My highest reccomendation for this inexpensive unit,ZERO SMELL & cheap.

so panhead if a timer isnt sufficent what is? my exhaust is run up to an attic, and soon the smell up there is going to be a problem so if I put one up there what else would I need besides a timer on it some type of regulator? Ozone can be deadly...could it possibly kill the grower himself?

assrabbi said:

so panhead if a timer isnt sufficent what is? my exhaust is run up to an attic, and soon the smell up there is going to be a problem so if I put one up there what else would I need besides a timer on it some type of regulator? Ozone can be deadly...could it possibly kill the grower himself?

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What i meant by a timer not being able to control the generator output was not that it does not work,but that putting it on a timer "within the grow area" wont be able to stop plant damage, or to regelate the ozone to a point where it does not change the air quality in the room ,plants that are in an ozone rich grow room will end up looking like they have a severe nute burn from too much ozone,humans will get a sore throat from too much ozone.

In a situation where your dumping dirty air to an unused portion of the home like your attic regulation is not needed,you could let it run 24/7 with no negative effects,ozone breaks down very quickly & turns back into oxygen,in an insulated attic it would be next to impossible for ozone levels to reach a level that is bad for humans in the rest of the home,especially if the attic is vented through the roof with roof vents,ridge vent or sofit vents,these generators output levels are low enough where as long as they are used in an unused area they will not create a hazzard to plants,animals or people.

You could & should leave a generator running full time in your attic with no ill effects to you or your family,just install the generator near the exhaust outlet in the attic,turn it on & forget about it.

As for ozone poisioning, the levels needed to reach toxicity are extreme & cant be reached by these generators unless its used in a very small sealed room along with long term exposure to extreme levels.

Your safe with this generator running full time in your attic.

panhead said:

What i meant by a timer not being able to control the generator output was not that it does not work,but that putting it on a timer "within the grow area" wont be able to stop plant damage, or to regelate the ozone to a point where it does not change the air quality in the room ,plants that are in an ozone rich grow room will end up looking like they have a severe nute burn from too much ozone,humans will get a sore throat from too much ozone.

In a situation where your dumping dirty air to an unused portion of the home like your attic regulation is not needed,you could let it run 24/7 with no negative effects,ozone breaks down very quickly & turns back into oxygen,in an insulated attic it would be next to impossible for ozone levels to reach a level that is bad for humans in the rest of the home,especially if the attic is vented through the roof with roof vents,ridge vent or sofit vents,these generators output levels are low enough where as long as they are used in an unused area they will not create a hazzard to plants,animals or people.

You could & should leave a generator running full time in your attic with no ill effects to you or your family,just install the generator near the exhaust outlet in the attic,turn it on & forget about it.

As for ozone poisioning, the levels needed to reach toxicity are extreme & cant be reached by these generators unless its used in a very small sealed room along with long term exposure to extreme levels.

Your safe with this generator running full time in your attic.

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Every time I see this thread I wanna rep+ you again Panhead...lol. You are just full of helpful and all around knowledge my man

Thanks for the info. Panhead, I'll have to look for one of those next time I'm at my local hydro store. Price seems very reasonable.

i do spa service and also spa/hot tub moving and removal (haul to dumps) i come across alot of old ozones they have 2 types there are ones with a light bulb and some have chips. iam going to check into this a little more.

worble7 said:

i do spa service and also spa/hot tub moving and removal (haul to dumps) i come across alot of old ozones they have 2 types there are ones with a light bulb and some have chips. iam going to check into this a little more.

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There are 4 types of ozone generators that i know of.

1 Corona discharge models run off of static electricity,they have ozone plates that run off of sparks,every spark releases ozone,kinda the same principal as running a mig welder,they have the highest rated output but they are seriously effected by humidity & require more frequent cleaning.

2 Ultraviolet or UV type,these run off of ultravoiolet light bulbs & generaly produce lower rated levels of ozone,the thing is that UV ozone production is not effected by humidity levels where the Corona Discharge units output is highly effected by humidity levels & ozone production slows as humidity rises,my understanding is that all Corona Discharge units are rated for output using a 10% humidity level which is not realistic for most people,something to keep in mind when comparing MGH ratings.

I own both of these types generators,i have 1 industrial model UV generator rated at 9,000 MGH (i'd have to look that rating up to be sure) & 1 industrial model Corona Discharge generator rated at 16,000 MGH,both these models are extremely excessive,i fucked up buying them as they produce way too much ozone & are designed for fire restoration or mold removal,i spent about $500 each on these units,they work great but running them is like being in a welding shop all day long due to the high ozone,its a level of ozone where the smell is highly noticable if you know what it is or are familiar with wire welding.

I also own 2 of the models pictured in this thread,they are rated at 500 MGH which when looking at the pro models seems like a very low output but its not,500 MGH is more than enough to take care of the average grow op & most of the larger grows also,when i say large im talking about 40 to 60 females in heavy bud,these models blow the pro models away at $140 each.

The other model generators i know of are for water treatment applications,the 3rd model runs off ambient room air & the 4th model runs off of compressed air that must be dried,as far as i know these models cant be used in treating air due to their design but i could be 100% wrong,i did very little research on these types generators,however along with my limited research i did talk to a cat on ebay who is in your line of work,he sells hot tub parts but he was a blabber mouth & talked all kinds of scientific sounding mumbo jumbo that pretty much made no sense,i think he was blowin smoke up my ass trying to sell me a super expensive model,the understanding i got from what little sense he made was that its the wrong application for those models.

BongJuice said:

Thanks for the info. Panhead, I'll have to look for one of those next time I'm at my local hydro store. Price seems very reasonable.

