K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

OoOoOoOo, cant fuckin wait to check them bitches out man, gonna be saaaaweeeeeeeet seein them lil fuckers shoot up outta the "ground". Fuckin A man, ill come check u out here in a lil bit. N i hope my shit swells out like i think its gonna. Ive been spending most of the time that im on RIU lately just looking at other grow journals that are or were growing the same strains as me, and comparing what mine look like at the end of week 3, to what theirs looked like, n mine are lookin to be right on schedule, if not ahead of schedule a little bit, lol. N lookin at the end products of alot of these grows man, i feel ilke im gonna end up bein one happy motherfucker

OK, so heres the update that i promised to put up for you guys today, n in my opinion, shit is lookin way different from the last time we visited the growroom together (LOL). So lemme do a breakdown before i post the pics.


Everything is goin great man. Ive decided that im gonna give the 600w another week, maybe two, and then im throwing in the 1000w to finish everything up, and hopefully increase my yield by a good 15-20%. The way things are looking right now, i really think im gonna reach that LB mark, and if i dont, im gonna get damn close. I have some pretty nice sized nugs on my branches right now as it is, n by the time theyre done their gonna be like 4 times bigger than they are now, if not even BIGGER, due to the 1000w switchout. Hopefully that switch will push me over the 1g/w goal that i had with the 600w light (of course not shooting for 1000g, im lookin to get somewhere around 600g -- even if i get that in wetweight, ill be happy). If i can pull it off, then ill be one happy motherfucker, especially cuz this is my first serious grow.

The pics -- The first shot was taken about a half hour ago cuz i forgot to get a tent shot, but i couldnt fit everything into the damn pic. Oh well, once again one of those problems thats not too bad to have, eh?



BlueCheese #2 - she still has the fattest buds on her, Although not the most buds, i think shes gonna be up there as far as the higher yielding plants in my grow. Her colas are starting to connect,and shes just lookin tastier by the day. i cant fuckin wait for her calyxes to swell up and for her colors to come out.





WhiteBerry - Still a superstar, even though not at the top of the class. Her nugs are nice n plump, and also are beginning to connect from node to node, giving me an idea of how big the tops are really gonna get. Just a thing of beauty man, i cant believe i only grew one of these, seriously, lol.






Northern Soul - Same deal man, i wish i would have started more than one of her. i would be satisfied just growin out Bluecheese, Whiteberry, n Northern Soul man. The way that this plant is turning out, shes gonna make me a very happy father. Shes tall as hell, and most of her bud growth is on top, but once i get some more light penetration with the 1000w, hopefully all of her bottom budsites will start blowin up too. If not, then when its harvest time, shes gonna be one of the plants that i just chop the tops off and let the bottoms develop for another 2 weeks. Either way shes gonna be a high yielder IMO.




BlueCheese #1 - Really an unexpected pheno in this plant. She turned from short n really bushy, to tall n lanky, n just really random growth everywhere. Its partly my fault because i let the plants veg for too long and this is one of the plants that started to form new branches in the internodes, so the node-to-node flower connection really isnt happening everywhere with her, but it IS happening still. Even if this girl is all popcorn nuggets, theyll be some nice ass nugs man. Id rather have 1000 popcorn nugs than 1 big cola anyways man. thats just me though




Twilight - Really i dont know what to say about her. Shes not doin badly or anything, she just doesnt have alot of leaves on her. Her tops were SUPER SUPER tall, so what i did was go about halfway down her main branches, and i pinched the stem until it popped, and then bent the branches over, and positioned them to where a couple bare patches on the plant next to her are propping them up until they heal and are strong enough to grow horizontally on their own. I actually did the same thing with one of the branches on BlueCheese #1 too. its workin out pretty damn good, cuz as soon as i did that, both plants had a little spurt in flower production. Well see how well Twilight turns out, and im still waiting and hoping to see a hint of purp in her, mainly because a TON of her leaf stems are deep deep purple, and since theres nothing wrong with the damn plant, that should mean i have some purp action on my hands, right??




Widows are FINALLY ready to flower. It took fuckin FOREVER to get them to where they needed to be, but i finally put them into flower permanently, with them at a height of around 8-9 inches tall, with 5-6 nodes on each plant., That should give me a respectable plant thats a couple feet tall at minimum, and will gimme a nice big babyleg sized cola hopefully no complaints with the Widows at all.

