Life in occupied Palestine.

socalcoolmx said:

He's Biased? what about you, He's an Israeli Professor who grad from Oxford, He sounds like he"s for living together peacefuly you sound like your for killing al palestinians until you can take all the land, we must stop the killing

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A higher education makes a bullshitter better at it. When HAMAS stops, so will Isreal. They have many times, back to Arafat. But, no good faith on either side. It is there war and we all want peace and free soup for the hungry.

That makes this guy a deeper and more fulsome liar, is all. He got you. He wants to forget the past? HAMAS and the Brotherhood are Gestapo. They will not forgive and forget. But, they will ruthlessly play your heart strings. They have gotten you to ignore all that has been brought to the Jews, to get them so vicious.

All the bombing of Jewish school children by Arafat, the 1948 War, the Nazi Purge, Stalin's purge, all the way back to burning Jews in Europe just because they so successful it must be sorcery, back to to the Church running them out of all towns for God murder as early as 250 CE.

As I said, I know a lot more because I have no agenda like your peaceful appeaser of Gestapo. It ain't over and this is all about the continuation of WW2 in the Levant, and not about Israel being a bad boy.

I'm sorry but no amount of smoke can justify the ethnic cleansing being carried out by Israel against the Palestinians, things are changing very fast, let's stay on the subject of Israel Palestine and the current conditions of the palestinian people and thier extreme suffering and not the pain and suffering of the european jews they (the Palestinains) really had nothing to do with that, please don't use that excuse for killing, like I said , the molested child has now become the child molester himself.

But, the bias is yours, to just label it ethic cleansing, when 20% of Israel would say they Palestinian Arabs. It shows you simply are not up to this discussion.

You are bringing a bias that wants to ignore what has made this situation so bad. So all those missiles last Fall from HAMAS? The Jews. HAMAS weapon smuggling, HAMAS turning Gaza into a shit hole? The JEWS.

You are so deeply biased into blame Jews you want to ignore history. There is no fresh start and Israel is forced to give HAMAS and Hizbollah and the Brotherhood, what the desperately need to cling to power.

An enemy. So, you apologize for HAMAS and so are brainwashed to blame the Jews and forget the history of a self ruled nation with 20% Arabs. And what about the West Bank, no cleansing there.

So, grow up a bit and think. You only call it ethnic cleansing, as advertised by Gestapo, the architect of purging Jews.

Is Israel cleansing the Palestinians that are elected to their Parliament representing 20% of the population? Are they cleansing the 20%? Silly boy.

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Have you watched the whole video? can you point out the errors in his account of Israel history and why does the whole world except US condemn Israels policies, Its American and Canadian Jews Like these guys who will have to except alot of the blame for these atrocities. I know what the european settlers did in america was wrong ( ethnic cleansing ) but its to late to do anything but we can do something about the ethnic cleansing going on in Israel-Palestine. The american jewish community already has blood on their hands, I don't.

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Has who watched you silly video? To whom are you directing this absurd rant? It could be directed at anyone, or everyone, or even no-one. It could even be directed at the imaginary people who tell you to "Kill Every Jew On Earth Because The Are ALL Servants Of Molloch!"
No-one knows who you are addressing, but since your "sponse" (Re-Sponse requires a comment to which you may direct your Re-Tort) is irrational and absurd, it doesnt matter anyhow. It is Irrelevant.

socalcoolmx said:

He's Biased? what about you, He's an Israeli Professor who grad from Oxford, He sounds like he"s for living together peacefuly you sound like your for killing al palestinians until you can take all the land, we must stop the killing

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again, to whom this might be addressed remains a mystery. If only there were some way to indicate to whom you are referring or even to which comment you are responding. perhaps some method of "Replying" possibly while appending a quote which you might then use as a subject for your reply?

Yeah they should totally put that on this forum. Maybe a button that says "Reply With Quote"

Maybe they could put it at the bottom right corner of every post too. We should all request that feature it may prove useful.

