is this possible?

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DIRTHAWKER

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in southern california can i veg some clones under 24/7 lighting indoors for about 2-3 weeks, then harden them off for about a week then stick them under the almighty sun to flower? it hardly rains where im at and there is no freeze,, just beautiful sunshine.
 
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MisterNiceGuy

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DIRTHAWKER said:
in southern california can i veg some clones under 24/7 lighting indoors for about 2-3 weeks, then harden them off for about a week then stick them under the almighty sun to flower? it hardly rains where im at and there is no freeze,, just beautiful sunshine.
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Depends on when you stick them into the almighty sun. :lol:
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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Don't see why not. I'd use a white sheet or something to shade them, until they're, you know, hardened off.

They might flower more quickly than you want them to, though. Because, even if it is SoCal, you can't change the latitude.
 
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DIRTHAWKER

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so it depends on the lattitude and how much darkness they get?

i was looking at a sun graph and it looks like at the time i would be putting them out the dark cycle would be around 13-14 hrs of darkness
 
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DIRTHAWKER

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so im thinking that without exact 12 and 12 it might make things a little crazy,,, but the question is ? would it be worth a try or do i need to spend all the dough on lighting etc.. and do a real indoor grow.
 
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MisterNiceGuy

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you could give it a try it wouldn't be too bad, some growers indoors actualy extend their light or dark hours by 1-2 hours to induce bigger buds or whatever.
 
buddha61

buddha61

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12/12 is strictly an indoor flowering number. Outside, most plants will start to flower sometime around 14 hours of light and 10 hours of dark. 12/12 is not needed. As to your situation, you should be able to veg a little indoors, and then place outside to flower in SoCal.
 
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DIRTHAWKER

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looking at the sun graph for my region, it says the hours of daylight will decrease from 12/12 right now, to gradually less hours of light 11hrs down all the way to 10.3 hrs of light december 21st and then it starts to increase again.
 
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DIRTHAWKER

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well the whole point of the conversation is will it work?
Or do i drop hard earned money on lights? ESPECIALLY IN THIS BAD ECONOMY. Surely somebody on the forum knows?

the question is, will they flower and produce nice buds in a decreasing amount of light outdoors.

will they flower in 11, then 10 hrs of sunlight, the days are getting shorter.
 
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BLT

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DIRTHAWKER said:
well the whole point of the conversation is will it work?
Or do i drop hard earned money on lights? ESPECIALLY IN THIS BAD ECONOMY. Surely somebody on the forum knows?

the question is, will they flower and produce nice buds in a decreasing amount of light outdoors.

will they flower in 11, then 10 hrs of sunlight, the days are getting shorter.
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Not without sufficient veg time IMO.

BLT
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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Agreed.
DIRTHAWKER said:
so it depends on the lattitude and how much darkness they get?

i was looking at a sun graph and it looks like at the time i would be putting them out the dark cycle would be around 13-14 hrs of darkness
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Ok, the deal is that they require 12 hours of darkness to be spurred to full flowering. However, I personally think this is malleable, given the timing of my outdoor girls flowering and how they were well into flowering by the time we hit the equinox. But, yeah, that's sort of the deal.

You could just supplement the lighting, either at the beginning or end of the day (or both, an hour on each end, or whatever is necessary). I think certain greenhouse growers (ag & flower producers) do this.
 
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DIRTHAWKER

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Ok im confused,, seamaiden you say they need 12 hours of darkness to go into flowering,, so if there is 13-14 hours of darkness ( short winter days long nights) then whats the problem?
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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The problem is that the 12 hours of darkness is a MINIMUM number, not a maximum. With 13-14 hours of darkness, you've exceeded the minimum requirement to spur the plant to flower. Does that make sense?

For me, what's more confusing is that they go into flower in absence of that 12 hour darkness window. I can't remember who posted on the first page about it being an indoor thing, but I think they're probably right, based on my own outdoor experiences at least.
 
