My Amare Full-Bore Pro-4 Grow #1

Hybridway said:

I let that one go. She was nice but did not compare to GG#4 in smell. Yields were close, quality was good, but just not enough stank for the needed appeal. She was a great vertical growing plant though.
I've been strain hunting for the past year.
Got 10 running now but am aiming to get down to 6.

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Shitty!

I have 12 goji OG seeds ready to go after I put this next stuff in flower.

Budies 101 said:

Shitty!

I have 12 goji OG seeds ready to go after I put this next stuff in flower.

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Don't get me wrong. It was bomb. Just didn't bang enough for me, but I didn't really cure it either. That makes a huge diff. sometimes.
Plus, you'll prob. have one w/ more resinous genetics.

Ace of Spades x Astro Dog

These are the girls for next run. Going into 7's tonight. I'd say the 535w Hydroponics Hut seams to be keeping up w/ the 600w MH Daylight Blue. Just has limited coverage.
Gonna be a bitch to get those 2 Afghanis under the trellis. They're @ 5'2" now. Oh boy. Wish I had the room to grow them out the way they are, utilizing the whole plant. I miss that grow style. Hate cutting 3/4 of the plant away for the scrog/trellis. What a waste.

Ace Of Spades x Astro Dog clones starting early for the run after next. Trying to get a 3 month veg outta them so I can get a nice even large canopy. It's nice to see Donkey Dicks again. None of the strains I'm running now except the Sensi-Star creates the monster colas really except this one.
Well, the Northern Lights does but I gotta get it back.

If you clip the tap roots, the laterals will be forced to grow

PetFlora said:

If you clip the tap roots, the laterals will be forced to grow

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Funny you said that. I've been topping the roots @ transplant. Did last night.
I'll snip the remaining ones in the the cloner though now so I can see them grow.
It's like you read my mind.

PetFlora said:

If you clip the tap roots, the laterals will be forced to grow

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Took your advice n clipped all the ones still in the cloner n wow, overnight the laterals spread out. I'll start clipping the in the cloner as opposed to just prior to planting.

Just wanted to show you guys the effects the full spectrum monos have on the bud. Also, I'd like to retract my previous statement about my Amare's putting out nice color but not quite like my MH Daylight Blues. These are doing every bit a good of job popping the colors. One side purple that's getting whacked w/ the enhanced spectrum. Other side green. So, just like the Daylight Blue, the side laying down or facing the bulb turns purple while the other side stays bright green.
Looks pretty cool once bagged. A mix of purple n green.
It's happening to all the strains Too. Some more than others based on genetics.
The AoSxAstro-D is popping some nice colors too. Waiting to see if I get the magentas & pinks I got last time. I'll lower the lights out temps down to 64 from here on out n see if that helps.
Few days till chop.
Can't wait to see this weigh in.
Been wanting to run 1 plant per light so to replicate my hps room & get a real feel for what these lights can do.
So far, I'm very, very pleased.
I deffinetly think the enhanced white & increased photosynthetic efficiency makes up for the 100w 3590 efficiency levels.
The monos are running 50+%. They run the 65k's n 470nm blues harder then the Reds to balance it out.
My next thing is a build of my own & adding more IR. some for the growing & some for 20 min after lights out.
Just hoping it won't effect my harvest weight. Guess I'll do a side by side when it comes to the 730nm's.
Also, looking to put my build up for the side by side too, finally.
Was even thinking about about doing the long awaited hps side by side. 1000w Raptor hood vs. 2 Pro-4's.
I never see anyone complete one w/ weigh in.

What's up Brother @Hybridway?
Thought I'd share a couple pics from the garden with you.
Sweet Black Angel Coming Down!



Spiritual Punk Going up (Samsara Seeds as well)



Satori and Honey Bananas Testers



I am under Raptors with Super HPS and Hortilux Blue

OneHitDone said:

What's up Brother @Hybridway?
Thought I'd share a couple pics from the garden with you.
Sweet Black Angel Coming Down!
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Spiritual Punk Going up (Samsara Seeds as well)
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Satori and Honey Bananas Testers
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I am under Raptors with Super HPS and Hortilux Blue

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Looking good Pizon!
Oh, I checked w/ the grower I got the SBA from. He confirmed it is from Samsamara. Do you remember the last time I grew it under hps? The cola structure is totally different this time. Allot frostier & denser this time around but not as big a colas. They're plenty long & satifactory in gerth. Ha, sounds sorts gay hu.
Anyways, when do you chop yours? I'm @ day 56 today but am going through a second growth spurt. I'm thinking day 60 should be about right although it's supposed to be 52-56 I thought.
Under my hps 1 came down @ 56 n the other was like 64 cuz it just kept growing & showed allot of clear.
Got mad purple this time too.
Guess I'll take down the Flos first. One of them never kicked back into gear & will be going straight to oil. The other did though & should be an acceptable yield but probably only 1/2 what it would've been.
Well, trim weeks are here. Time to batten down the fort in get to them 12 hour work days.