***pics were missing from my pictures file, so i must have deleted them by accident. Ill take a couple snaps tomorrow morning when the lights come on, before my camera goes byebye for 10 days.***

The 20 oz cup plant that i have goin right now, is fuckin crazy. Shes only fuckin 3 inches tall, and has 4 nodes, lol. im gonna top her tomorrow i think, if not tonight, and see how she responds. I think ill flower her within the week. Once again, im just doin this shit for kicks, so whatever happens happens with her.

***Same deal with the 20 oz cup***

My Red Diesel is doin good, but still not really growing at all. Still only has one set of true leaves above the cotelydons. But shes green as shit, and lookin really healthy, so im not gonna question it. Even though its only little still, i fed her her first nutrient watering the other day, and she didnt burn at all, so she must like it. Hopefully ill get a growth spurt in a couple days - the Widows did the same thing man, i dont get it - i guess theres somethin wrong with the top cab that makes all my shit in there grow super slow.

***Nothing worth showing off yet, shes just a set of leaves. ill take pics in a couple weeks. Im flowering her for 10 weeks, so no rush ***


- N there we have it. I hope you guys enjoyed the update, and sorry that I cant take more pics, but i did everything in a hurry, and as best as i could cuz i had to help with a couple people packing cuz theyre leaving tomorrow to go to Cali for 10 days. I hope that im doin good for just ending my 3rd week of flowering. Cant wait to see them at week 5, the same time you guys are gonna see them next

Thanks guys,

-K1.

wow man, you filled that tent out! im really likein that bluecheese #2... your gonna have some serious smoke on your hands man !

thanks man, i appreciate that shit, spesh comin from u dude - you got the greenthumb for sure man

N yeah, i think that Whiteberry is still my own personal favorite, but for one reason only now - i mean, dont get me wrong, shes gonna fill out n be a god damn BEAST, lol, but the main reason im lovin her is - cuz of her smell. She has a sweet blueberry smell, and its overpowering absolutely everything. The Soul used to be the stinker in the tent, but the Whiteberry is starting to emit a stink that just makes me smile man. Its so sweet man. They all fuckin stink, but even if you have the Northern or the Bluecheese in your face, if the whiteberry is anywhere close to you, youll be able to smell her. I fuckin love it - great sign of how potent shes gonna be for sure. Hope she gives up some really nice hues other than straight up white. In the pics of her when i bought the seeds, she was just pure white, sugared with trichomes, but id like to see some shades of blue, or purp in her along with the white. Thats why i picked up Strawberry blue seeds too, cuz even though shes white, you can see all her colors underneath the sugar. I hope WB turns out even close to that purdy man.

Ill be one happy fuckin camper

-N do you guys still think that 1g/watt is pushin it for me? or do you think it might be something that ill be able to achieve when i throw the 1000w in there -- not 1000grams, but rather closer to 600grams. Whadya think??

Those girls are lookin real nice man. I'm eager to see how the horizontal one turns out. It might get a ton of buds all the way down that stem!

theres green growth all the way down the stem until you get about 3/4 of a ft to the soil, then the stem gets bare. I shoulda took a pic for you guys of that same thing, but i didnt think to do somethin likke that until i put all my plants away. its too much of a bitch to put them all back n then take them out again, so sorry bout that one man. - but you ARE right though man, as soon as i bent her over, within 20 minutes of me doin it, the tops bent back up towards the light HARDcore, n new growth all the way down the stem started to sprout up, including new pistils everywhere. i hope theyre getting enough light right now to beef up n get ready for the 1000w man. Im just waitin on the bulb to show up, so as soon as it does i might put it in - i was gonna wait another week or so that way the 1000w can just act as a flower finisher, but if i put it in there within the next couple days theyll probably beast out alot more huh..

I WAS thinkin about just keepin the 600 in there, and buying a dual cool tube (48"), and throwing my other 600 in there, totalling 1200 watts, but the other 600 i got is a MH bulb, and id have to order the HPS bulb for it. its one of those white ballasts with the switch on the back so you can change between hps and mh - the cheapest one i wanted to buy. There were cheaper ones, but i figure if i were to have bought the cheapest one i would lose lumens, because those cheapo ones dont always give you the maximum output that your bulb can do. Im an idiot cuz i didnt spring for the Digital Greenhouse ballasts for all my new lights man, i feel ike an idiot cuz i wanted to save a few bucks in the long run, but now im kickin myself in the ass cuz i didnt fuckin go for the quality, i went for quantity. NOT the case with my nugs though

I cant wait to finish this run so i can get everything ready for the move. im gonna throw the 600 MH back into the tent and get 6 plants (i think, maybe more) goin to set up my mother collection - i just cant decide which ones i wanna make mothers, lol.