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Oh man,at $140 each they are the best investment on odor control ive made so far,my in room carbon filter/fan combo i bought cost that much & is noisy as hell & only has one application/use,the lil ozone generators can be used for in home odor removal when the home is unoccupied or in the basement full time to kill any damp odors.

My wife left a gallon of milk in her personal car for 2 weeks,forgot about the milk & started driving her suv, all the while the milk was spoiling in the sun on the back seat,that fuker exploded leaving rank ass milk all over,i steam cleaned everything but it still reeked bad,i put one of the lil generators in there for 24 hours & the smell is gone.

Ozone is some prety amazing stuff.

oh yeah I'll for sure be investing the 140 rather than getting an outfit to hook up a carbon filter. thanks for sharin the wealth panhead, another one for you...I might of missed this somewhere else in the post; whats the life on these things?, I'm presuming the cheap one is the uv one that you had the pic of opened up? Do you ever need to replace anything or is it just like whenever a part breaks...more people should know about these man, I've seen a lot of exhaust dumps into spaces that could have benefitted from one of these, Theres no use in wasting space inside my op when I can just take care of the problem which is the dumped air. Filtering the air in the room over and over again seems so inefficient when (if the circumstances are right) you can have an ozone generator up there takin care of the stink as its dumped.

The UV models will need the Ultraviolet bulb replaced when it goes bad,ive found that replacement bulbs cost $40 direct from the people who sell the generators,im still searching for the manufacturer of the bulbs in hopes of finding a better price,if i find the manufacturer i will post the info.

The retailers of these machines say that the only maintanince needed is a wipe down of the bulb & reflector area once every 6 months.

panhead,
good info and it sounds like your right thanks for the info.

panhead said:

Oh man,at $140 each they are the best investment on odor control ive made so far,my in room carbon filter/fan combo i bought cost that much & is noisy as hell & only has one application/use,the lil ozone generators can be used for in home odor removal when the home is unoccupied or in the basement full time to kill any damp odors.

My wife left a gallon of milk in her personal car for 2 weeks,forgot about the milk & started driving her suv, all the while the milk was spoiling in the sun on the back seat,that fuker exploded leaving rank ass milk all over,i steam cleaned everything but it still reeked bad,i put one of the lil generators in there for 24 hours & the smell is gone.

Ozone is some prety amazing stuff.

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Are you not still using a fan to exhaust to the empty space though? So is the noise reduction the by product of being able to use a smaller CFM fan because your not having to pull through a filter?

Im going into the attic, and was going to invest in a Can Fan 6" High Output and Can Filter 75 all hooked up the a temp/humidity/co2 controller.

Maybe this would allow me to use a smaller fan dumping straight to attic and then just Ozone it up there...possibly being less noisy(and saving more space) as a result??

Panhead, Ive got a grow box in a storage closet( about 7ft by 11ft) if i put this ozone generator in my closet will it affect my plants, also will it let out poiusonous gases into that closet? Please explain this to me, i am in desperate need of a great odor control soultion. Thanks

Nice granet counter top

massmurda420 said:

Nice granet counter top

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is it? I thought it was a concrete floor. lol. I got a nice dark fake granet counter top from lowes for my kitchen.

intressting! My question is can it be up and running 24h if its not in contact with the growroom? thinking to put one of these in my vent channel out from the house is that to rekomend or is that just stupid? =)

best regards
P

Gibbster said:

intressting! My question is can it be up and running 24h if its not in contact with the growroom? thinking to put one of these in my vent channel out from the house is that to rekomend or is that just stupid? =)

best regards
P

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Yes they can run 24/7 with no ill effects,according to manufacturer instructions its better to leave them on 24/7 as cycling them on & off shortens bulb life.

lorenzo08 said:

is it? I thought it was a concrete floor. lol. I got a nice dark fake granet counter top from lowes for my kitchen.

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Its not granite infact its not a counter top or a floor,its a cement pad at the top of a loading dock where delievery trucks unload .

jahman2222 said:

Panhead, Ive got a grow box in a storage closet( about 7ft by 11ft) if i put this ozone generator in my closet will it affect my plants, also will it let out poiusonous gases into that closet? Please explain this to me, i am in desperate need of a great odor control soultion. Thanks

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1st off you should google "ozone generators" & just "ozone" as it is a carcinogen if allowed to gather in quantity,it can hurt you,animals & plant life,if just thrown in a room & let go they will roast your plants leaving them severely burned & stunted.

If your going to place one directly in the room you need an understanding of how ozone destroys odors & what it leaves behind,they can be put directly in the room with the plants but they are not a plug & use device,you'll need to use it in conjunction with a timer .

ok, had a little look around and just thought i'd ask you if you think this would work or if it's dangerous.

2mx2mx2m closet, 2m exhaust duct with a 90 degree bend using a 208L/s can fan.
if i placed the ozone generator about halfwy in the exhaust duct that leads to my bathroom which is wll ventillated, would this wor and be safe?
i only plan on using it during flowering,in veg i'll use a home made carbon filter. also can't move my box and would place the ozone straight in the bathroom but all that steam etc cant be good for it.
cheers

Charred said:

ok, had a little look around and just thought i'd ask you if you think this would work or if it's dangerous.

2mx2mx2m closet, 2m exhaust duct with a 90 degree bend using a 208L/s can fan.
if i placed the ozone generator about halfwy in the exhaust duct that leads to my bathroom which is wll ventillated, would this wor and be safe?
i only plan on using it during flowering,in veg i'll use a home made carbon filter. also can't move my box and would place the ozone straight in the bathroom but all that steam etc cant be good for it.
cheers

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The question you pose is hard to answer,i can say that what you propose on doing with an inline ozone generator will be safe for the plants but i cant speak as to the exhaust being safe for humans as i do not know the ventilation particulars with the bathroom you plan on venting ozonated exhaust into.