I usually always take her to 60 Days, I believe it is stated as 55-60 from the breeder.
I may have had a run or two that made it in less time but generally 60 is the sweet spot and a few times they probably could have ideally gone a tad longer but like you I am on a schedule
Mine will get some nice purple/black color depending on temps too

OneHitDone said:

I usually always take her to 60 Days, I believe it is stated as 55-60 from the breeder.
I may have had a run or two that made it in less time but generally 60 is the sweet spot and a few times they probably could have ideally gone a tad longer but like you I am on a schedule
Mine will get some nice purple/black color depending on temps too

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Yeah, 60 days sounds about right for me too based on where the plant is today.
Just drives me nuts cuz my ole lady is my main trimmer n she is always pushing me to take down ASAP. She's always complaining about me & my second growth spurt. Haha!
I use AN's Overdrive @ 2/3's strength. It does a # on the fan leaves though, which is fine by me. Causes them to feed the buds what's left in them in double time. Plus it's N basically. Just a different form that the plant uses to pack on that extra weight @ the end.
Then I get an accasional troll from here that will tell me I'm a terrible grower cuz my fan leaves are fried towards the end like that dude who was saying my LEDs suck cuz I've got some dead leaves. WTF w/ these guys.
They act like they know everything but are not yielding shit n we all have different grow styles, nutes, mediums, ect...
This next run though, I am aiming for some pretty plants. Well, as pretty as they can be in a trellis anyways.
Thinking about putting lenses on for my 3 Flos coming up cuz they're short lil bushes. Just contemplating whether or not to put them in the scrog cuz then the net will be real low in order to get the spread off the lenses & I like to be able to fit under it for many reasons. Canopy is so much brighter w/ the lenses though.

to be fair to the guy Hybrid..i would try to not have fried leaves..there appears to be a learning curve for leds
vs nutirent usage..and maybe led distance ..and then there are the added mono's..

noooo..more to think about

i saw my leaves getting the uglies..i raised the lights..it went away..

i am not expert enough to know whats up yet..

since i am still flowering using hps and just getting into the flowering with leds thing..

i think they may need less light than we think

some people have a full grow with them and no "uglies"..

it may be how the lights are used..[too close?]

on another note..the suncloak grow seems to not be as good as the "h'its amare" grow..this time any way ..or am i wrong?

at any rate you are doing good tests here..

i am excited to see your next updates..

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

to be fair to the guy Hybrid..i would try to not have fried leaves..there appears to be a learning curve for leds
vs nutirent usage..and maybe led distance ..and then there are the added mono's..

noooo..more to think about

i saw my leaves getting the uglies..i raised the lights..it went away..

i am not expert enough to know whats up yet..

since i am still flowering using hps and just getting into the flowering with leds thing..

i think they may need less light than we think

some people have a full grow with them and no "uglies"..

it may be how the lights are used..[too close?]

on another note..the suncloak grow seems to not be as good as the "h'its amare" grow..this time any way ..or am i wrong?

at any rate you are doing good tests here..

i am excited to see your next updates..

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For sure. This grow wasn't perfect. The lights were way to close. Did my best to keep the colas from being directly under the Cob arrays. Didn't really notice much problem from the lights being tat close though. Except on the Kings which I need to get a better grip on. She deffinetly requires something different then the others. She needs more N or something cuz she's always got to bright of green leaves & once whacked w/,to much light, they fade off to early.
As for fried fan leaves on the others, I'd say it's the Overdrive.
There was other minor leaf problem too due to the double spraying to rid the Thripes.
We'll see how next run goes. Going to try to keep them nice n pertty.
The SC plants are doing real well w/ less leaf damage. Maybe cuz of allot less intensity. 2 of them got completely fried though & the Kings had that overwatered leaf look. The rest are decent. Should be a nice Haul off both sides.
I'd like to try regular tap water. Never even gave it a shot @ this new place. Just know I don't like drinking it.
How's your ladies doing? Pretty full tent last time I saw.

Depending on where you live waste water gets recycled, meaning although 'sanitized' it could contain a mega cocktail of medications that were flushed. Safest, smartest thing is to start with purest water possible.

Hybridway said:

For sure. This grow wasn't perfect. The lights were way to close. Did my best to keep the colas from being directly under the Cob arrays. Didn't really notice much problem from the lights being tat close though. Except on the Kings which I need to get a better grip on. She deffinetly requires something different then the others. She needs more N or something cuz she's always got to bright of green leaves & once whacked w/,to much light, they fade off to early.
As for fried fan leaves on the others, I'd say it's the Overdrive.
There was other minor leaf problem too due to the double spraying to rid the Thripes.
We'll see how next run goes. Going to try to keep them nice n pertty.
The SC plants are doing real well w/ less leaf damage. Maybe cuz of allot less intensity. 2 of them got completely fried though & the Kings had that overwatered leaf look. The rest are decent. Should be a nice Haul off both sides.
I'd like to try regular tap water. Never even gave it a shot @ this new place. Just know I don't like drinking it.
How's your ladies doing? Pretty full tent last time I saw.