Who's with me?

Well, if he wasn't shadow ranting at Jews, then.....sativia?

socalcoolmx said:

I'm sorry but no amount of smoke

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What smoke? There's smoke? is it Dank? How dank is it?

socalcoolmx said:

can justify the ethnic cleansing being carried out by Israel against the Palestinians,

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1100% more palestinians (yes, eleven times more, that's not a typo) now than in 1948... worst ethnic cleansing EVER!

socalcoolmx said:

things are changing very fast,

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What things are changing? How are they changing? Why does this have relevance to a dispute between moslems and jews thats been ongoing since 760 ad? without actu8ally explaining what you mean you are not making an argument, you are just talking.

socalcoolmx said:

let's stay on the subject of Israel Palestine

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Yes, lets do. Israel, granted to the Israeli Authority by the UN Mandatory Authority,, who inturn were granted it by the British Mandatory Authority, who in turn received it from the Ottoman empire in their defeat and armistice agreement, who in turn received it from the arab moslem empire when they were conquered, who in turn received it from the Israelis when THEY were conquered, after taking it back from the Romans after rome fell, who in turn got it from conquering the persian empire version 1.0, who in turn got it from the baylonians, who in turn got it from the israelis when they conquered them, who in turn got their shit back after overthrowing the egyptians, who in turn got it from conquering the israelis, who in turn got it from conquering the philistines who in turn got it from conquering the earlier nomadic peoples of the region who got it by wandering over from the eastern mountains of indo-china... what particular part do you insist is more valid?

socalcoolmx said:

and the current conditions of the palestinian people and thier extreme suffering

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as opposed to... say... the people of the Palestinian Authority who get machinegunned at their weddings and funerals if they are members of the Fatah party instead of Hamas? yeah. who causes their suffering? THEY DO.

socalcoolmx said:

and not the pain and suffering of the european jews

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jews in europe arent enduring much pain and suffering right now. what does this have to do with israel and the palestinians? i thought we were staying on the subject?

socalcoolmx said:

they (the Palestinains) really had nothing to do with that,

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except that one guy who machinegunned a jewish preschool in france. those european jews got pain and suffering at the hands of a palestinian, IN FRANCE! but by all means lets stay on the israeli/palestinian thing, not the "palestinians pissing off half the planet" thing.

socalcoolmx said:

please don't use that excuse for killing,

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yeah. lets only talk about the pallies' excuses for their killings,, and hurl brickbats at the israelis for trying to keep nutbars who stuff boimbs in retarded kids' backpacks out of THEIR country.

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like I said , the molested child has now become the child molester himself.

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yep. mohammed sure did love his 7 year old wife. but he's not a perv, so he didnt fuck her till she hit the ripe old age of 9. what a champ.

that was what you were referring to right?

Hey, cowboy, some real poetry there in the middle.

....Got it back, got it back, Israel got it back. Boom, sha boo.

I wish I'd have learned that in Sunday school, instead of ....Joshua fit the battle of Jericho.

Good stuff.

And there is no one cleaned over there. According to my dad that trained Jordanian pilots, Israel pilots, Egyptian, Saudi, all that and was also responsible as section chief of keeping them apart.

But, according the him, each of these guys look, act and above all smell the same.

So, when Israel was doing the Got it back, where was the mighty nation of Palestine?

Oh right, the Philistines. Oh lord I pray I'm not like them. That is in the Bible.

They are a dog kicked tribe of Arabs interbreed with a dog kicked pack of Jews. That's the truth. We have discussed the gene graphs.

lying is the worst sin because it allows all other sins to occur. The lie is the "mother of all sins" because it is the lie that protects all the other sins and crimes.
The Israeli government knows this and uses what is call the bold-faced lie to cover all of their crimes. Through Zionist control of the mass media, Israeli lies have become American truths. This explains the U.S. predicament in the Middle East and why Americans are blind to the realities of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

socalcoolmx said:

lying is the worst sin because it allows all other sins to occur. The lie is the "mother of all sins" because it is the lie that protects all the other sins and crimes.
The Israeli government knows this and uses what is call the bold-faced lie to cover all of their crimes. Through Zionist control of the mass media, Israeli lies have become American truths. This explains the U.S. predicament in the Middle East and why Americans are blind to the realities of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

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Nice copy/paste.

