Jesus Was a Leftist -- Just for You Vi

7xstall

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That would make your assumption baseless. There is a big difference between a human behavior and defiling the temple by turning it into a place of commerce.
Jesus was a lot deeper than you give him credit for. Like I said, look at the people he hung out with.
And if he were the son of god, then he would have known that Homosexuality is a hormonal imbalance. Now I don't think myself High and mighty as you say, But I am sure that I have a better understanding of the bible than you.

Please tell me of the debt you say we owe?
All that is required is that you except Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour.
Again you know nothing of which you speak.
i wasn't even calling you high and mighty, i was referring to plato's mention of the failure rate of bible belt marriages. i must admit though, your constant flaunting of claims to great knowledge and superior understanding does ring of arrogance...



the body is the new temple, the behavior that you cause your body to perform is relevant to the new temple. you claim so much knowledge. sins against the body are the worst offenses possible.

you know nothing of the debt of the saints? it is to the rest of the world, we owe the rest of the world the opportunity to accept the offering that was made on the cross.

if you are saying homosexuality is an endocrine based medical problem it would have diagnostic criteria and treatment protocols, what are these dank?



time to put up or shut up so either back up your original claims that Jesus would officiate a gay marriage ceremony or get off the high horse.






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Dankdude

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Let me put it this way, there can be no doubt that Christ would have addressed a homosexual person in exactly the same way that He addressed the woman caught in adultery. He would act justly and show mercy. He would tell the person to go and sin no more. He would leave a message of love and tolerance.
 

7xstall

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You see what you are saying here is no different that that asshole in Kansas, if you want to bring certain groups into the kingdom you are to love them into the kingdom. hatred won't get them there. You don't have to overlook the sin, but you have to tolerate it.
are you on the rag or what?

i've judged no one. like always you're reading too much into my words.

pretending that it's ok, playing along with their games does not show them love. if you're sitting there with a loaded gun to your head am i supposed to roll my joint, smile at you and turn on the TV or am i supposed to come talk to you and understand what you're going through? you're insane if you think that encouraging their antics is helping them in any way.






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7xstall

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Let me put it this way, there can be no doubt that Christ would have addressed a homosexual person in exactly the same way that He addressed the woman caught in adultery. He would act justly and show mercy. He would tell the person to go and sin no more. He would leave a message of love and tolerance.
can't argue with that.




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Plato Is Boring

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I think this whole discussion is fruitless aside from it being a jab at Vi. When you go off trying to attribute political leanings to a mythical character it's always going to end up that way. Hell, I wonder what Socrates (I also think he never existed, but I like the credibility of his sources much better) thought about the current level of funding for space exploration? See, it's pointless.
 

7xstall

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I think this whole discussion is fruitless aside from it being a jab at Vi. When you go off trying to attribute political leanings to a mythical character it's always going to end up that way. Hell, I wonder what Socrates (I also think he never existed, but I like the credibility of his sources much better) thought about the current level of funding for space exploration? See, it's pointless.

what we're discussing is an important issue to some people.

i think that if i were to state that socrates was against forming moral judgments and making decisions, it would be the responsibility of anyone acquainted with his work to tell me otherwise.






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Dankdude

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are you on the rag or what?

i've judged no one. like always you're reading too much into my words.

pretending that it's ok, playing along with their games does not show them love. if you're sitting there with a loaded gun to your head am i supposed to roll my joint, smile at you and turn on the TV or am i supposed to come talk to you and understand what you're going through? you're insane if you think that encouraging their antics is helping them in any way.

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WTF, that didn't make any sense.
What did Jesus do when the disciples brought the adulteress, he bent down in front of his disciples and wrote out their sins in the sand, then he stood up and said, "Those of you who are without sin, cast the first stone."
 

Plato Is Boring

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what we're discussing is an important issue to some people. i think that if i were to state that socrates was against forming moral judgments and making decisions, it would be the responsibility of anyone acquainted with his work to tell me otherwise.

No, trying to attribute political leanings is fruitless; that's all I've said about this.
 

7xstall

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WTF, that didn't make any sense.
What did Jesus do when the disciples brought the adulteruss, he bent down in front of his disciples and wrote out their sins in the sand, then he stood up and said, "Those of you who are without sin, cast the first stone."
ok, tolerance is not about letting people self destruct while twiddling our thumbs. that's my whole point. you can't pretend that the lifestyle choice is legitimate while also telling them to confront the issues and make some changes for the better.

yes, the stone throwers are doing it wrong, no doubt, but the ones who cheer them (the people having stones thrown at them) on are just as bad.





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Dankdude

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To be honest, personally, I don't care one way or another about Gay Marriage. I just look at it this way. They have just as much right to be as miserable as strait people.
 

7xstall

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No, trying to attribute political leanings is fruitless; that's all I've said about this.
yeah, but if you know that Lincoln was a republican who used the military against citizens you can assume that he would have machine guns placed along the border today. :)





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7xstall

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To be honest, personally, I don't care one way or another about Gay Marriage. I just look at it this way. They have just as much right to be as miserable as strait people.

lol

yeah, it's a state issue and the citizens of each state should decide what state sanctioned marriage consists of.





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Dankdude

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lol

yeah, it's a state issue and the citizens of each state should decide what state sanctioned marriage consists of.

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What worries me is that each time the Government wants to pull something, they pull out the Holy Trinity. Abortion, Gay Rights, Stem Cell Research... This provides a distraction so that the non-thinking people (sheeple) don't notice.
 

7xstall

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yep, when the news is covering that stuff there is bound to be some seriously un-American stuff going on in the house...


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medicineman

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yep, when the news is covering that stuff there is bound to be some seriously un-American stuff going on in the house...


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Boy, you've got that right. What slays me is the complete lack of interest by the American sheeple. They know all about American Idol and Britney spears, Paris hilton etc, But how many know who the evil Karl Rove is? The real things affecting not only their lives, but the lives of their children and grandchildren are going on right before their eyes and they cant see them because the devil has cast a spell on the TV moguls, and they only show distractions from reality.
 

7xstall

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just like so few people actually realize that while Obama is out bashing the others for taking corporate bribes he's swimming in their money!

people are not interested, it's that stage of decline thing Vi posted the other day...



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ViRedd

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7x ...

I already held you in high esteem. But ... after reading your posts in this thread, my respect for you has grown emensly. Thank you.

Vi
 
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