Kieth Olbermann Suspended by MSNBC For Political Contributions

jeff f

New Member
i am sad to see him go. i want all uberlibs to keep talking. its the best ammo conservatives have, the words of a lib.

what did msnbc lose? about 3 veiwers maybe? ;-)
 

mrboots

Well-Known Member
Heres the deal: MSNBC usually supports the Democrats
FoxNews usually supports the Republicans
ESPN usually talks about sports
The Food Network usually talks about recipies

If you want to know what to make for dinner, don't turn on ESPN
If you want to see people get excited about Republicans winning elections, don't turn on MSNBC
 

doc111

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Heres the deal: MSNBC usually supports the Democrats
FoxNews usually supports the Republicans
ESPN usually talks about sports
The Food Network usually talks about recipies

If you want to know what to make for dinner, don't turn on ESPN
If you want to see people get excited about Republicans winning elections, don't turn on MSNBC
Ummmmm, Ok?:?
 

irieie

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How does this compare to fox news? There are multiple people being paid by Fox News to essentially run for office as Republican candidates. If you count not just their hosts but their contributors, you're looking at a significant portion of the entire Republican lineup of potential contenders for 2012.
 

doc111

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How does this compare to fox news? There are multiple people being paid by Fox News to essentially run for office as Republican candidates. If you count not just their hosts but their contributors, you're looking at a significant portion of the entire Republican lineup of potential contenders for 2012.
He's been reinstated so his suspension is over, he is back to work. It was a direct violation of MSNBC's own rules, rules he could've easily sidestepped but didn't. He also has been harping on Fox's conservative commentators donating to republican candidates for quite some time now. I would say it's what we've come to expect from our celebrities, political figures, sports figures, etc. Not really surprising in the least when you really think about it. MSNBC has indicated with the very short length of the suspension that this type of thing is something that they don't take too seriously apparently. I think Kieth is a funny guy and have been watching him for years as mentioned in my previous posts. I actually am a fan of his, just not his political views.;-)
 

irieie

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it seems to me that MSNBC did this to try and set them apart from fox news and their practices. MSNBC is increasingly gaining the reputation as a liberal fox news. by suspending oberman publicly it seems that they are trying to say "see, we may be biased, but we are still a news organization, not a stump for political parties,movements,or figures to broadcast their agenda." i am not trying to put words in your mouth but it seems that you are saying because of the laughable implementation of this suspension, it de-ligitimizes any message they were trying to send.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I have a hard time watching both msnbc and fauxnews these days, and stick to PBS. But its funny that he is back in already. You knew that wouldn't last. And yes, much better on espn.
 

doc111

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it seems to me that MSNBC did this to try and set them apart from fox news and their practices. MSNBC is increasingly gaining the reputation as a liberal fox news. by suspending oberman publicly it seems that they are trying to say "see, we may be biased, but we are still a news organization, not a stump for political parties,movements,or figures to broadcast their agenda." i am not trying to put words in your mouth but it seems that you are saying because of the laughable implementation of this suspension, it de-ligitimizes any message they were trying to send.
I wouldn't call it a laughable implemenatation as much as a laughable duration.;-)

De-legitimizes? I don't know if it completely de-legitimizes it, I just think it sends the message that they don't consider it a serious matter. Either way, I'm glad to see him back because I honestly don't think he should've lost his job over it or anything. It seems all too often these days places either completely overreact or underreact to these sorts of things. Truth be told I'd rather see them underreact instead of ruining someone's career and possibly their life over something relatively benign or trivial. :leaf:
 

jeff f

New Member
How does this compare to fox news? There are multiple people being paid by Fox News to essentially run for office as Republican candidates. If you count not just their hosts but their contributors, you're looking at a significant portion of the entire Republican lineup of potential contenders for 2012.
youre just mad that americans are getting to know them, and guess what? americans like them. most like them way more than obama. weird huh?
 

jeff f

New Member
it seems to me that MSNBC did this to try and set them apart from fox news and their practices. MSNBC is increasingly gaining the reputation as a liberal fox news. by suspending oberman publicly it seems that they are trying to say "see, we may be biased, but we are still a news organization, not a stump for political parties,movements,or figures to broadcast their agenda." i am not trying to put words in your mouth but it seems that you are saying because of the laughable implementation of this suspension, it de-ligitimizes any message they were trying to send.

you are miss reading the whole situation. olberman could have easily done it correctly, legally but he didnt. the fox guys are doing it legally, just like olberman could have but CHOSE not to.

most journalistic rules are you can donate but it has to be concealed somehow. not really positive but its something like that. he violatated a rule, not a law.

i personally i like olberman on sports. in politics he is a total, lying. scumbag, asshole, who can die in his own vomit, while getting raped by a gang of pigmies......i dont like him in sports.
 

jeff f

New Member
I wouldn't call it a laughable implemenatation as much as a laughable duration.;-)

De-legitimizes? I don't know if it completely de-legitimizes it, I just think it sends the message that they don't consider it a serious matter. Either way, I'm glad to see him back because I honestly don't think he should've lost his job over it or anything. It seems all too often these days places either completely overreact or underreact to these sorts of things. Truth be told I'd rather see them underreact instead of ruining someone's career and possibly their life over something relatively benign or trivial. :leaf:

agreed. and look who ALWAYS does this....libs. the right always fire the people too but its because the left puts immense pressure on the right.

chill the fuck out, its only FREE FUCKING SPEECH. lefties get a fucking clue and learn the constitution please. it will change your mind about things like this....firings for simple speech. this is as anti-american as it gets and it is the biggest threat to a free people. nothing trumps speech, nothing.

the real stories must not be told in order to rule the people. its step one of oppression. libs dont like to hear disent. they want their way adapted, period.

property rights are a close second, but speech is the key.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Ok, so olbermann was canned.

