My 1st BubblePonics

Jozikins

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Now that is a perfectly captured pre-preflower! Pre flower action in the making right there in the heat of it all! Nice, super Killing Fields f3 mom, on her way.

The juiciest, the stickiest, the stankiest, the most purpley pin-striped KF3 mom in town. Everyone wants to strife up and down that shit.

Cue Hendrix again.... Ffffoooxxxxyyyy!
 

TheGreenHornet

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So today I decided that I really wanted to take some clones.. and with my T5's on the way I am not concerned that the plants will not develop more branches in time..

I flushed my 1in grodan rockwool cubes with ph'd water at about 6.3, and soaked em good. then i took my cuttings, gave em haircuts, and scraped up their sides pretty good near the bases of them > then into some clonex gel>then into the bottom of my empty dwc unit. I have a little tubberware dome I could put on, and i punched some holes in it.. but i want to make sure they have enough air..

I put two Killing Fields F3 cuts into the original holes in the grodan cubes, and then two JackHammers into holes I poked myself in the cubes, as I have read different things about taking clones, and this is my first time.

I didn't think that JackHammer was going to be a big deal, I figured the Killing Fields would wow me more.. but my mother jackHammer is gettin pretty stinky and shes only in veg (for 56 days).

Shout out and props to Jozikins, big time sensei and master of all things green. If anyone else has any feedback, do NOT be afraid to tell me I am doing something wrong.
 

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Jozikins

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Clones look good, I think the small one will be a lagger for a while because of it's size. But keep it around, you'll learn some things, nothing beats experience. But I do sincerely appreciate the shout out buddy. You are doing a good job man, I can't wait to see your dense sticky sweet nugs.

If you already poked holes in your dome you are fine, but you should wait until a week before punching holes in it. Keep it moist and you wont have problems, put tape over the holes if you have too. Go ahead and lightly pinch the rockwool opening shut around the stem of the clone, this will help keep light out of the cube and from killing roots as they grow out. "I poked myself in the cubes" I also do not recommend poking your genitals into your rock wool cubes. That is all.
 

TheGreenHornet

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So I finally got a transplant in. Megan, my pride and joy, the lone wolf, razzle dazzle, junk in the trunk, flower power, awesome blossom, and many other names besides.. is finally in a 10L hempy bucket.

I cleaned my marble in the tub, but the river stones would have clogged my drain, so I used a strainer and sifted them to get all the shit out.

So bottom 1/4 white marble, upper 3/4 pea-gravel river stones. Megans roots pretty much hit the marble already, but have some expanding to do for sure.

I added a small layer of river stones over the marble, then put Megan in the center, and started pourin in the gravel.. Then I flushed her with 1 gal of fresh, pH'd, cold water. I poured it around in circles to make sure it got to all the stones ..

Anyway here are some pics of my gravel cleaning facility, and Megan next to the others.
 

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TheGreenHornet

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DAY 2 Of Transplant

Megan has slightly progressed yellowing of her lowermost leaves, (those pics are last)
and I also saw something that looked like a lady bug but more gray and white and maybe slightly skinnier shaped, more oblong and less round... have no fuckin idea what it was..

Here are some picks of the clones I took 4-5 days ago. As one can see, they have not yet developed root systems .. no bueno.

Then there is Emma Watson(Looking pretty good, slight yellowing and curving), Gunther(white spots and blotchiness as well as heavy curving) and finally Morpheus(the shittiest looking genetics I've seen, but looks OK - does have yellowing leaves near bottom and curving leaves upwards..

Then Megan in the Hempy, who looks like she needs some water, or something pretty soon. trying to hold off for a diagnosis but may flush her with some reg water soon just because..
 

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TheGreenHornet

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I got some lady bugs today, I only released like 100 into my room because I didn't want the others to be sacrificed needlessly- I threw the rest of them off my patio.
Megan's leaves are lookin pretty bad. It can't be from overfeeding I don't think.. I have flushed this bucket two or three times with GOOD water. expensive water...Maybe from underfeeding? But she has burnt tips too..? and the little holes and chunks missing. ... FML.

Here are my ladybugs guarding my electricity..my nutes...and my plants.
 

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Jozikins

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Okay buddy, I think I have some solutions:

There was definitely a bug problem, good thing you released the lady bugs.

Those plants look under feed, that is why it has the limp upper growth.

You hempy plant is going through transplant shock, It has to work through 4 different inconsistent mediums. You should have either blended your mediums, or just stuck to one type of medium. Your roots are growing out of the lava stone, and into a medium that has a totally different water holding capacity, if it holds more water, your roots in the lava rock will slowly dry out and become a stem as the roots take place in the new stones below, and this is causing stress because it is taking away stored carbohydrates reserved for flowering, and putting them into rooting. The layer of riverstones was a real bad idea, I'm sorry to say. This is going to create a dry pocket, and your roots are most likely going to dampen off at this point, or spend more energy turning to stem to make it through this barrier and into the marble below.

Where do you get all these crazy grow mediums btw? I would just stick to perlite, it's something we are all extremely familiar with here on RIU. Most hempy growers use a 50/50 perlite and vermiculite combo, but vermiculite can cause mesothelioma, I think.

