MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

martyg

Well-Known Member
I will make this bet with you....

they got all the LPs that they need. Would it not be easier to have 3 large LP that are easier to monitor and control than a hole bunch of smaller LPs? Think about it, lets suppose that you got approved today...... now build a building, set everything up, start clones, grow your herb, harvest, have your herb tested, packaged, and a stream of customers developed. you can do that in 4 months ??????????????

No, and neither can anyone else - it is impossible, and that becomes more and more true each day that passes.

I am calling BULLSHIT ! Canada's queen - harper - has out done himself this time..... With only 3 LP in this amount of time, it will take them about 100 years to get through the applications that they have now. i am not sure that our wonderful government has not led us all down BS BOLAVARD once again.

Got rid of all the people growing under the MMAR, reduced the sites to 3 that HC needs to monitor, and they got your address so they know where to come find all of us to fill their new jails. If you hated us as much as harper does, would you licence a bunch of LPs ? No and the conservatives will not either.

2012 nearly 190,000 kgs were produced under the MMAR for 30,000 people - thats about 6.3 kgs per person. under the new rules the most you can have in a year is 1.8 kgs (12 months X 150g/month) That is a 75 % reduction in product. If you consider how many people will not be able to afford their meds now, well this is going to be a bit of a fucking problem......... Some will keep growing, HC got your address and you can bet they will use it to out you. took harper awhile to figure out how to fuck with us but i think he has us right were he wants us.....

best bet now is to go back to court and sue HC. Over the last month we have all seen the senate scandle - they will ; lie. cheat, steal, what ever it takes for them to keep power over canadians.................

Best of luck with your application to become a LP - your government is working to fuck you up once again..... you can bet on it.
Finally someone else understands wtf is going on, there's only a few of us that do
 

Doobius1

Well-Known Member
Well said. This is where some wannabe says....'Ya but Uncle Stevie says 450,000 patients' I admire their drive and enthusiasm but not their nearsightedness. Lets seee...hmmm...how could I narrow down this list of 30,000 and get the lowdown on the biggest 150 growers in the country? Ask them to send me all their information...thats how. The devil is not stupid.
I will keep growing. Come get me motherfuckers. I will be waiting and ready for you to kick my door in and will have your ass in the Supreme Court. I was given the right to grow my own medicine by the courts and dictator Steve isnt stopping me without a warrent and tossing my sick old man ass in jail. I am being punished for the actions of others. I am being punished because this program was designed to fail. Want to start a war over 12 plants? Throw my ass in jail, watch 4 people lose their jobs. My original anger has morphed to a calm, relaxed state of preparation for this upcoming battle. A first year law student could win this one, the violition of our court appointed rights are that obvious.
 

Kron3007

Well-Known Member
Finally someone else understands wtf is going on, there's only a few of us that do
We had them contact us to move the application forward and we have been in direct contact with them. Unfortunately we have hit some zoning issues (which is not HC related) and need to find a new location, so our application will need to be re-submitted. Regardless, our application was moving along and I have no doubt they will grant more licenses.

We have also been in contact with other applicants that are further along in the process and have arranged site inspections.

You guys can believe what you will, but from our experience with HC it does not seem like a giant conspiracy and if your ducks are in a row I believe there is hope. That being said, your ducks better be in a row.
 

leaffan

Well-Known Member
Well said. This is where some wannabe says....'Ya but Uncle Stevie says 450,000 patients' I admire their drive and enthusiasm but not their nearsightedness. Lets seee...hmmm...how could I narrow down this list of 30,000 and get the lowdown on the biggest 150 growers in the country? Ask them to send me all their information...thats how. The devil is not stupid.
I will keep growing. Come get me motherfuckers. I will be waiting and ready for you to kick my door in and will have your ass in the Supreme Court. I was given the right to grow my own medicine by the courts and dictator Steve isnt stopping me without a warrent and tossing my sick old man ass in jail. I am being punished for the actions of others. I am being punished because this program was designed to fail. Want to start a war over 12 plants? Throw my ass in jail, watch 4 people lose their jobs. My original anger has morphed to a calm, relaxed state of preparation for this upcoming battle. A first year law student could win this one, the violition of our court appointed rights are that obvious.
How do you explain Natural Peace getting their license?
 

wurdperfect

New Member
I will make this bet with you....

they got all the LPs that they need. Would it not be easier to have 3 large LP that are easier to monitor and control than a hole bunch of smaller LPs? Think about it, lets suppose that you got approved today...... now build a building, set everything up, start clones, grow your herb, harvest, have your herb tested, packaged, and a stream of customers developed. you can do that in 4 months ??????????????

No, and neither can anyone else - it is impossible, and that becomes more and more true each day that passes.

I am calling BULLSHIT ! Canada's queen - harper - has out done himself this time..... With only 3 LP in this amount of time, it will take them about 100 years to get through the applications that they have now. i am not sure that our wonderful government has not led us all down BS BOLAVARD once again.

Got rid of all the people growing under the MMAR, reduced the sites to 3 that HC needs to monitor, and they got your address so they know where to come find all of us to fill their new jails. If you hated us as much as harper does, would you licence a bunch of LPs ? No and the conservatives will not either.

2012 nearly 190,000 kgs were produced under the MMAR for 30,000 people - thats about 6.3 kgs per person. under the new rules the most you can have in a year is 1.8 kgs (12 months X 150g/month) That is a 75 % reduction in product. If you consider how many people will not be able to afford their meds now, well this is going to be a bit of a fucking problem......... Some will keep growing, HC got your address and you can bet they will use it to out you. took harper awhile to figure out how to fuck with us but i think he has us right were he wants us.....

best bet now is to go back to court and sue HC. Over the last month we have all seen the senate scandle - they will ; lie. cheat, steal, what ever it takes for them to keep power over canadians.................