Maybe you guys can help me pick my moms out man the strains im working with are:

(by the way, alot of the strains listed ive ordered within the last couple days, due to two different people wanting to get me seeds for xmas, so i got to run around like a chikkin with my head cut off lookin for pretty much anything i want the other ones that i havent ordered yet, i will have ordered as soon as i can find the best version of each strain - i already have my heart set on the particular strain, im just doing some research before i buy. I think this is gonna be my last big seed run for a long long time, so thats why im pickin up so many right now.)

The Black
Pineapple Punch
Dutch dragon
Cheese
Blue Cheese
Whiteberry
Power SKunk
Super Skunk
Red Diesel
purple diesel (will have ordered by tomorrow)
strawberry diesel (on the way)
Mt. Cook (kiwi seeds)
Blue Dream (will have ordered by tomorrow)
Purple Kush(Ordering soon)
Lemon Lime(ordering soon)
PG-13(on the way)
HP-13(on the way)
Bubblicious
Papaya
New Purple Power
Durban
Nothern lights
Northern soul
Kali Mist
New York Special
New York 47
Yumboldt 47
Chemdoggy D
Strawberry Blue
Trainwreck
Jilly Bean (on the way)
Big Bud (On the way)
Alpha Diesel -Sour D- (On the way)
Dj Short's BlueBerry (on the way)
Shishkeberry (on the way)
Shnazzleberry #2 (on the way)
Blue Sattelite (on the way)
NyC Diesel (on the way)
White Widow (only have 1 seed left, but am ordering more before i move out, once i see how these grow out)

n FUCK man, lol. I always forget one or two strains when i do this shit man. I know i have more than this for sure, i just cant remember at the moment. I DO have my wall semi accessible right now though, so i can probably go n look sometime soon, but god damn i wish my memory would fuckin get better man, i feel like im senile, lol. Anyways, PICK SOME MOTHERS OUT FOR ME DAMNIT!!!

N do you think its a mistake to have this many seeds?? i mean, they only stay viable for a couple years, n while i WANT to run all of them, i dont know if ill be able to do a run with each and every single strain i have before the genetics become unviable. If i can find a good way to store them for like a 5 yr period, ill probably be able to get a good 2-3 runs out of each strain, lol. I just wanna have my bases covered in case something should ever happen to me and i need to start over, i wanna have a massive collection of seeds so i can pick n choose what i wanna do. I didnt really think about storing them cuz of their shelf life, lol. Maybe ill take a few strains over to seedbay and put them up for auction or somethin like that, lol. I need to find some typa star wars, han solo carbonite hybernation chamber or some shit to get to put them in man, lol.

***EDIT*** ahhhhhh, i know what im gonna do, lol. once or twice during the year ill stop my perpetual production line, and do a special run of like 5 different strains (kinda like this grow, but with like 15 plants). That should make sure i get through everything. The main reason i wanna go through them all, is because i bought them cuz i wanna find out which genetics fit my growing skill the best. By running my way through them all, ill be able to figure out what I like the best, and what my buddies like the best, so i can just keep growing the same 6-10 strains forever. N 10 is my maximum limit on mothers i think. im gonna make 3 of my own Home Box XXXLs for my production line, but i think im also gonna make an extra one thats a little bigger for the mommies. I had my heart set on no more than 10 moms, but the more i think about it, the more i wanna squeeze all the moms i can into one space and veg them out permanently with a 1000w (or 600w). I just keep on rethinking the whole thing, and each time i rethink it shit gets more n more involved.

Thing is, i really dont wanna go over 15 plants being flowered at a time ,and its gonna be like an lb every month. i dont wanna do something to where i harvest every 2 weeks, cuz then ill just end up with so much pot that ill need to build a new room just to keep my fuckin buds in man.

So, 15 moms grown in Ocean forest - 15 clones in a bubble cloner - 15 plants vegging in ________ (possibly Flood n Drain, but i dont know yet) - 15 plants Flowering in tray - 15 maturing in tray 2 - 15 finishing in tray 3. wow thats 60 fuckin plants total not including my moms. I gotta rethink it again man.

- n heres one for you guys - what growing method or medium should i use with a perpetual grow?? i need to have my medium be a renewable resource. iit cant be a situation where i end up havin to go get new medium every fuckin 3 weeks man, that shits not low profile. Maybe individual Dro buckets with hydroton -- ill never have to get new shit, but like maybe once a year......hmmmmm....

man, you really got some serious shit goin on .... cant wait to see what you do at your new house.
you may be able to freeze seeds for storage....
also your making me want to upgrade my 400w to a 600w
im gonna be reuseing my soil ... except for the parts that are loaded with roots ...

