MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

I'll check it out, thanks for stopping by.

That's cool that the real Howard Marks had time to check out RIU.


I plan on keeping mothers, cloneing from the seed mother.

Having clones ready for a second round.

And keeping the best female from each strain, maybe more than one depending on charastics.

Most all my previous gardens were on rotation, I'd keep a mothering room through the summer, this is the first time in a while I've had to pop seeds.

That's what I thought, just didn't see it mentioned. Your space is similar to mine, yours is a little wider, not quite as long. I would trade the length for the 15' width in a heartbeat, but we work with what we have. I'm pretty sure it was in this forum, the search function doesn't work for me or I would find it, title was something about Mr. Nice and it was at least a year or more ago.
Maybe you can explain something I have always wondered about having to do with cloning and sexing, saving mothers etc. Information I have read suggest taking clones from your vegging plants and after they set roots you flower the clones to find out the sex of the original plants and culling the males out at that point. Ok, so you veg some seedlings for 4 weeks or longer, cut some clones, a couple of weeks for them to root and 2 to 4 weeks to determine sex. This means the originals are going to be vegging for about 10 weeks. Won't they be to big for a sog grow? VV

Hopefully, the seed mother, (original plant from seed) will be too big for SOG it will not be flowered, it will continue to be a mother plant.


As soon as there are a couple nodes on the seedlings, I'll top them for clones, and let the seed mother grow out for more clones.

Right, I'll cut clones, as soon as they root, I'll throw them into flower to sex them.

The mothers will grow out while the other clones get established and show sex, and the mothers will be ready to have more clones taken when flowers/sacs start forming.

Make sense?

It should only take a week for the clones to root, and a week to show sex. Maybe give it a week for the slow ones.

I hope to be flowering in four weeks, but it'll probably be five

So you begin topping before you know the sex and wait to flower anything. I haven't had clones set roots in a week or show sex in a week, maybe thats my problem. Takes longer to establish mothers the way I do it. It has taken me a while to top any plants, the first time I did it I had 8 colas on one plant, yield was lower than the ones I didn't top. VV

No, I top the mother plants, they are seedlings now, to get an idetical twin of the seedling. The seedling will always be a mother, never flowered. The more branches the better.

With the first clones from the mother, I flower them immediately to determine sex.

The topped seedlings will have more branches by then, for taking clones.

I use Rootech rooting gel, and Rapid Rooter plugs in a clone dome, under 4 x 40w AgroSun Full spectrum 4ft flourescents. I get roots in a week usually.

For the first week of flowering I use Advanced Nutrients Bud Blood, this will get them to start forming buds by the end of week 1, and really start blooming/stacking in week 2.

I don't top my plants for flowering. I supercrop, and trim for yield, stalking the branches.

sounds like you do have some experience.... this peeks my interest, as the method you described (minus some of the materials/equipment) is exactly the same as mine. I can't wait until this grow really gets under way for you, as it sounds very ideal. The more info and detail the better, as it sounds like a lot of growers could benefit from the information you could make available. Here is some rep for you...

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2 more Super Skunk seeds popped open today.

Starting to worry about the 9Mile.

Thanks for the support loadeddragon, I can't wait for things to get exciting, I was always bored with seeding, cloning. I want to get straight to flowering. This thread is gonna get boring for the next couple weeks IMO, but hey, I'll write up whatever I do, this is a diary of growing.

I'm a meticulous person, somewhat on the OCD level, so I'll put down pretty much everything. Gives me an idea.

On this thread I am using as much detail as possible, so if you think I am leaving anything out of it, please let me know.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/107493-theloadeddragons-full-year-grow-cycle.html

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My seedling mix;
50% perlite
40% sphagnum moss
10% peat moss

Planting and watering; after the seed pops open, I plant in a 16oz solo cup with 4 holes cut in the bottom for drainage. I fill the cup with the soiless mix, and water the hell out of it with plain pHed water. Give it a good rinse. Then let the excess drain off.
I plant the seed a cm from the top of the soil line, taproot down, and put a little of the mix over it.

That was one of the things I was doing wrong when I took the clones out of the aero cloners I made, I was planting them too deep, this is not good with a flood and drain system. It finally clicked when I was ready Al B's FAQ thread, the clones main root does need to be above the level of the flood, is his case the rockwool cube needs to be 1/2" above flood level. Stop laughing, I only did it twice,. VV

I'm really looking forward to seeing what you've got going on, get some pictures up on here! Making me super-anxious...

pce and <3

I guess I'll snap some pics of cups of dirt and shoplights in a closet, :yawn:

I'll also take some pics of the future grow room and my equipment.

Warning, this thread isn't going to get exciting for about 4-5 weeks.

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Well, none of the 9Mile germinated. So I put 10 more into the germination process.

I also put 6 Mango seeds into germination.

So far I have these seedlings;
3 Sensiseeds Super Skunk
2 DJ Short Blueberry
1 Silver Diesel

Germinating;
-6 Mango
-10 9Mile

I still have 5 Super Skunk seeds in reserve, but I hope one of the 3 is a female so I can keep them in reserve.

I have no idea why none of the 9mile germinated, they are 5 years old, but the DJ short seeds were even older.

I'll load some pics in a couple hours of progress.

MrHowardMarks said:

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Well, none of the 9Mile germinated. So I put 10 more into the germination process.

I also put 6 Mango seeds into germination.

So far I have these seedlings;
3 Sensiseeds Super Skunk
2 DJ Short Blueberry
1 Silver Diesel

Germinating;
-6 Mango
-10 9Mile

I still have 5 Super Skunk seeds in reserve, but I hope one of the 3 is a female so I can keep them in reserve.

I have no idea why none of the 9mile germinated, they are 5 years old, but the DJ short seeds were even older.

I'll load some pics in a couple hours of progress.

Click to expand...

do you fiower yours in small containers till sex is evident, then continue veging them in your choice containers, i 'd apprec. your hep.

Nope,

If you go back to posts 22-25, I explain it better to VV.

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Here are some pics of a few seedlings under flourescents in a closet

and some pics of the basement before I started cleaning up and setting up. The before and after pics will be done by the end of the week.

Along with pic of my equipment

I have space like that... all I need now is an electrician to come set up the electrical to handle what I want to have going in the space... your not an electrician are you???

thanks for the hep, i've never done much cloning, i bot a full
setup tho.Havent had the extra room.Thought about your deal,cleared out the garage,doors broke anyway on it ,cut out apiece in the middle of the gar.door and installed an air con. ordering another 600 hps, vortex fan the works , i may do the 3 and a half gal. thanx for the hep. thinking of yours really made me want to upgrade this op. i'm still gonna use my closet .i want a bumper crop of those mr.nice g13 hashplants. your answering all qestions everytime i read. sorry for askin somethin, you alredy expl.

howard what a honour to read your journal your the man thanks for sharing your wealth of knowladge respect............................