LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

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savage007

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kpmarine said:
Maybe I misread your dimensions then. Are they length x width x height? If so, I'd try to make it long enough to fit a 4 foot t5 setup in there. You'd need about 24"x47" roughly for an 8 bulb T5.So it would need to be a bit wider than that. That light should have the footprint to cover you for 3-5 mothers.
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No you have it right. I only had said amount of space to build the cabinet in and I maximized the flower partition. That's the space I ended up with for mothers, clones will be above with a height of 26". I have found this fixture any thoughts:

http://www.aquabuys.com/p/WP01020.html

Then if that is sufficient, what bulbs do I load her with, haha "load her with". I guess I will probably have a similar set of questions for the light above the clones. I want to build a aero unit for that as well and lighting with a t5 too...

Thanks for your input, much appreciated! :mrgreen:
 
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savage007

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kpmarine said:
I'm not seeing how you can squeeze 5 mothers in there. Plus, you'd have to use a 2', which is not very cost-effective, and has a tiny footprint. The 2' and 4' T5 bulbs are generally the same price. I can veg 6 reasonably sized plants under a 4' with 8 bulbs, but you need at least 24"x47" just for the light. If you're pulling that many clones off each plant, you need good sized mothers. That's all going to eat some space. How much space do your mothers take up currently? For a mother plant that you could pull 8 cuts the size you want, that is probably going to be at least 1sq.ft. of canopy. In my estimation, you'd need more space.
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Oops, the double respond, I thought it deleted my first response so i re-typed it.

Currently I have no mothers, I was attempting to incorporate some of Al B. Fuct's SOG/mother/cloning techniques but in a cabinet HP aero grow. So heavy pruning of mothers, 3-5 of them was my thoughts. If I have 3 mothers in there, just under 4 sq ft, possibly under a 36" 4 bulb T5 maybe 8-10 cuts a plant gives me 24-30 cuts...20 of which would be used every 4 weeks.

The one unit i found bumbling around is 36" 156W 4 bulb, im sure theres others, could be enough for what im asking given the space restrictions I've created? Hard to say im sure but if so I could dump in the proper bulbs and be on the "path", so to say.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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savage007 said:
Oops, the double respond, I thought it deleted my first response so i re-typed it.

Currently I have no mothers, I was attempting to incorporate some of Al B. Fuct's SOG/mother/cloning techniques but in a cabinet HP aero grow. So heavy pruning of mothers, 3-5 of them was my thoughts. If I have 3 mothers in there, just under 4 sq ft, possibly under a 36" 4 bulb T5 maybe 8-10 cuts a plant gives me 24-30 cuts...20 of which would be used every 4 weeks.

The one unit i found bumbling around is 36" 156W 4 bulb, im sure theres others, could be enough for what im asking given the space restrictions I've created? Hard to say im sure but if so I could dump in the proper bulbs and be on the "path", so to say.
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No worries, the double post happens to us all at times. haha

It would be tight, but I have no shortage of space. So it may just be that I enjoy having more room than I need is affecting how I'm looking at this. However, you are going to need more than 156w for 3 plants, if you want a decent growth rate. If you threw in some lower or side lighting too, you might be able to pull it off that way. Maybe if you could squeeze about 4 more 36" on the sides. As far as which bulbs, I'll leave that up to those who have been playing around with the new stuff. I think for veg, people found some pretty affordable setups now.
 
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savage007

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kpmarine said:
No worries, the double post happens to us all at times. haha

It would be tight, but I have no shortage of space. So it may just be that I enjoy having more room than I need is affecting how I'm looking at this. However, you are going to need more than 156w for 3 plants, if you want a decent growth rate. If you threw in some lower or side lighting too, you might be able to pull it off that way. Maybe if you could squeeze about 4 more 36" on the sides. As far as which bulbs, I'll leave that up to those who have been playing around with the new stuff. I think for veg, people found some pretty affordable setups now.
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Thank you for sharing your information/experience! I will look into it further :D
 
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savage007

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kpmarine said:
Sadly, this thread doesn't seem to see as much traffic anymore. Hopefully someone can help you further.
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Yes that I can see, I was browsing another thread last night here:
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/545857-advanced-lighting-spectrums-t5-floro-33.html

Going to post there and see if Fonz, Pet, or another has any suggestions. Thank you again for your input! I will be starting a journal/thread here shortly when my cabinet is finished :blsmoke: time for a morning puff....
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Pet knows what's up, he should be able to assist. Throw up your thread on here when you set it up, I'm curious to see how this works out for you.
 