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buddha61

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12 hours of dark is not a minimum. My plants started to flower when the days had about 14 hours of light and 10 hours of dark. As I stated before, 12/12 is just a number that indoor growers use.

If you were to put a plant out now, it would grow, but would be going into flowering almost immediately, so there would be very little yield unless you vegged it inside for a few weeks minimum.
 
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DIRTHAWKER

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seamaiden yoor intelect baffles me... you say 12hrs dark is a minumum.. right? and then you say its a problem if you have 13-14 hrs dark.. isnt 12 the minimum? i dont get you.

buddah.. I plan on vegging dank clones indoors for a month and then move them out to the beautiful sunshine to flower. so i agree yes they will immeaditly go into flower but wouldnt they anyway if i did them indoors and switched the lights to 12/12?
Am i crazy? you would think the sun would do better then lights even if its only 10 or 11 hrs of sun?
 
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fdd2blk

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Seamaiden said:
The problem is that the 12 hours of darkness is a MINIMUM number, not a maximum. With 13-14 hours of darkness, you've exceeded the minimum requirement to spur the plant to flower. Does that make sense?

For me, what's more confusing is that they go into flower in absence of that 12 hour darkness window. I can't remember who posted on the first page about it being an indoor thing, but I think they're probably right, based on my own outdoor experiences at least.
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that makes no sense at all. 12 hours is a minimum. there is nothing wrong with exceeding the minimum.







they need 6 hours of "direct sunlight" per day. i'd enclose them to help keep the temps up. cold temps will cause heavily leaved buds and minimal trichs.
 
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fdd2blk

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DIRTHAWKER said:
seamaiden yoor intelect baffles me... you say 12hrs dark is a minumum.. right? and then you say its a problem if you have 13-14 hrs dark.. isnt 12 the minimum? i dont get you.

buddah.. I plan on vegging dank clones indoors for a month and then move them out to the beautiful sunshine to flower. so i agree yes they will immeaditly go into flower but wouldnt they anyway if i did them indoors and switched the lights to 12/12?
Am i crazy? you would think the sun would do better then lights even if its only 10 or 11 hrs of sun?
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veg them inside until they are the size you want to start flowering at. them put them outside. hurry up. bongsmiliebongsmilie
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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fdd2blk said:
that makes no sense at all. 12 hours is a minimum. there is nothing wrong with exceeding the minimum.
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Um, that's what I said, and you've just repeated it. 12 hours is a minimum. It was someone else who argued that point, not I.

And, I never said there was anything wrong with exceeding the minimum. I did say that it seems that the 12 hours thing seems to be more closely tied to indoor growing as I know my plants began to flower weeks before we'd hit the equinox (which, again, I'm pretty sure I'd said previously).
 
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fdd2blk

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DIRTHAWKER said:
Ok im confused,, seamaiden you say they need 12 hours of darkness to go into flowering,, so if there is 13-14 hours of darkness ( short winter days long nights) then whats the problem?
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Seamaiden said:
The problem is that the 12 hours of darkness is a MINIMUM number, not a maximum. With 13-14 hours of darkness, you've exceeded the minimum requirement to spur the plant to flower. Does that make sense?

For me, what's more confusing is that they go into flower in absence of that 12 hour darkness window. I can't remember who posted on the first page about it being an indoor thing, but I think they're probably right, based on my own outdoor experiences at least.
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Um, that's what I said, and you've just repeated it. 12 hours is a minimum. It was someone else who argued that point, not I.

And, I never said there was anything wrong with exceeding the minimum. I did say that it seems that the 12 hours thing seems to be more closely tied to indoor growing as I know my plants began to flower weeks before we'd hit the equinox (which, again, I'm pretty sure I'd said previously).
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he asked what the problem was. you said the problem was that 12 hours is a minimum. that's how i'm reading it anyways. ;-)
 
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