My Amare Full-Bore Pro-4 Grow #1

PetFlora

PetFlora

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FYI, last grow I read a grow thread that is about replacing air stones with flooming. Now, I can't have open rezes due to pesky mosquitoes that get into my house and make a beeline for water to lay eggs.

It's really simple: Size your lp pump to your rez volume. Since mine are < 3 gal I have to use a deep cycle timer, otherwise the water temp rises > 90*s. It took me a couple days to discover that, which caused major leaf damage last grow. Later I saw YT videos about diy venturi, which adds a small diameter tube where the top of the tube is above the water line. It super oxygenates the water by bringing additional air into the water as it flows out of the pump. I added the venturi to this grow and it works great. The picture shows a T connector, but all that is needed is an elbow. The smaller tube is cut at a ~ 45* angle and pushed to the bottom of the larger tube. The angle cut is turned away from the flow, so water can channel around it and create the bubbles. Lots of YT videos

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Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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Hybridway said:
Sweet Black Angel. I need to get this strain back, that's for sure. Getting her first flush tonight. View attachment 3937713View attachment 3937714
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Evil, yours look real nice in veg. You're gonna love flowering this lady. Especially de-flowering her. Ha!
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Thanks bro I am very excited. How much did it stretch on you? Mine are 22" from the dirt.........I am debating how much longer to veg and whether to run (2) in each 3x3 or all 4 in one space............any advice from you having grown it now would be much appreciated.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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OneHitDone said:
Hum, that is not Samsara Sweet Black Angel.
No lemon in mine - pure fuel, musky, sweet stinch. Some have said "peppery"
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@Hybridway

I have not grown this SBA before but smoked plenty of it. There was no smells in this cut like what you decribe I have to backup @OneHitDone here. Straight pepper fuel, sweet, earthy smells and taste.

I will be taking cuts soon let me know.
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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OneHitDone said:
Hum, that is not Samsara Sweet Black Angel.
No lemon in mine - pure fuel, musky, sweet stinch. Some have said "peppery"
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I can see that as being a better description. I'm no good at pinpointing that stuff. It is very fuelly n peppery sounds about right too. Just thought of lemon pine at first.
I'll check w/ the guy I got it from to see if it's a Samsara n lyk.
Does it look similiar this time?
Last run under hps mine looked n smelled different.
Evil-Mobo said:
Thanks bro I am very excited. How much did it stretch on you? Mine are 22" from the dirt.........I am debating how much longer to veg and whether to run (2) in each 3x3 or all 4 in one space............any advice from you having grown it now would be much appreciated.
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Mine grew allot more after hitting the switch. I'd say give them some room. Maybe 2 in a 3'x3'. If you topped one w/ a 40 day veg, I could see it taking the whole 3'x3' itself honestly.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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Hybridway said:
I can see that as being a better description. I'm no good at pinpointing that stuff. It is very fuelly n peppery sounds about right too. Just thought of lemon pine at first.
I'll check w/ the guy I got it from to see if it's a Samsara n lyk.
Does it look similiar this time?
Last run under hps mine looked n smelled different.

Mine grew allot more after hitting the switch. I'd say give them some room. Maybe 2 in a 3'x3'. If you topped one w/ a 40 day veg, I could see it taking the whole 3'x3' itself honestly.
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The goal is an elbow from the four of them. Dry in jars. That's where I need to be, so debating all four under the COB's and then a second run with four under the QB or split them two and two under the QB and the COB's at the same time...........

Oh and I have one that is topped out of the four and she's a wide biach!
 
Hybridway

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Evil-Mobo said:
The goal is an elbow from the four of them. Dry in jars. That's where I need to be, so debating all four under the COB's and then a second run with four under the QB or split them two and two under the QB and the COB's at the same time...........

Oh and I have one that is topped out of the four and she's a wide biach!
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How old are they now & how long till flower?
They look meaty, I'd say 2 for the QB's n 2 for the Cobs w/ an expectancy of 2 elbows. I think if you give the other 3 a quick topping, you'd get a 1/2 each if you put 400w over 2 on each side. What's your QB running? 350 might get you close to.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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Hybridway said:
How old are they now & how long till flower?
They look meaty, I'd say 2 for the QB's n 2 for the Cobs w/ an expectancy of 2 elbows. I think if you give the other 3 a quick topping, you'd get a 1/2 each if you put 400w over 2 on each side. What's your QB running? 350 might get you close to.
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I had my QB at 332 in full blast and I'm not sure if she hurt me bro, the auto finished in 53 days from seed with purps on top and is killer smoke but only 23 grams or so dry in the jar. The record for her is 1.75 on AFN I'm trying to smash it with the second one that will be coming down soon.