Fonzarelli

Fonzarelli

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savage007 said:
Yes that I can see, I was browsing another thread last night here:
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/545857-advanced-lighting-spectrums-t5-floro-33.html

Going to post there and see if Fonz, Pet, or another has any suggestions. Thank you again for your input! I will be starting a journal/thread here shortly when my cabinet is finished :blsmoke: time for a morning puff....
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What exactly do you need help with? I can help with spectrum questions. Doesn't look like you are receiving good help from this guy. PM of you need anything. This thread isn't really happening anymore. Lol
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Fonzarelli said:
What exactly do you need help with? I can help with spectrum questions. Doesn't look like you are receiving good help from this guy. PM of you need anything. This thread isn't really happening anymore. Lol
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Wow, dick statement man. Way to come off as a tool...
 
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novice11

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kpmarine said:
Wow, dick statement man. Way to come off as a tool...
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Wow - no idea where THAT statement comes from...Fonz has been very helpful to just about everyone. Plus he bought a quite expensive spectrometer - a lot more than a few hundred bucks - on his own dime in order to publish the graphs that show which bulbs have what spectrums.

You must be new to the thread...that would be the only excuse I could think of.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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novice11 said:
Wow - no idea where THAT statement comes from...Fonz has been very helpful to just about everyone. Plus he bought a quite expensive spectrometer - a lot more than a few hundred bucks - on his own dime in order to publish the graphs that show which bulbs have what spectrums.

You must be new to the thread...that would be the only excuse I could think of.
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fucking stupid.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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Fonzarelli said:
What exactly do you need help with? I can help with spectrum questions. Doesn't look like you are receiving good help from this guy. PM of you need anything. This thread isn't really happening anymore. Lol
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somewhat stupid, your better than that fonz hes was only trying to help.


@ SAVAGE007 I AM AN ACTIVE USER ON DAILY IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO ASK. HERE OR IN A PM.

ALSO YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ACTIVE SINCE YESTERDAY YET YOU POSTED 5 DAYS AGO DO YOU NEED HELP OR NOT?


 
majestic 12

majestic 12

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Jesus the drama in here is fucking laughable ..
sounds like my Daughter and her friends when they sleep over
and stay up till 5 am ..
and they're teenage gals.....got the point ...??


Fonz I appreciate the help my man ..
Just Grabbed a few T5 Quantum badboy hoods and a sun system designer 8 bulb
have the 4 bulbs quantums over my clones and the 8 bulb designer over my rooted
cuts ..


These are currently with quantum 6500 and flora suns staggered every other ..
media is coco ...rooting like gangbusters in the clear cups..


With that 2 bulb configuration in mind do you think I need to add anything else
that will actually make a difference ? It seems to be kicking ass so far ..


Take care


and don't worry about the lil girls here with the emotional problems
they most likely havn't had mommy bring them a pop tart and getting
irritable.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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majestic 12 said:
Jesus the drama in here is fucking laughable ..
sounds like my Daughter and her friends when they sleep over
and stay up till 5 am ..
and they're teenage gals.....got the point ...??


Fonz I appreciate the help my man ..
Just Grabbed a few T5 Quantum badboy hoods and a sun system designer 8 bulb
have the 4 bulbs quantums over my clones and the 8 bulb designer over my rooted
cuts ..


These are currently with quantum 6500 and flora suns staggered every other ..
media is coco ...rooting like gangbusters in the clear cups..


With that 2 bulb configuration in mind do you think I need to add anything else
that will actually make a difference ? It seems to be kicking ass so far ..


Take care


and don't worry about the lil girls here with the emotional problems
they most likely havn't had mommy bring them a pop tart and getting
irritable.
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Someone needed to get their post count up.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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majestic 12 said:
Jesus the drama in here is fucking laughable ..
sounds like my Daughter and her friends when they sleep over
and stay up till 5 am ..
and they're teenage gals.....got the point ...??


Fonz I appreciate the help my man ..
Just Grabbed a few T5 Quantum badboy hoods and a sun system designer 8 bulb
have the 4 bulbs quantums over my clones and the 8 bulb designer over my rooted
cuts ..


These are currently with quantum 6500 and flora suns staggered every other ..
media is coco ...rooting like gangbusters in the clear cups..


With that 2 bulb configuration in mind do you think I need to add anything else
that will actually make a difference ? It seems to be kicking ass so far ..


Take care


and don't worry about the lil girls here with the emotional problems
they most likely havn't had mommy bring them a pop tart and getting
irritable.
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shit maybe swap some 1000k in there but should be fine probably does kick ass. simple is better often times. maybe when you got to flower add some 660nm UVL in placr of a florasun or 2 but thats about all you would need to do to that setup.
 
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