what? I don't own lights? I don't harvest & share?
You don't admit you're part of the company, and you don't have an advertiser badge.

Pics of your harvests or they didn't happen.

You're a liar, a shill and a cheap verbal charlatan.

The professional victim thing won't fly here, either.
 

Hybridway

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Lol- The likes of you offering lighting design advice to @Stephenj37826 ...

Now THAT'S hysterical!

I know Steve personally, he's a very polite and low key guy who lets his lights do the talking. But I'm quite sure he doesn't need any of your 'advice'.

You'd do well to take his but based on what I've seen out of you already, I doubt you're that smart.
What advice did I give that wasn't helpful?
Responding to you is giving you way to much credit.
You are a shill for dick heads basically. It's like you're trying to sell being an asshole or something. It's quite funny actually.
Sorry, but I can't waste anymore time w/ you. You bring nothing to the table & are certainly not helping the OP. Either am I or any of us as long as we're tied up in this BS.
I'll be the bigger man & end it now.
Peace!
I'm sure the OP had enough info by now to make his decisions & if not, I'll let you handle it seeing how you know so much about pre-built systems. Good luck!
 

KarmaPaymentPlan

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What advice did I give that wasn't helpful?
Responding to you is giving you way to much credit.
You are a shill for dick heads basically. It's like you're trying to sell being an asshole or something. It's quite funny actually.
Sorry, but I can't waste anymore time w/ you. You bring nothing to the table & are certainly not helping the OP. Either am I or any of us as long as we're tied up in this BS.
I'll be the bigger man & end it now.
Peace!
I'm sure the OP had enough info by now to make his decisions & if not, I'll let you handle it seeing how you know so much about pre-built systems. Good luck!
o guess you read my post!
btw wanna actually help the OP
@Hybridway

can you share some of this extensive testing Victor has done?
you know back up your claims since you wont acknowledge this question in the other thread
 

tstick

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LOL! This LED section is always so entertaining! It's like their are a few gyms (lighting companies) with "fighters" (people who run a company or people who use a particular company's products)...and when they meet up at weigh-ins, there is always a lot of posturing and flexing and huffing and puffing in each others' faces, etc. They tell each other what they are going to do to...who is better, tougher....who is more efficient! (LOL!)

At this point, as has already been mentioned, it's not even about how well a particular light works or what makes it different....It's ONLY about online personas poking and prodding each other.

So why not take it a step further?...

...The only (halfway) real way to really pit these lights in a real competition, is to create a test grow with absolutely everything being equal (clone, medium, water, nutrient type and schedule, temp, same wattage draw from the wall, same air movement, etc., etc., etc.) . The results would be weighed and tested for various cannabinoids and terpenes, etc. Winner gets bragging rights and gets to officially say "Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh!" ! ;) That would end this constant bickering once and for all....wouldn't it? (no, probably not) ;)

But what would be really interesting would be to have each company do the same exact test in their own facility and then see which discrepancies (if any) there would be. Have all these companies donate a light of their own to each of the other companies and then have each company run the same, exact test.....I dunno, but something tells me that, in each case, each company would come up with different results -even though the growing conditions and all parameters would have been agreed upon ahead of time to be exactly the same. In other words, no one would ever want to admit that their light was bested by another...I understand that. But, IF it could be done honestly by all, then there would be one company left standing at the end. Now THAT would be fun!
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
What advice did I give that wasn't helpful?
Responding to you is giving you way to much credit.
You are a shill for dick heads basically. It's like you're trying to sell being an asshole or something. It's quite funny actually.
Sorry, but I can't waste anymore time w/ you. You bring nothing to the table & are certainly not helping the OP. Either am I or any of us as long as we're tied up in this BS.
I'll be the bigger man & end it now.
Peace!
I'm sure the OP had enough info by now to make his decisions & if not, I'll let you handle it seeing how you know so much about pre-built systems. Good luck!
Lol who am I shilling for, again? NO ONE!

But nice try, deflection boy! Post some pictures, you lying fuck!

I got 180+ pages of proof in my thread. You do not want to get into a credibility contest with me, I'll bury you with pics like this;
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Now do us a favor and stop trying to mislead the unaware and unwary.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
LOL! This LED section is always so entertaining! It's like their are a few gyms (lighting companies) with "fighters" (people who run a company or people who use a particular company's products)...and when they meet up at weigh-ins, there is always a lot of posturing and flexing and huffing and puffing in each others' faces, etc. They tell each other what they are going to do to...who is better, tougher....who is more efficient! (LOL!)

At this point, as has already been mentioned, it's not even about how well a particular light works or what makes it different....It's ONLY about online personas poking and prodding each other.

So why not take it a step further?...

...The only (halfway) real way to really pit these lights in a real competition, is to create a test grow with absolutely everything being equal (clone, medium, water, nutrient type and schedule, temp, same wattage draw from the wall, same air movement, etc., etc., etc.) . The results would be weighed and tested for various cannabinoids and terpenes, etc. Winner gets bragging rights and gets to officially say "Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh, Nyeh!" ! ;) That would end this constant bickering once and for all....wouldn't it? (no, probably not) ;)

But what would be really interesting would be to have each company do the same exact test in their own facility and then see which discrepancies (if any) there would be. Have all these companies donate a light of their own to each of the other companies and then have each company run the same, exact test.....I dunno, but something tells me that, in each case, each company would come up with different results -even though the growing conditions and all parameters would have been agreed upon ahead of time to be exactly the same. In other words, no one would ever want to admit that their light was bested by another...I understand that. But, IF it could be done honestly by all, then there would be one company left standing at the end. Now THAT would be fun!
This has been done, and recently. The Johnson Grow Lights Maximizer was a big surprise winner, coming from a relatively unknown startup.

...and now Steve is beating even that fixture like an old nag with the new Quantum boards.

REAL innovation, not the blowhard kind.
 

tstick

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Lol who am I shilling for, again? NO ONE!

But nice try, deflection boy! Post some pictures, you lying fuck!

I got 180+ pages of proof in my thread. You do not want to get into a credibility contest with me, I'll bury you with pics like this;
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Now do us a favor and stop trying to mislead the unaware and unwary.
Man! Those are some beauties!
 

tstick

Well-Known Member
This has been done, and recently. The Johnson Grow Lights Maximizer was a big surprise winner, coming from a relatively unknown startup.

...and now Steve is beating even that fixture like an old nag with the new Quantum boards.

REAL innovation, not the blowhard kind.
Oh. I guess I missed that one. Damn! Well, Johnson Grow Lights seems like a great company from what I can tell. Congrats on the win! I wish Timber would have been around to enter into something like that. Maybe next time.....:)
 

taita

Member
hi ttystikk
im a curious non pro. i've put on my diapers.
Can you please send me a link to your friend steve's work so I can have my mind blown. Or any other link so I can get up to speed with what a quantum board in this context is even supposed to be.
thank you in advance.

This has been done, and recently. The Johnson Grow Lights Maximizer was a big surprise winner, coming from a relatively unknown startup.

...and now Steve is beating even that fixture like an old nag with the new Quantum boards.

REAL innovation, not the blowhard kind.
 
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