Best of luck with your application to become a LP - your government is working to fuck you up once again..... you can bet on it.
if they pull that crap, im using all the money i have ready to build the facility and use it towards suing them ! i have emails telling me explicitely " IF YOU meet the requirements, your going to get a license" and also that " there are no limits to the number of license we are going to deliver"
 

wurdperfect

New Member
We had them contact us to move the application forward and we have been in direct contact with them. Unfortunately we have hit some zoning issues (which is not HC related) and need to find a new location, so our application will need to be re-submitted. Regardless, our application was moving along and I have no doubt they will grant more licenses.

We have also been in contact with other applicants that are further along in the process and have arranged site inspections.

You guys can believe what you will, but from our experience with HC it does not seem like a giant conspiracy and if your ducks are in a row I believe there is hope. That being said, your ducks better be in a row.
How long did it take u to get from one stage to the other ?
 

kohaldawg

New Member
I've asked this Q before but I'll ask again, has anyone found a video surveillance solution that will store two years of data per camera that won't require 1000's of cds, 100's of servers, etc.?
 

Doobius1

Well-Known Member
How do you explain Natural Peace getting their license?
You talking about cash crop Ken? Loves to brag about how HE manipulated HC to implement this bullshit program. He is yet another reason to hate whats going on. He is on the inside with someone at HC plain and simple. How else can you explain that hes up and running and the other 149 of you have nothing but big dreams? He is going to have all 5000 patients signed up for a year before any of you even start a cutting.
 

leaffan

Well-Known Member
You talking about cash crop Ken? Loves to brag about how HE manipulated HC to implement this bullshit program. He is yet another reason to hate whats going on. He is on the inside with someone at HC plain and simple. How else can you explain that hes up and running and the other 149 of you have nothing but big dreams? He is going to have all 5000 patients signed up for a year before any of you even start a cutting.
No it isn't an inside connection at HC. It is plain and simple, you just haven't seen it. Knowing how they got their license is a key in understanding some aspects of the MMPR.
 

Reklov

Active Member
Hello everyone, new to the forum. Have spent yesterday reading up and through all the 66 pages by now. Thank you everyone for the insights and the generosity of sharing inputs.

HC has told me that by now over 300 (!) applications have gone in, from all sorts of people (growers, e-marketing specialists, entrepreneurs), for all sorts of size facilities, and in quality ranging from quite poor to very high. They tell me that so far there is no plan to limit the number of licenses they will give out. On the time horizon they were less clear. At the rate they are going this may take years...........
 

Reklov

Active Member
To my understanding u only need to store the videos for 2 years if there is an incident..
I second this understanding, this from HC's security guidance document:

Back-up mechanisms must ensure that all visual recordings and records of adetected occurrence be retained for two years. These back-up mechanisms mayinclude storing the visual recordings on multiple media devices.
 

Reklov

Active Member
I've asked this Q before but I'll ask again, has anyone found a video surveillance solution that will store two years of data per camera that won't require 1000's of cds, 100's of servers, etc.?
See my answer to this question or review this, on page 10http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/alt_formats/pdf/marihuana/info/bp-securit-eng.pdf

Hope this helps
 

R.Raider

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone, new to the forum. Have spent yesterday reading up and through all the 66 pages by now. Thank you everyone for the insights and the generosity of sharing inputs.

HC has told me that by now over 300 (!) applications have gone in, from all sorts of people (growers, e-marketing specialists, entrepreneurs), for all sorts of size facilities, and in quality ranging from quite poor to very high. They tell me that so far there is no plan to limit the number of licenses they will give out. On the time horizon they were less clear. At the rate they are going this may take years...........
Welcome to the forum. Over 300?? bet ya they didn't see that one coming. Wonder how they're going to handle everything?
 

Kootenaygirl

Active Member
Giligan's Island theme song or Rudolph the rednosed reindeer can work too.


Harper made the MMPR, trying to reduce pot crimes,
and if you ever read it, you would realize it's time.
Lots of wannabe LP's are, working on this new change,
to produce better varieties, in an even wider range.


On one cold December night, while reading the regs alone,
it was quite a shock to learn, were not allowed to grow our own.
All the patients across Canada, are going to feel the money squeeze,
no longer subsidizing their meds, on the lungs of our teens.


So now you have to make the choice, to support an LP or not,
You can score it from your biker friend , or get an LP's quality pot.
Support your local Angels club, or buy some labelled weed,
have a lawyer on retainer, or buy it through the legal means.


Canadan and Doobius, with Martyg in tow,
will tell you that all Harper did, was take away their right to grow.
LP's get blamed for selling out, somehow we are at fault,
when all we want is to help the sick, and have a great big vault.


The MMPR is the first step, toward legalization like beer,
first it has to get established, then it will crush the pricing fear.
Harper made the MMPR, fixing problems as you'll see.
If you'd just take the time to read it, there is no conspiracy.


We all want our personal ops, and they should never have been banned.
So light up all those protest grows, all across this very big land.
Don't blame the wannabe LP's, our government is confused,
We just wanna help patients, and don't appreciate all the abuse.


We are all doomsday preppers, doing it in our own way.
Growing mega marihuana, seems very A-okay.
If John Connroy has a case, we won't hear it any time soon.
It's too bad that in the meantime, all we hear is doom and gloom.


A light sprinkling of facts is nice, when your putting up a post.
Your naysay is a healthy way to chat from coast to coast.
But quit your fucking whining and tend your "protest grows",
Start looking toward the future, the MMAR really blows.
 

MarijeJane

Well-Known Member
Kootenaygirl, you have real talent and a great understanding of how most of us future LP's feel!!! Excellent job!
 
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