My attempt on building a semi-stealth cabinet (pix inside)

DocBrown

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Yeah man I know what you mean. I try to have the attitude of just letting the plant do it's thing and not stress over it but when you get in to trying to rectify issues, it seems like it ends up worse. 3 weeks till harvest, we'll see how it goes.
 

DubsFan

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Here are some better pictures so you all can see the "droopiness" I was talking about. I'm assuming it was due to me not watering it on time. How soon does it recuperate from that? From the top looking down it looks just fine, it's just all the new vegetation under the canopy that looks sad. Some fan leaves have a slight droop to the as well.
















Maybe it's hanging, not drooping. It's trying to find the light through your canopy up top. I know this post is months old but I'm just sayin'.
 

DubsFan

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Ok, now I'm done with the thread. I think you've done well man. In flower leaves do wierd things like die off. Leaves are an indicator of what your plant is doing but late into flower you look at your leaves and your buds. On 8/10 you said you were weeks from harvesting. I don't know man...she had a long way to go. Certainly more than three weeks. No posts in a few weeks so my guess is you're smoking that herb.

Overall a good grow. On 8/10 it looked to me like you had at a minimum of 30 to 45 days to go.

Regarding soil and Ph. Fuck it. If you can drink the water you can grow a plant in it. Dudes have been growing 1lb plus plants on hose tap water for decades. Any new pics or are you high as a kite right now :)
 

born2killspam

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Plants in the ground can handle off pH watering alot better than potted plants because the ground is so vast, and a proper soil mix should adjust that pH fine unless the water is horrid.. Not the same with pots at all, pH is 'the most' important variable to control!!
 

DubsFan

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Plants in the ground can handle off pH watering alot better than potted plants because the ground is so vast, and a proper soil mix should adjust that pH fine unless the water is horrid.. Not the same with pots at all, pH is 'the most' important variable to control!!

The most important variable? Really? What is it more important than? N? P? or K? All three? Please explain. Ph is more important that oxygen?

Horrid drinking water really doesn't exist in the US. Ph in the US is usually between...well...I don't know. Nobody I know from San Diego to Sonoma even bothers with PH.

My well water is so hard my sprinklers clog. Yet I have plants in pots that produce multiple Oz per. So does everyone else really...ph just isn't in the discussion here in Ca. If it is it's with rockwool or dudes growing their herb in balls.
 

born2killspam

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pH determines uptake of NPK and all micros moreso than ppm levels of the ions themselves..
Often the ground tends to be more acidic than ideal.. Hard water would help with that, othertimes the ground just buffers so well that it doesn't matter.. Sometimes things just work out well enough, but not always.. I'm glad its that easy for you, but I don't want ppl having probs to think that pH isn't a critical factor to consider..
 

DubsFan

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First it's the most important now it's critical. That's a big downgrade.

For the sake of shits and giggles we have Dave Lettermans top 10:

Light
Air
Water
N
P
K
Temp
Ph
strain
grower experience

oh shit... Dave's top 11... Humidity

Place these in order from 1-11, 1 being most important and 11 being least that determine quality and yield in a soil grow.

I'm sure there's like 15 things but it's late and I'm drunk.
 

born2killspam

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I get it, you grow in the ground, and you get away with alot of BS and laziness.. Not the case in pots though, I have alot of experience, and fucking post-grad chemistry under my belt to back it up (granted a thorough understanding of 1st year chem is sufficient) theoretically to boot.. Aside from your obvious three, uptakable N & P & K, and micros, and the proton gradient that facilitates photosynthesis and transport are literally determined by pH (and temperature to a lesser extent).. Anyways, I'm glad your dirt fixes your water, but regardless, fuck you..
 

DubsFan

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I get it, you grow in the ground, and you get away with alot of BS and laziness.. Not the case in pots though, I have alot of experience, and fucking post-grad chemistry under my belt to back it up (granted a thorough understanding of 1st year chem is sufficient) theoretically to boot.. Aside from your obvious three, uptakable N & P & K, and micros, and the proton gradient that facilitates photosynthesis and transport are literally determined by pH (and temperature to a lesser extent).. Anyways, I'm glad your dirt fixes your water, but regardless, fuck you..
I can't believe you answered my question. :sleep: You can't help yourself. :wall: It almost annoys me that you answered it. But I enjoy it all the while. I'm so conflicted. :bigjoint:

Check out my photo album and threads. Nothing in ground dude, and yes I use Miragle Grow soil to boot!!! It's all in pots cause too many little guys down there chomping on roots. All pots bro (see post 91, your chemistry or whatever degree missed that). Cause I'm dumb, no college education you know. I really don't know shit. My bush with 35 tops...I was really hoping it was something more than just a fancy orange tree. Turns out it is.

I could tell you're a college grad. Check out my latest rep. I found another one of you guys that just totally over analyized everything about his grow. The difference is he got the point. So much so he repped me.

I don't have a problem with college grads. Just ones like you. I'm still amazed you answered my question. This is fantastic. I'm like 2 for 2 in a week.

Oh, I don't use mollasses or however you spell it. Just one more thing I have to worry about.

It has been a pleasure doing business with you. I'm moving onto my next thread to find another one of you. :lol:
 

DocBrown

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Well fellas, I will be chopping her down today. It was a great first time experience for me. I learned a lot and hope to not make the same mistakes on my next grow.
 
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