Man bro, I didn't know that list of genetics had gotten that long lol, nice!! My vote on the moms for the start of it all are: The black, Pinapple punch, new York 47, Blueberry, Whiteberry, well thats 5.

Have you given any more thought to the StinkBud aero/nft system man. You can make very simple mods to the system to fit any pace you wanna fill with buds. You can also still keep your mothers if you wanted. That would make it very simple, and extremely efficient to get your lb a month goal. I know we talked about it the one day.

i have actually man, and i really do think im gonna have to bite the bullet and go NfT if i wanna do a perpetual without having to run to the damn shop for endless bags of fox farm every month, lol. The idea is to eventually end up with a fully sustainable setup that requires nothing but the reordering of nutrients every few months. I dont wanna have to buy new equipment every month at all - i want absolutely nobody to know what im doing in my new place, i dont give a fuck if the pope of pot came to my house, id smoke a blunt with his ass n not even mention my dungeon

N TC, those 5 were definitely gonna be on my list, -- The whiteberry is goin on there no matter what, cuz her n bluecheese (well the bushy pheno anyway) are my favorite two strains as far as favorable characteristics go so far. Im not really concerned with the yield on one plant, so much as i am with the quality of the bud - i was thinnking about pickin up some of TGA's tiny bomb. that shit looks DANK as fuck, n from what ive read about if from SubCool's own words, its the best smoke hes ever had in his life, but its yielding abilities are for shit. As far as high yielders go, if i ever wanna go commercial which i doubt will happen, then ill start worrying about yield, but if im just growin for me n maybe one or two buddies, then quality will always supercede quantity. Even though im shooting for an LB, id still be happy if i just got 1/2 lb, but its some of the best shit ive ever smoked. Im sure everyone feels the same way that arent growing commercially. When money becomes a problem and i dont have anywhere else to turn to (which god willing will never happen), then ill start worrying about yield.

Anyways, back to my moms. Im also thinking of doin Red Diesel, New York Special, Yumboldt, and maybe the Strawberry D. All those other fuckers will have to wait their turn. Anything that i grow into a mother plant, i will still have at least 4 more seeds of each strain, so after the first year of growing, ill probably do another 10 moms, n then another 10 the next year. If i keep doin it that way ill probably be able to run through all my strains at least once before they stop being viable. But then again, ive read about some dude growing out seeds that were 15 years old and they still germed and grew out. I was shocked when i read that shit man (in the book DANK by Subcool), so now im not so concerned with keeping seeds frozen in time, lol. Besides, if anything ever stops being viable, ill always b able to pick up something bigger, better ,and hopefully stronger along the way


***edit*** o, n btw, theres like 6 strains that i either couldnt find or cant afford to pick up right now, lol, so ill have to wait for another month or two before i big dog it like that lol.

sounds good man!, when do you think your movin ?
how much do you smoke everyday ?

Some good HG exotic you got weed420 and K1 that shit is coming along spectacular bruh.
Smoke that shit w420

Be Easy
J

If all you want to have to do is get more nutes, and move your plants, and get a lb a month, then Stink buds system is exactly what you want bro. You can still keep your mothers in a mother room if you want(though you don't need to with his system). All you have to do is buy nutes, and clean your reservoirs. You will be able to have even bigger plants them him too, he is limited by his states medical laws. So you will easily get over a lb a month. His flower units hold 14 plants each(x3) the veg unit holds 18, and the cloner holds 26. This way each time he moves plants, he has a choice of the strongest best plants. 3weeks cloner, 3 weeks veg, 9 weeks flower. You will have more bud then you know what to do with King!

Hobo grow!

Id say i toke about an oz a week round about Weedman, so an lb for me would last me right around a 3 month period, give or take an oz, and giving an onion to either a buddy, or my sister. Works out pretty good

N TC yeah i gotta say that stink's method is lookin pretty good to me. Its all about how much space the new pad is gonna have me workin with. Im gonna be using my carpentry skills in the fab part of setting up my growroom though. I might even build a big false wall going around the perimeter of the basement if i have enough room to do it. Just line the walls with insulation wrapped in mylar, and then put panels of drywall over that and more mylar, to block IR heat signals coming from the basement. then wood panels on the other side, completely concealing the grow op. Ill be lookin to move out as soon as i get my income tax return and know how much cash well have to work with, so whenever that is, thats when im out

Thanks Mane, always appreciate it !

N Joker, my grow aint so hobo anymore bro check the grow out beyond page 3 man, things have gotten a bit better since the top cab was my main grow room, lol. Its only gonna get better from here.