Hopefully she can bare though all this without turning her roots into stalk, but she will definitely experience stress from this sudden switch. It would be best to fill your net pots with your final grow medium in the future, instead of lava rock. Unless you plan on to finish with lava rock.

And don't sweat the clones, it will take anywhere between 7-14 days for them to root in most cases. When you hear about cuts rooting in 5 days, it is a combo of an incredible stroke of luck, and just perfect conditions.
 

TheGreenHornet

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NOOOooooo MegaaanN! I will get some better grow medium for you immediately I'm so sorry!!

Thanks dude, but no one sells perlite or vermiculite that I could find.. I checked home depot and a few garden stores.

Should I transplant Megan again into some soil or soil-less mix? This problem will continue since I plan on using the bubbleponics for clone veg.. Obviously if I switch to soil or soil-less mix I cant put that in there. I imagine it would be easier for the roots to develop in soil, or soil-less mix..

I need to do some more research, and thanks nukka. Oh yea vermiculite can totally cause cancer, so yeah.
 

TheGreenHornet

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Or should I say the yellow reaper? I can figure out what the fuck is going on, and all the garden stores were closed in town because it's sunday. I thought about going to Home de Pot and buying some miracle grow to put Megan in, but thought better of it. Hopefully she will pull through tonight and tomorrow morning, and I can find her some sunshine mix or some hydroton or something..

Flushed the bubble-ponics unit, they now are drinking nothing but pH'd water.

Flushed Megan again around noon with reg water pH'd - still looks like shit

They all are exhibiting the same symptoms though.. which is kind of reassuring now because now I know I'm not dealing with more than 1 or 2 things.. critter shits being taken care of (I hope) by the Ladybugs.
 

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kickflipdipstik

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Lookin aight man. If the cloning method you are using isn't cutting it, I'd check out what I'm giving a go. I abandoned the humidity dome cloning method because it just plain doesn't cut it; I made a micro stink bud cloner instead. Want some pics? Okay, here ya go... (It's really easy to make, just the rubbermaid container, 1/2in pvc, 3 1/2in. pvc Ts, 8 1/2in. pvc elbows, some sprayers, a 396gph pump, some net pots and neoprene collars and you are good to go.) Good luck buddy!

Micro cloner (8).jpgMicro cloner.jpgTent open (2).jpgLight setup (2).jpgMicro cloner (3).jpg
 

TheGreenHornet

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Very cool! I love the design, and I hear that those work wonderfully. I need something that will give me great big bushy roots! like an 80's porn star.. or somethin'.

Also I plan on flowering 9 plants.. so I need a 12-cloner, so I can take the 9 strongest.
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you even have a little gromet for the power cord.. damn fine job, damn fine.

It's those little things that make a difference. I don't have a gromet for my cord, and had to cut a little notch - which is too much space. some of my ladybugs have gone swimming, and the air heats up the res faster :( Maybe I can save up and make a pretty little unit like yours soon
 

kickflipdipstik

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either get a neoprene collar for $1 to use as a gromet or use some tape in the mean time. I've got a full sized rubbermaid roughneck one but I only made 15 holes in it rather than 23 because I only needed the 15, and I created this little 4 site cloner just so I can maintain a mom an have it fit in a tiny little tent I made. Best of luck to ya!
 

TheGreenHornet

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Ok.. so here are the pictures of Megan in the hempy, which I just converted to perlite instead of river stones and white marble.. I really hope she makes it through transplant #2, but perlite is so much lighter and forgiving than these river stones... I mean the bucket is like 2 lb now instead of 30... which makes me think maybe I was suffocating her roots.

Also; some pictures of my clones.. they look a little yellow around the edges.
 

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MEGAyielder420

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I have to agree with Jo that they look underfed. I also believe they are suffereing from lock out and deficiencies as well. Ive been meaning to ask you. Where did you come up with the idea for that medium you are using? I would of gone with some chunky perlite and coco mix this is what I use 80/20. Coco helps keep some moisture and chunky perlite allows more oxygen great for root pruning.

I think you are messing with themtoo much bro. Now you have planted them in perlite and they originally came from a BB sysytem. I stick to the same medium. If I start it hydro it stays hydro all the way thru. You may have even damaged roots in the transplant. Have you thought of this yet?
 

TheGreenHornet

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Yes, I definitely have. And I do believe they were injured. I don't like messing with them, but those river stones (i got a wally world for landscaping and flower beds) were poison. I got some nice soft perlite now, and hopefully she will do better. - I just flushed her out again, and got the pH down to where I need it, and fed her.. around 550ppm. Hopefully that will help. And trust me, I don't like using 5 gal of expensive store bought water to flush out a dying plant that I fucked up in the first place - then realizing I have a terrible grow medium, then transplanting and repeating the process. It a fucking nightmare, but its my fault, and I have really enjoyed gardening so far, even with all the shit that is coming with it. So I will continue to follow the excellent advice I have been getting here, and work my ass off to get these ladies back on course, SO HELP ME GOD.

I think yall are right about the underfeeding, and I think yall are right about the riverstones, and I think yall are right about not transplanting into different grow mediums. I am doing the best I can with what I got yo.

On the other hand, I just got some awesome seeds in from Sannies... TWO NEW STRAINS! they all feminized..

MADSHACK Fem - White Widow x Herijuana (holy shit)
Killing Field Fem
Herebei Fem-
 
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