Now, was it because of his donations or did his show just suck?
 

Johnnyorganic

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Ok, so olbermann was canned.

Now, was it because of his donations or did his show just suck?
He was not canned. It was all about the money.

The way way I understand it, he has a habit of threatening to quit every time his contract is up. MSNBC thought that is what this was, but what they did not figure on was that he has a new agent.

When the network did not meet his salary demands, the new agent was not fucking around. Nobody saw it coming. Apparently his staff discovered it when he announced it on the air.

I think it would be awesome if Fox would make him an offer.

If this talking head was on the Right, how many on the Left would add the adjective 'Greedy' before his name?
 

UncleBuck

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He was not canned. It was all about the money.

The way way I understand it, he has a habit of threatening to quit every time his contract is up. MSNBC thought that is what this was, but what they did not figure on was that he has a new agent.

When the network did not meet his salary demands, the new agent was not fucking around. Nobody saw it coming. Apparently his staff discovered it when he announced it on the air.

I think it would be awesome if Fox would make him an offer.

If this talking head was on the Right, how many on the Left would add the adjective 'Greedy' before his name?
if he was a talking head on the right, i would call him a 'sell out', rather than 'greedy'. in fact, 'opportunistic' would actually be the right word for it. but i can see how you are simply trying to caricaturize the left, so go ahead. i don't need to make a caricature of most of those on the right, they do that all by themselves *tee hee*

but not you, you are one of the good ones, meep moop (note the reference to 'mr. show', which you should watch).

i heard it may have something to do with the nbc/comcast merger as well. ah, i'll just go check huffpo. quite a mystery and very sudden though. he even has to stay off the air for an entire year. strange.
 

UncleBuck

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Ok, so olbermann was canned.

Now, was it because of his donations or did his show just suck?
preface: i do not like most of the people on msnbc. i can not stand schultz or matthews, and only occasionally watch more than a few minutes of maddow.

that said, i did watch as much as 50% of olbermann. his show did not suck, it was rather catchy and quick moving most of the time. he was a little over the top at times, but at times it was called for and very engaging.

i am glad o'donnell will take his place. i really like that guy, although he is even further left than me, apparently. he is very sharp and almost never gets over the top.

edit - matthews has his moments, and is a history buff. i like the guy. i just hate his show
 

Johnnyorganic

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if he was a talking head on the right, i would call him a 'sell out', rather than 'greedy'. in fact, 'opportunistic' would actually be the right word for it. but i can see how you are simply trying to caricaturize the left, so go ahead. i don't need to make a caricature of most of those on the right, they do that all by themselves *tee hee*

but not you, you are one of the good ones, meep moop (note the reference to 'mr. show', which you should watch).

i heard it may have something to do with the nbc/comcast merger as well. ah, i'll just go check huffpo. quite a mystery and very sudden though. he even has to stay off the air for an entire year. strange.
I don't know this 'mr.show' of which you speak.

So your, 'meep moop' reference had no effect on me.

Complement.... Disparagement....

Who knows?

Who cares?

This is my source:
http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/nbcu-statement-msnbc-and-keith-olberman-have-ended-their-contract-last-show-tonight/
 

redivider

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i didn't think he was fired or he quit.

I read MSNBC bought out the remainder of the contract for less money and added the young turks guy to make the network more profitable.....

but i'm just speculating... it doesn't matter... i didn't even like his show....
 

xxRolandxx

Active Member
He had 2 years on his contract left, so wherever you heard this was a negotiation ploy lied to you. And where did you get this "he has a new agent"? This has everything to do with Comcast and their recently approved buyout of NBC (including MSNBC). He was the highest rated show on MSNBC. In addition because of the terms of his contract buyout he has a non-compete for 1 year. Im not sure if he can blog or not though. Ill be watching DailyKos because he is a regular contributor there.

They have hated him for ages (senior management) because they are all rightists (especially the new Comcast boys) and he was a reasonable and respectable voice from the left. Now all that is left is Cenk (who is not reasonable, and loves attacking Obama) from the Young Turks and Lawrence O'Donnell who can put you to sleep with a single monologue. So best voice on the left on the only station left that even has a left...gone and replaced with crap. So much for the so called "liberal media". Fox News is so far to the right they donate to the GOP and dont even bat an eye (literally News Corps donated a ton of money to the RNC last election..didnt even cover it on their station). CNN is pure garbage. MSNBC is being dismantled and the Right Wing will shortly run all media on TV. Another reason to cut the cord.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
He had 2 years on his contract left, so wherever you heard this was a negotiation ploy lied to you. And where did you get this "he has a new agent"? This has everything to do with Comcast and their recently approved buyout of NBC (including MSNBC). He was the highest rated show on MSNBC. In addition because of the terms of his contract buyout he has a non-compete for 1 year. Im not sure if he can blog or not though. Ill be watching DailyKos because he is a regular contributor there.

They have hated him for ages (senior management) because they are all rightists (especially the new Comcast boys) and he was a reasonable and respectable voice from the left. Now all that is left is Cenk (who is not reasonable, and loves attacking Obama) from the Young Turks and Lawrence O'Donnell who can put you to sleep with a single monologue. So best voice on the left on the only station left that even has a left...gone and replaced with crap. So much for the so called "liberal media". Fox News is so far to the right they donate to the GOP and dont even bat an eye (literally News Corps donated a ton of money to the RNC last election..didnt even cover it on their station). CNN is pure garbage. MSNBC is being dismantled and the Right Wing will shortly run all media on TV. Another reason to cut the cord.
lol!:clap::roll:


 

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