O, n i ordered my 1000w bulb the day before yesterday. So as soon as it comes in the mail ill be upgrading my light situation to hopefully get alot more penetration beyond the canopy. Would be really useful right now since i have two white widows begging for light right now, with all those tall ass plants around them, and theyre just a foot off the ground right now, lol. I had to do some lightweight pruning of the leaves surrounding the widows, just to get more light to them -- i didnt take whole leaves off, i just trimmed the leaf blades down a bit, sort of like you would to a clone, so they still suck in light and help my buds grow, but theyre not obstructing rays of light from shining onto the little gals. no pistils yet on them, but theyre gonna start their stretch really soon here, n i have my oscilating fan blowin on them all day long, n i close it up at night obviously, lol. So hopefully ill get some nice beefy trunks on them fuckers too


O one more thing, lol -- i just went back in my journal and looked at the date i planted my fuckin Red diesel, and it was over a god damn month ago!!!! I HAVE A RED DIESEL SEEDLING THAT IS A MONTH FUCKING OLD!!! - thats the wierdest thing i have ever seen in my life. Shes perfectly healthy, shes not suffering in any way at all, but she only has one set of one bladed true leaves, and her milk leaves. Shes one month old, and hasn't grown an inch since she grew a fucking inch!!(LOL). I dont know if shes biding her time or what, but i know that its gotta be that fucking top cab. I keep reducing the light thats being put out up there, so the heat goes down in hopes of making her grow, but i get nothin. I know that once i put her down into the tent shell explode, but i dont want to flower her right now, i wanna fuckin grow her out until the other girls are done, and then have just one big ass bush plant growing down there for my last harvest before the move. I wonder if i can keep her down to seedling height for another 4 weeks, lol. If i could do that shit, and then throw her right into flowering, i wonder how she would grow out man. Her root system has gotta be fuckin HUGE by now if thats all shes growing out, right??

haha i got the same problem man one of my auto ak-47 is like an inch tall and a month old. the one right next to it is the same shit and like 6 inches and flowering already lol. weird shit man..

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

Id say i toke about an oz a week round about Weedman, so an lb for me would last me right around a 3 month period, give or take an oz, and giving an onion to either a buddy, or my sister. Works out pretty good

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i was just wondering ... how long can you smoke weed for ?
ALL DAY !
... lol you blow some serious green man, i cant imagine buying that much.
i like to smoke a gram a day .. but i cant yet, cuz i still gotta buy it.
i cant wait to hang my big bitch up to dry .. omg

well, its really alot cheaper if you buy in bulk man. Every month or so me n the pops throw in on an lb. Figure we have the hookup, so why not use it eh? lol - right about now, since weve pretty much been buyin bud off the same dude since i wa 15, n my pops has been buyin from him since before i can even remember, depending on the bud we get lbs for around 900-1100 - n thats for some pretty decent green, nothin shwaggy, just some nice compact greeny green. Im sure my dad gets it for alot cheaper, but he dont wanna let me in on HIS good deals, god forbid, lol. So yeah, all in all, and its depending on the bud too, id say i smoke about an oz a week.


So check this shit out -- my P.Maxx is finally working on the plants man. I watered the day before yesterday with nutes, and i wake up this morning and all my nugs and leaves around them are fuckin COVERED with sugar - not so much that everything is white, but if you take a flashlight to the buds they gleam like a fuckin disco ball, lol. Its gotta be the maxx, because even though the resin was bound to start producing any day now anyways, theres no way in hell it would produce this fast, unless a lttle somethin was helpin out --i fuckin wish i had a camera right now to hook up some pics with man. On xmas ill have my iphone, and the camera on that bitch is like 7 megapxels, so ill be able to get some really nice macros in and post um up here for you guys to check out. Sorry i cant give an example guys, seriously, lol - i fuckin checked everything out and the first thing that came to mind was to run n grab the camera. fuckin got PISSED when i remembered it was gone. Smoked a bubbler n got over it though , lol.

ill be back around on n off today, but tomorrow and monday i may be a little pre-occupied. Unless one of my uncles gets it out of me and finds out im growin, i dont know if ill be vsiting the grow room much before xmas -- maybe once to water, but well see.

-N sorry that my typng is so shitty rght now, lol, i got fuckin activated carbon underneath my god damn keys in the keyboard. fuckn stupid laptops...

100 pages and almost 1000 posts... that is impressive...!!!

Did I get it did I get it...???

Yay! the 1000th post...

Hahahaha.. what's up K1Ng?!?!?!?

wanna get high...?????