Chillin chillin
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With a 3 week veg I pull down every 49-56 days getting 1.12- 1.34 gpw, can flip a room 6-7 times a year that way while vegging separately.
lets talk yield, .5g to 2.5 grams per watt. how can we get there?
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tezzerLad
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I read a post from here about 6 years ago, an old timer told me he'd uses liquid seaweed/kelp in flower to get solid hard heavy buds.
He said i'v used it for 40yrs and i'v only not used it once and never not not used it again lol if this makes sense
for some reason idk they get real hard and solid.
anyone know about this? heard about it ? think its shit ? tried it ?
He said i'v used it for 40yrs and i'v only not used it once and never not not used it again lol if this makes sense
for some reason idk they get real hard and solid.
anyone know about this? heard about it ? think its shit ? tried it ?
coreywebster
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Plenty use it. Seems Kelp is a wonder plant for both horticultural and health supplement uses.I read a post from here about 6 years ago, an old timer told me he'd uses liquid seaweed/kelp in flower to get solid hard heavy buds.
He said i'v used it for 40yrs and i'v only not used it once and never not not used it again lol if this makes sense
for some reason idk they get real hard and solid.
anyone know about this? heard about it ? think its shit ? tried it ?
Think I will try it myself next run and see what occurs. Only problem is I don't have means to test out potency levels but checking density is easy enough.
ttystikk
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How to get from. 5 to 1gpw; good basic farming skills.
From there, things get complicated. A list of things that will help;
-Top quality genetics
-Highly efficient COB LED lighting
-Nutrients on point
-Completely sealed and fully controlled environment with plenty of excess HVAC capacity
-CO2 supplementation
Also, going for gpw to the exclusion of all else means giving up on yield density, so expect to need at least twice as much space as higher density approaches.
At some point, going for extreme numbers leads to diminishing returns.
From there, things get complicated. A list of things that will help;
-Top quality genetics
-Highly efficient COB LED lighting
-Nutrients on point
-Completely sealed and fully controlled environment with plenty of excess HVAC capacity
-CO2 supplementation
Also, going for gpw to the exclusion of all else means giving up on yield density, so expect to need at least twice as much space as higher density approaches.
At some point, going for extreme numbers leads to diminishing returns.
Alienwidow
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Hahaha, you know point two on your list isnt necessity. 1-2lbs per light with DE hid lights is common without even trying. Rdwc and DEs will get you 2.5lbs per light easy. Id bet DE vert canopy stadium sog could pull 3lbs per light.
Edited from gpw to lbs per light, cause im a dipshit.
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ttystikk
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Try it and get back to us.
Alienwidow
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I wish my numbers let me have more fun. And DEs dont come in vert yet i think. Id love to stadium a grow. Its probably on my bucket list.
tezzerLad
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yep that's what i got taught, i'v tested it myself and it works.
My buds lasted me months longer to smoke, so they was heavier and denser, months longer, i didn't weigh it, but the rock hard.
tezzerLad
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coreywebster
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Yeah, no worries, I will look into getting some. I wont be starting my next run for at least a month though, still halfway through sorting my new room out. But yep, I'm up for a side by side, I always use canna boost so will do all with that and full canna coco range and run a half or a third with kelp. Will keep them separate come harvest/drying and note the weight and taste difference if there is any.
There will be a few changes in my next run but will happily try a side by side.
I really wanted to use mammoth P but cant get it in my country and adding shipping from USA will make it far too expensive. I emailed them asking about European distribution but not heard a thing back.
Anyway when it comes to my next run I will start a thread on the side by side.
EDIT, that is if I can run it with my current range. Must research more. If not I will run it as I can.
here's I tiny article http://www.growgreatvegetables.com/fertilizers/liquid-seaweed-fertilizer/
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since1991
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Here we go again....the easy crowd. No its not easy. Its certainly not common and quite frankly i dont think its possible to pull 5 or 6 pounds even from a double ended thousand watt. Wow. Most good growers will say a 15 to 25% increase in final dry weight yield across the board with double ended hps lamps. And thats a HUGE increase for paying the same amount in electricity. Pulling double or triple the yield....cmon.
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since1991
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Now double ended lamps used where they were originally intended....which is supplemental lighting for decent sized greenhouses is a whole different story. Tty is rite in saying there comes a point where your hitting diminishing returns. Then its greenhouse time with hps lamps as a supplement light . Which is where the industry is heading towards. Then the whole grams per watt gets thrown out the door.
irish grower
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me and me bird ran 4 incredible bulk strains on a 600w sunmaster for 10 weeks veg 10 weeks flower,looked after them like babies so we did,we got 17.5 wet and 5 dry,we are first timers to the grow game,long time smokers were just sick of paying for it, now we have 10 on the go 6 incredible bulk pinapple chunk blue dream,im just happy to get some decent smoke that we grew with our hands,and the end of the day isint that what its all about,big up the irish and happy growing people
since1991
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Yup. Exactly. Hey...that Pineapple Chunk is an under the radar all around great strain huh? My cousin and several other growers have ran that and have nothing but great things to say about the old Chunk. Thinking about running it myself.
irish grower
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ye man it just sounded nice,were new to the grow game so were just learning as we go mate,i think its fun to be fair,i put the pc in the sun yesterday loved it it did,grew new true leafs over nite,its back in me grow room now tho we dont get good weather here so,just try it lad im gona try everything now lol
tezzerLad
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you want to watch out for iron toxity with the liquid kelp, it's full of it.
i'v had a few minor probs before with it.
irish grower
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what liquid kelp lad,im just using 10ml to 700mil of algagrow il be using the same for flowering just has lower n in it,thanks any comments greatly appreciated remember were new to the game
Sophie2kay8
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New to the game how much u charge per hour ? Lol
irish grower
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for you,very special price lol xxx
Sophie2kay8
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Ooo I am a lucky lady 
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