K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

i always wanna git high gyps, the hell u talkin bout, lol

N im glad to see your back man, like i said before, was gettin worried for a sec that you just disappeared

Now, i got a question for all you guys n gals out there who are not newbs to growing.... Now, im finishing week 4 of flowering. The buds are stacking up, and starting to fill out a little bit, but i almost feel like the buds are more hair than calyx. I look hard as hell, and i can barely see the calyxes underneath the pistils -- not obviously i know theres a shit ton of calyxes, otherwise there would be no pistils, lol, but my concern is, dont you think that they should be more developed by now, this far along in the process?? the Whiteberry and the twilight are 7 week strains roughly. Now i know that this is just a rough estimate of what it SHOULD take for them to finish up, so im not stressin that bad about it, but is there gonna be some like HUGE overnight bud fattening goin on or somethin??

im not really stressed out about it, just curious more than anything. Im gonna be putting my 1000w in there in a couple days here, so i know thatll help shit finish out strong, but if i werent to use the 1000w, would things still finish out at a respectable yield??

From all the grows I've watched, alot of the time it seems like they fill in from week 4 - finish to be honest. I don't know. I think with how healthy the plants are, and the amount of pistols they have, you are gonna have gorgeous buds!

damn i cant wait to see how you do with that 1000w , what are u doin with the 600 ? also my shit seems to be taking longer to finish then expected, so id say just let em go till they tell you their done.just did a pic update on my veg room too

I agree, you can't cut them till they say they are done. It might take more then 7-8 weeks!

im gonna put the 600 in storage with all my other HIDs. I dont know if you read it or not, but a while ago i picked up a 250, a 400, and a 100w ballast n bulb sets. No reflectors bcause i dont know what type im gonna need yet. im pre-emptively picking up all the equipment i can now, so i dont have to worry about ordering a shitload of grow equipment to my new permanent address.

-N i hope everyone is right man, i keep on thinkin that maybe its because i dont have enough light getting to each of the plants, n thats why the calyxes arent maturing the way that i want them to - but like you guys said, its not really what i want them to do, so much as what they feel like doin, lol. So yeah, im hopin that all the damn pistils on all these branches means that im gonna have some MEAN ass lookin nugs towards the end here. I dont care if i gotta wait an extra week or two, i have time in that respect, i just wanna make sure theyre done this time around man. Both of my previous plants i harvested WAY too early, and ended up with inferior product (even though Corky was some pretty decent chronic if i do say so myself ) --

i can even take some pics of a couple of nuggets from corky that i saved for whenever i run out of dope to smoke. Ill snap off a couple whenever i get my camera. She actually turned a lime-ish green, n even though she was mature, she really cured well, and has a nice stoney high to her. But No matter how satisfied i was with her, bottom line is, she was cut too too early - she was all hairs when she was pulled man, n i dont want that shit to happen. GOD DAMN!!! -- my lights came on about ten minutes ago man, n i can SMELL my fuckin plants from the next room over. what the fuck?! time to light some liquid blue n --FUCK! i forgot to turn my fans on, lmao. thats never happened before man, i thought my girls got double potent over night, lol. Lemme go handle that real quick

Lol you king always makin me laugh. I think you will be plenty satisfied in the end bro. Adding the 1000w now wouldn't be a bad idea, but I think they will beef out. So you currently have a 1000, a 600, 400, 250, and 100, re they all HPS? We've been talkin about the stink bud system bro, I think that the 400 will be fine for the veg system. You can either use your cfl hood, maybe your 100w, or floro tubes for the clones. THen your flower room you'll have the 600 and the 1000. Depending on what your space looks like, you may honestly want another 1-2 600, to get maximum coverage. I know thats the only thing stinkbud is ever complained about, is only haveing 2 1000w for his flower room. He is always sayin that if he had 4 600 it would definitly increase his yeild more. I'm sure if you ran 2-3 600, and your 1000 that you would have plenty of coverage. I'll get on that thread later, and get in the info on his room controler. Asside from lights, thats one of the only real investmants needed, the rest of the stuff is cheap and DIY.

the 400, 600, and 1000 (no 100w)are all switchable ballasts, so i can use them however the situation calls for them to be used. the 250 is a MH ballast as far as i know -- i dont know wether or not it can be used with a HPS, but i dont really want it to anyways, lol. Im gonna use that for my clones i think. I also got some lightmover rails that ill be using for the flower room. Ill use my 600w for the first two tables in the flower room, and the 1000w for the second set of tables, so that seems like it should be enough coverage, n save me some cash at the same time, lol. Ill use the 400w MH for the moms, i guess i should probably get another 400 for the first two weeks of veg too - damn thats alot of electricity, even with the damn light movers, lol.

lets do the math together, lol:

250
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+400
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2,650w -- is that too much power consumption for one house?? I mean, ill be running all the veg equipment for 18/6 (no more 24/0 man, not with that kinda wattage, lol), n the flowering stuff will only be 12/12, so it shouldnt be too TOO bad i guess. lol damn man, i need to figure ALOTTA stuff out within the next 3 months here, or im gonna be fumblin around come zero hour, and i wont know what the fuck to do man.