Did you plagiarize that all by yourself or did you steal it from somebody else who stole it from the original author?

Also it's pure bullshit.
it contains:

An unfounded assumption, which is just an opinion, dressed up as a fact: "lying is the worst sin"

Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc: "because it allows all other sins to occur"

A redundant phrase echoing the first fallacy, say it twice and it becomes twice as dumb: "The lie is the "mother of all sins"

And now for that sweet double down on stupid: "because it is the lie that protects all the other sins and crimes."

Poor grammar AND an ad hominem based on an unsubstantiated claim: "The Israeli government knows this and uses what is call the bold-faced lie to cover all of their crimes." (thats not even the aphorism... it's a BALD FACED LIE)

And just to make it perfect, a fresh scoop of dogshit on top:"Through Zionist control of the mass media, Israeli lies have become American truths. This explains the U.S. predicament in the Middle East and why Americans are blind to the realities of the Arab-Israeli conflict."

i have to assume you lifted this without attribution from some other asshole's moronic screed about the evils of "Das Juden!" (that's plagiarism by the way), but if you did in fact scribble this doggerel yourself, then you are revealing heretofore unsuspected layers of idiocy, and since the idiocy thus far displayed has been severe, i can only assume you have been taking lessons in dumbassery at the Community College. .

Dr Kynes said:

i have to assume you lifted this without attribution from some other asshole's moronic screed about the evils of "Das Juden!"

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Actually, you desperately want to assume it. You need to assume it in order for anything you have to say seem valid.

abandonconflict said:

Actually, you desperately want to assume it. You need to assume it in order for anything you have to say seem valid.

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and once again, you miss the point.

it really doesnt matter if he wrote it, (but the style is so markedly different from his usual twatter blurtings that i assume he stole it) however, even if he simply lifted it from another fool's writings,, he still posted it, and thus appends his own name to it, much as achmeddinejhad 'quoting the grand ayatollah" does not excuse the quoting itself, not his own assertion that the quote "is a wise thing" regarding "lifting/cleansing" israel form the "pages of time/map"

if you quote another asshole, even if you just regurgitate their ramblings, you establish that those ideas are cool with you, and thus you join that club.

people who quote somebody else,, and do not append editorial comments to clarify whether they agree or disagree with the statement are assumed to be asserting agreement with the statement.

example:

Religion and art spring from the same root and are close kin. Economics and art are strangers. ~Nathaniel Hawthorne

now even if you dont know anything about me, or my opinion on The Thorne-Dawg (only his homeboys can call him that), or my opinion on religion in general or art in general or economics in general, if i leave the quote at that, all by iself, then you would naturally presume i agree with it.

however...

Religion and art spring from the same root and are close kin. Economics and art are strangers. ~Nathaniel Hawthorne
which is bullshit, because that dude was a fucked up liar who kept 3 wives,,hunted children for sport and laid down the backing vocals on Ice Ice Baby for Vanilla Ice.

provides a clear and unabiguous disagreement which cannot be denied. You may say Nate Dawg wasnt a child murdering polygamist rapper, but you cannot assert that im a fan of the H-Man.

but on the other hand...

Religion and art spring from the same root and are close kin. Economics and art are strangers. ~Nathaniel Hawthorne
and this is a wise thing.



provides a clear unambiguous assertion that i agree with the statement and would have made it myself if Nattie H hadnt got there first.

so,, whether dingus lifted the quote in question or penned it himself,, the fact remains,, its dopey,, ignorant and full of bullshit, and he posted it,, so that turd still clings to his hands.

socalcoolmx said:

lying is the worst sin because it allows all other sins to occur. The lie is the "mother of all sins" because it is the lie that protects all the other sins and crimes.
The Israeli government knows this and uses what is call the bold-faced lie to cover all of their crimes. Through Zionist control of the mass media, Israeli lies have become American truths. This explains the U.S. predicament in the Middle East and why Americans are blind to the realities of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

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Sin is a religious concept, i reject. You lie, I lie, we all lie, and it's a lie to say we don't.