Here's the buds of the first one I just smoked it and WOW FIRE first all LED buds
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This is the second girl
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So I turned the QB down to 250 and the chemdogging auto under it is BLOWING up golf balls everywhere:
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The four cobs from smo are running 244 at the wall in the other 3x3. I'm testing new theory here not just comparing lights. I really think we give the plants more light and nutes than they need. I want to prove you can grow organic with limited supplies and low power efficiently and push the yields at the same time with the quality. Of course genetics plays a role, but we are not all green house people you know. There's A LOT of people like me that are just sick and need meds. I get asked all the time to help people witrh their parents believe it or not. You think somebody's momma gives three shits about PPFD etc etc. LOL

Anyway I'm stoned off this blunt and ranting Sorry for clogging your thread up :bigjoint:

As for age of the plants I have had them since 3/29 as clones, how long to flower is however long I feel like really I can wait there is no rush, but right now I "need" at least a month I think for the rest of the auto's to finish.

I was not expecting growth like this from 110 watts in a closet bro
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Hybridway

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SwitchHitter said:
LOL. anyone can grow a plant hehe but not everyone can keep those toxicities in check. good effort though, you know
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Most leaf damage is from spraying 2 different kinds of Thripe killer right before flower & some up front has wind burn. Aside from that, buds are dense, frosty, & smell to high Heaven, not to mention there's plenty of weight there. Lost a few plants from it actually & feel pretty lucky these did this well. Good thing we don't smoke leaves hu? Not to mention, I'm not running a fashion show here. Even if I was loaded w/ toxicities, how again does that cooralate to led performance?
Pretty funny though how you were so quick to dog a guy & then take it a step further by saying led isn't working out for me. Lol!
I was an hps grower & converted to led. Sooooo, it's not like I went into this blind. I know the difference & after about 3 trial runs doing direct comparisons, as I ran both an led & hps room at the same time w/ allot of the same strains. I had enough solid evidence & improved crops to feel good about my decision.
Have you grown w/ led or hps?
I'll tell you what, people love my tree.
 
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Moflow

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Hybridway said:
Most leaf damage is from spraying 2 different kinds of Thripe killer right before flower & some up front has wind burn. Aside from that, buds are dense, frosty, & smell to high Heaven, not to mention there's plenty of weight there. Lost a few plants from it actually & feel pretty lucky these did this well. Good thing we don't smoke leaves hu? Not to mention, I'm not running a fashion show here. Even if I was loaded w/ toxicities, how again does that cooralate to led performance?
Pretty funny though how you were so quick to dog a guy & then take it a step further by saying led isn't working out for me. Lol!
I was an hps grower & converted to led. Sooooo, it's not like I went into this blind. I know the difference & after about 3 trial runs doing direct comparisons, as I ran both an led & hps room at the same time w/ allot of the same strains. I had enough solid evidence & improved crops to feel good about my decision.
Have you grown w/ led or hps?
I'll tell you what, people love my tree.
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Good on ya @Hybridway
You gotta show warts n all and you'd the balls to do it.
We're all still learning.
Your grow shows are smashing!
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SwitchHitter

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Hybridway said:
Most leaf damage is from spraying 2 different kinds of Thripe killer right before flower & some up front has wind burn. Aside from that, buds are dense, frosty, & smell to high Heaven, not to mention there's plenty of weight there. Lost a few plants from it actually & feel pretty lucky these did this well. Good thing we don't smoke leaves hu? Not to mention, I'm not running a fashion show here. Even if I was loaded w/ toxicities, how again does that cooralate to led performance?
Pretty funny though how you were so quick to dog a guy & then take it a step further by saying led isn't working out for me. Lol!
I was an hps grower & converted to led. Sooooo, it's not like I went into this blind. I know the difference & after about 3 trial runs doing direct comparisons, as I ran both an led & hps room at the same time w/ allot of the same strains. I had enough solid evidence & improved crops to feel good about my decision.
Have you grown w/ led or hps?
I'll tell you what, people love my tree.
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People love getting high on Reggie from Mexico too, bud. All I was saying is that your plants look super stressed and that ain't their fault. Is yours. Congrats on wasting a ton of money on leds when your HPS should have been doing well enough you never should of wanted to switch. Such is the case with experimental growers..can't let good enough be. I have been doing a ton of research(reading/first hand) about LEDs. tell me, what is your room temperature? LED doesn't push anywhere near the same amount if any IR that a typical HPS would. Therefore you'll end up not transpiring enough water to cool leaves.. that by itself is enough to throw many variables off. I will leave you be, but I wouldn't try to be such a rude boy if you actually knew what you were doing... like I said, anyone can trial error, but why, when the info you desire is on the net. If you had your girls happy, those (we don't smoke leaves)LMAO!!!!) leaves sticking out of your "smelly" buds wouldn't be so crisp and sad. You do know that buds collect the exact same shit the leaves do. Go get your "trees" tested and I bet nobody will want to smoke it compared to what resides full time in my pocket. Why show boat when You can't even help others out. Like trying to tell me LEDs work, only because the plant can live under it. I see nothing thriving.... not even close to a HPS or even flowering under MH. Just saying. Don't get all B hurt and make some changes. Clearly you're on the right path. But you should get your variables locked down before you try and attribute any growth on one particular thing. But I am still curious what your CANOPY(right at the top) temperature is.
 
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