PLUS, i think i might invest in a couple of those SUNSOAKER umbrella shaped reflectors for the flower room too, so i can maximize my coverage.

See, this is why im so fuckin confused, lol. After i checked out HBRs stadium grow, i fuckin fell in love with it. I love how its set up, how many plants he can fit into it, and how efficient it is, using up every last drop of light available, by hanging the bulb vertically and surrounding it by his stadium. Hanging your bulb vertically is the most efficient way to use an HID light, because there isnt any light bouncing off of a reflector back down to the ground. your not losing any lumens on reflective material to force the beams of light back to where you want them to be, you just let the light hang vertically, and let it do its thing, getting full lumen output from your bulb. I wanted to do that with my setup about two weeks ago, but it was too much of a bitch to get that inner reflector out of the fucking tube, so i said fuckit n left it alone. If i could stuck the light in the middle of all the plants, and situated them around the light, i wouldnt have to worry about having only a foot of height left - i could let them hit the cieling and then keep on goin, lol.

God damnit, so many choices, so little time. I need someone to just fuckin tell me which way to grow n fuckin settle it for me. I wanna follow Al B.'s method, Stink's method, HBRs method, fuckin who am i leavin out here....ABOUT 20 OTHER FUCKING PEOPLE, lol. i wish there was some fuckin frankenstien style grow method that i could use that throws every different style together into one sweet ass grow, lol. Fuckit man, i got the rest of my life to experiment with all this shit i spose. bah, [/rant].

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

the 400, 600, and 1000 (no 100w)are all switchable ballasts, so i can use them however the situation calls for them to be used. the 250 is a MH ballast as far as i know -- i dont know wether or not it can be used with a HPS, but i dont really want it to anyways, lol. Im gonna use that for my clones i think. I also got some lightmover rails that ill be using for the flower room. Ill use my 600w for the first two tables in the flower room, and the 1000w for the second set of tables, so that seems like it should be enough coverage, n save me some cash at the same time, lol. Ill use the 400w MH for the moms, i guess i should probably get another 400 for the first two weeks of veg too - damn thats alot of electricity, even with the damn light movers, lol.

lets do the math together, lol:

250
+400
+600
+1000
+400
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2,650w -- is that too much power consumption for one house?? I mean, ill be running all the veg equipment for 18/6 (no more 24/0 man, not with that kinda wattage, lol), n the flowering stuff will only be 12/12, so it shouldnt be too TOO bad i guess. lol damn man, i need to figure ALOTTA stuff out within the next 3 months here, or im gonna be fumblin around come zero hour, and i wont know what the fuck to do man.

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thats more then my hole house uses each month prolly ...4 br about 1800 sq ft(we dont use all the rooms), personally i like to maximize effiency and get the most out of each watt... dont forget about your fans ! they draw some power too ... and your gonna need more with all those lights. im really loving cfls for their vegging capability and low power... how many mothers do you plan on having ? how many plants flowering ? are you doin all hydro ?
i was just planning out how im gonna flower my shit from now on ... i got those 3 gal garbage containers ... i cut them down to about 2 gallon
have 2 plants in each ..lollipop style. i can fit 24 containers in my slightly smaller then 4x4 space.. so thats 48 plants. havesting about 5 containers each time(10plants) would give me a harvest of around 6-7oz every 2weeks on a 10 week cycle ... which can be adjusted if needed

I think the figure is 1000w per 12/12 bedroom the house has. Its funny you mentioned a frankenstein system King. I hadtalked to stinkbud, and HBr about a vertical aero/nft system. Build the posts just like stink bud, but stack 3-5 posts vertically tilted at a 45 degree angle towards the light. LIke a aeroponic wall!

You finna crank up a 1000watter, fuckin congrats bruh.
I also believe they they start to fill in at week four as well.

yea SO many methods so little time K1 lol. Sinkbud has a great fuckin method that shit kicks ass bruh.
There are alot of methods on here I love readin them. You should start a K1 method yeaa!

hey k1ng go to the DIY section and look for the cooltube they way u make it u can have it with or without a reflector

Budda_Luva said:

hey k1ng go to the DIY section and look for the cooltube they way u make it u can have it with or without a reflector

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I have some info on DIY cooltubes on my sig... linked from the FAQ...

yeh i know the skinny on the DIY cooltube action, i just wanned to take the damn thing out of the one i already had, lol. ITs all cool though, cuz i put the 1k watter into the tent today - well last night actually, lol. So far so good, nothins burnin yet .

N Mane, i forgot to hit u back up this mornin n thank you for the props you gave me dude, i really do appreciate that as always man, n theres no way in hell i can take credit for knowin anything at all, lol - i read it in one of my books - all i did was remember what the book said Give credit to Mel Thomas - but reguardless man, thanks a fuckin billion dude
It does seem like its only been a couple short months since i was on here beggin anyone n everyone for help on absolutely everything, lol. A little yelp know nothin grower wannabe. But deciding to take this shit seriously helped me alot to get motivated to learn, and when i decided to do this shit for the rest of my life, legal or not, thats when i started spending ALOT of my free time on the net soaking up everything i could. I still dont know jack shit though

N Gyps, im gonna hit u up in a second, i forgot to tell u somethin too, lol. Man todays been a long day, so bear with me everyone. If i forget to answer anybody dont get butthurt LOL -- the screens all blurry right now n i wanna crash out. Just figured id hit this bitch up real quick to see whats what since it was down for the two hours i was home earlier

-- DID ANYONE ELSE have a problem with RIU earlier on today?? it kept on redirecting me to some road runner site, n then a bunch of search results from yahoo! answers came up talkin about "what happened to RIU", but it was from like 8 months ago. wierd.