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A little FYI, Samsara Sweet Black Angel is one that is finicky as fuck about feedings.
I have struggled with her from day 1 with what most everyone is saying is a Cal issue but definitely is not. Plants look perfect till about week 4 of flower and the mega rust spots take over.
I have tried all kinds of nutrients with all sorts of varying levels of Ca & Mg and the only line I have been able to take her over the finish line with pristine leaves is Ionic.
I am not sure what is different with that line cause it is actually a bit lacking in Ca / Mg but the plants just seem to love it like an IV infusion.
Other strains next to SBA will look perfect on almost all nutrients I have tried and she will be all fucked off. It is Super Silver Haze x Black Domina so maybe the Haze side is the picky feeder?

Hybid quote:"How's your ladies doing? Pretty full tent last time "

>i culled at least half of them.. threw some under the hps to flower..

have a dozen still under leds .tall and doing well..but shoud be inflower now..but getting a led flower room set up..dang fishing gets in the way

i seemed to get the uglies under the ones with reflectors at one point..backed off them they were fine..i like no reflectors at this point

too close..and overdrive huh?
oh that learning curve..

OneHitDone said:

A little FYI, Samsara Sweet Black Angel is one that is finicky as fuck about feedings.
I have struggled with her from day 1 with what most everyone is saying is a Cal issue but definitely is not. Plants look perfect till about week 4 of flower and the mega rust spots take over.
I have tried all kinds of nutrients with all sorts of varying levels of Ca & Mg and the only line I have been able to take her over the finish line with pristine leaves is Ionic.
I am not sure what is different with that line cause it is actually a bit lacking in Ca / Mg but the plants just seem to love it like an IV infusion.
Other strains next to SBA will look perfect on almost all nutrients I have tried and she will be all fucked off. It is Super Silver Haze x Black Domina so maybe the Haze side is the picky feeder?

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I'm gonna find out what's up with her soon........thanks for the heads up

My SBA doesn't seam to finicky. It's actually one of my more resilient strains from what I've seen. First run w/ her under hps the room got PM but not her. I've whacked my girls w/ some pretty heavy nutes n she's fine. Kind've a HOG actually. I guess we all get different genetics to some degree even if from the same comp.
There's 10 different strains running in my room right now. Each one is pretty different from the next & so is their reaction to their feeds, temp, & light. For instance, I found out today that the Flo likes allotta light, but does not like to be much higher then 75•. This run got up to 87• a few times before i got a handle on it & stayed around 85• w/ Co2. Some strains, the Overdrive didn't really suck the full life outta the fan leaves, but it did to the Ace of Spades.
One thing I noticed is that some that reacted one way under heavy light (Amare's) didn't necessarily do the same in the Cloak (light even). It's not very scientific cuz the Cloak plants had an extra week to shake off the double spray whilest the Amare plants went into flower the very next day. That was a mistake on my part. Should've gave them a week. On a schedule though. I don't have the luxury off letting them grow into the screen even. 2-3 days tops, just to adjust.
So you guys know, I aim to use up my fan leaves the last 2 weeks. So when I take down, they are all completely used up. Speant w/ nothing left to offer. As long as I don't fray the sugar leaves or bud leaves, I'm good.
So what some consider nute burn, is exactly what I want sometimes. Doesn't happen till the last 2 weeks. There's barely any to none most times prior to that. I'd consider changing if I want so happy w/ the quality & weight doing it this way. Every time I consider switching my Nute compilation, my grower friends say why switch what works. Then I just keep running it.
I'm happy w/ this run aside from my 2 Flo plants. At least one came back.
This is my first run going 1 plant per light using my Amare's & was the first true test for me.
Plants went in a bit to big & lanky. So couldn't really train it. Just to tall. Qualities there 101%. Color & Density too. Especially now. Allot of them fell over & are laying on their side. Side facing up is straight purple. Other side, bright green on the SFV & SBA. & they hit the deck about a week ago. AoS has nice colors popping. The Kings Purples up too but hadn't so much cuz the monos have been off for awhile now. Since week 4 I think. Did start running the UV bulb a few days ago though. I just keep it on the whole 12 hrs.
Adding Blue like a MH or 64k n maybe Blue led, does pop them colors. Used to mix up my hps w/ mh the last few weeks to get crazy color.
I bet if guys added their veg lights to the end of their flower cycle (w/ flower light) they'd get new colors. Maybe a slight increase in thc too.
Hope all's well.
I'll try to get some picks up before chop.
Keep in mind, I'm in a 4 1/2 ' deep double trellis so I don't have the luxury to access & pick dead leaves for pictures. Otherwise, they'd be every bit as pretty as the next guys.