First you make up heaven and hell, then make up Sin as the ticket. Talk about mind control. Your's is, I'd say.

You are offering only an explanation of your bias. Since you have idea of the facts, you don't know what are the lies.

But, your were raised as a Christian that the Jews murdered God. We all were. Biased from birth by Church and Gestapo.

Doer said:

Sin is a religious concept, i reject. You lie, I lie, we all lie, and it's a lie to say we don't.

First you make up heaven and hell, then make up Sin as the ticket. Talk about mind control. Your's is, I'd say.

You are offering only an explanation of your bias. Since you have idea of the facts, you don't know what are the lies.

But, your were raised as a Christian that the Jews murdered God. We all were. Biased from birth by Church and Gestapo.

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If I ever meet you, it's cool to just shoot you in the face for no reason... Right?

Because morality is subjective, right?

Harrekin said:

If I ever meet you, it's cool to just shoot you in the face for no reason... Right?

Because morality is subjective, right?

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Sure. But, you better be quick....ha, ya missed it....OK one more time...don't blink...see you blinked....

Besides, don't tar me to a feathered cross. I didn't bad mouth the raising of childern in the morality of a Church education, did I?

No, you are trying wrap you own spadex knickers over what I said. I'll not go on...

I said God Murder.

You did not and cannot deny that until very recently, even we ourselves were taught that.

You cannot deny that this, God Murder, can be quite well documented to have cause the misery on untold numbers of people.

Just this one point, you and I and everyone that were exposed to Christendom, since there was such. God Murder?

Quite frankly that was the very concept the shook my faith, got me off my feed, questioning the program. Who is fooling, who. So Doer-quest here. I dug deep.

It boils down to the very real, fall of man, too far a stretch.A Big Lie. It is the thread that unravels the entire sordid tale for me.

Yes, toka-bro, tiz good, you don't shoot me on sight.

And maybe that's been the convenient way to teach morality in the Dark Ages and even today. But, if it has to be propped up by -damn an entire race of people for all time-
It smells fishy and I know why. The rest of the world does not have hell and hate Jews.

We know why we have it. In western culture. And I include you as well if you think about.

Don't just bang what I say with a twisted screw, up against the wall, if you don't mind.

It smudges me makie, doll.

At this point, the Palestine situation is actually quite simple. The country is evacuated, walled of, and then made into vapor and never occupied by another human again. Everybody loses everybody wins.

Doer said:

Sin is a religious concept, i reject. You lie, I lie, we all lie, and it's a lie to say we don't.

First you make up heaven and hell, then make up Sin as the ticket. Talk about mind control. Your's is, I'd say.

You are offering only an explanation of your bias. Since you have idea of the facts, you don't know what are the lies.

But, your were raised as a Christian that the Jews murdered God. We all were. Biased from birth by Church and Gestapo.

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wow, you just completely skirt the fact that perception is real, and mass perception is reality wither or not you do or dont believe in anything remotely religious is besides the point, they believe there for its true, got to be objective if you plant to analyze perception their . . cause your own is biased

reality is subjective to many things . .. .and personal opinion is as much fact as any tangible truth

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Hey, if you say Hell is real you can go to it. I agree with that.

But, sam, we are talking about a religion that has made up hell, and damn the Jews to it.

I don't go along with that. There was no hell in Judaism, you know that, right? A golum state until the end of days or something.

So, don't get horsed up until you study the argument.

I didn't make up Hell.

And you skirt the sad fact the Church preaches God Murder. No one will ride straight at that I see.