Ill be back on tomorrow morning to check you guys out before i go join the xmas festivities n put on my green santa clause hat n start gettin drunk on the nog

peace my fellow elves

-K1

Ya Riu ws acting wierd for me around 10:30 this morning. Talk to you later King!

yeah dude it was for me too. I dont know what the hell was goin on, but i couldnt get on until somethin like around 5 or 6pm last night. Anybody have any ideas???


So the 1000w is a bust man. Fuckin came back home today to check n see how the girls were reacting to the lighting, and even though theres more progress underneath the canopy, the tops were starting to turn yellow, due to me not being able to move the light farther from the tops any more because the damn thing is touchin the cieling of the tent. Unless i wanna overhaul my entire closet, which aint happenin this late in the damn game, lol, i had to put my 600 back in. But the bright side is, everything is fattening up anyways. Things are starting to fill in throughout the canopy (which im pretty sure i cant credit the 1000 for completely, lol), so well see where that takes us, and ill throw some pics out on xmas day for you guys.

I also had to deal with another annoying fucking problem -- i had white furry mold on my topsoil when i checked them out today. It was just two plants, but still, white mold. This had to be due to either improper draineage or due to the bottoms of the bags staying moist after watering, mixed in with the heat from the tent. So i ripped up the topsoil, took the bags off of the plants, changed them out, replaced the topsoil, and some of the loose soil on the sides, and WALA! no more mould. Least i fuckin hope not man. Even if it comes back, ill be watchin that shit like a hawk, and it aint gonna spread man, fuck that shit. Im adding 2 tsp of white vinegar to every single watering from now on, and im gonna take the proper preventative steps to make sure it dont fuckin come back. This grow has ben relatively problem free, and i aint lettin no god damn mould fuck it up for me when im so close to the end god damnit.

Anybody have any other ideas as to how to keep the white menace from returning??

O, n i know it was probably a bad idea, and this WAS probably the main cause of the mold, but the last couple times i watered, to save on some time, i didnt let them drain fully before putting them back into the tent, and i just placed a couple of towels on the floor underneath the bags. N then i got lazy n left them there for 3 days this last watering. So thats probably what really caused it, considering that even after 3 days the towels were still soaking wet, lol. I know im a moron, but hey, everybody gets 1 or 2 right??

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

Anybody have any other ideas as to how to keep the white menace from returning??

O, n i know it was probably a bad idea, and this WAS probably the main cause of the mold, but the last couple times i watered, to save on some time, i didnt let them drain fully before putting them back into the tent, and i just placed a couple of towels on the floor underneath the bags. N then i got lazy n left them there for 3 days this last watering. So thats probably what really caused it, considering that even after 3 days the towels were still soaking wet, lol. I know im a moron, but hey, everybody gets 1 or 2 right??

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dont do /\ and water a little less

yup, thats the game plan, lol thanks Weedman I was supposed to water today lookin at my schedule, but i opted to not do that, cuz when i replaced the growbags i felt the sides of the soil and they were still damp, so i figure let them go for an extra day n they should be ready to go on xmas for a nice nutrient rich watering. Thatll make it 5 days since my last watering, which is wierd cuz they usually get dry alot quicker than that (at least from my own judgement). N btw when i took the bags off of the plants, the soil all held together without hardly any falling off. The root system is SOOO fuckin huge man, its crazy just to look at how developed these fuckers have gotten.

N i put the 1000w back in the tent too, and i weighed down the tops of the BC#1 and Twilight plants so they werent 2 inches away from it, and they havent continued to yellow up, so maybe ill be good with the big dog light after all, lol. well see though. Ill give her a couple more days to see how they like the light and ill re-evaluate again. Just by the difference in progress from the day i put that fucker in, i would hate to think that ill lose that much weight by putting the 600w back in.

Ill have pics up some time tomorrow, as soon as i play with my phone for a minute n figure out how to use it.

Wuddup everyone just stoppin in to check in with u guys. This Fuckin phone wasn't made for the fat fingered motherfuckers in the world that's for damn sure, LOL. Took me like ten minutes to type this little graph out man touch screens suck for typing LOL. Anyways ill post a couple pics In a little bit man Soon as
I getbhome and. Connect this Fuckin stupid thing to my of.

Whats up man, how was the christmas? Having fun with the eye-fone? Can't wait to see some pics bro. I just posted the newest ones of my shrooms man. Its getting fun now, they showed there little heads. Its gonna be no time till they are full size bitchs! I'll catch ya later, make sure you check out the pics! lol, I'm all excited !