Need Help With Hydro Grow

rbk3ai

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Hello everyone im new to this hydro grow as well as growing in general im growing in a room thats about 2'wide and 5' long i got tons of equipment from my bro he gave me 4 23w floros and a 400w conversion MH bulb for hps and i got 1 400w hps bulb tons of ventalation equipment and GH nutes im starting out the seedlings super shiva in rapid rooters ive done this with some fem white widow seeds but fucked all of the two my bro gave me so i have to mess with these super shiva seeds now and i want to know all the information possible on how to keep these ones alive because all the others ones died so all help from exper growers really appericiated.
 

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kindprincess

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ok, need some more info....

what system will you be using? nft? dwc? drip? makes a difference.

i hate rapid rooters; rockwool is much much better, imo

your lights and nutes are great, don't change anything.

as far as germination; this is based on startiing directly in the medium, or in rw....

the paper towel method......

take a plate, and place one paper towel on it. moisten the towel, place seeds no closer than one inch appart, and cover with another towel. moisten again, cover with saran wrap (to hold in all moisture) and place somewhere warm, ie, the top of the fridge, a dvd player, etc.

in a day to a week, the seeds will pop open. best to plant the seeds before the grow tips, as to not injure and kill the tap root (which results in a dead beanling) take tweazers, and place the seed in rw or the hydro medium. in a day or so, the beanling will pop it's helmeted head above the rw or medium, and you're all set.

hope that helps....
 

rbk3ai

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I will be using the waterfarm buckets to grow in which is a recir system with a drip ring... also i already started the germ process there where in paper towels the method which you explained they popped there tap roots and now there sitting in the rapid rooters there starting to expose themselves ive been able to get all the way up till they put out there first set of true leaves then they just shit on me what am i doing wrong... all help is needed if it helps im starting in a pot with perlite and then putting it into my waterfarm buckets or should i just put them straight in the buckets?
 

kindprincess

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less heat, more light, make sure the tap root is moist AT ALL TIMES. if the taproot dries, the beanling will die.

as for medium, perlite is not ideal for waterfarms. and, you farms will do much better if you drill more holes at the bottom of the pot container.

good mediums for waterfarms:
gravel (sterile and clean)
hydroton
hyponex
marbles

try to use one of these instead of perlite.
 

rbk3ai

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im not using the perlite in the waterfarm container im using it in my little planter pot someone told me to make sure to get strong roots by putting it in a planter till some roots show then put it into the waterfarm can anyone confirm this experince growers really needed here because theres some much info out there its hard to weed through it all..
 

kindprincess

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rockwool would be best, as you can but the cube in the waterfarm, and cover it with medium; the roots will grow through the rw, and into the medium, and eventualy into the res.
 

rbk3ai

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i tried rockwool was unsuccessful with it i dont know why but my roots never where strong enough to punch through... also my growth was so slow i dont know why it was but when i germed the same seeds and put them in rapid rooters boom the growth was so much more accelerted i dont know maybe its just the white widow skunk getting to my head
 

rbk3ai

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does anyone have any helpful tips that i could use? or need to look out for so im not on here like crazy when an issue does come around...
 

kindprincess

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rockwool isn't the best for seeds, but it works; you need to transplant to medium well before you actually see roots though. your system will supply the water, the rw will stay moist, the plant will grow.
 

rbk3ai

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yeah i noticed they suck to me imo i germed a couple of fem white widow skunk and none of them grow through the rockwool i check a few days later and yanked them all out of the rockwool only to find massive amounts of brown root rot and my roots where all tangled into a root ball so i will never use rockwool although i hear plenty of good things about it i just suck with it so im using the rapid rooters and having good progress with it i got the lights over it now 4 23w floros is this enough light for one plant? well does anyone else have any other helpful info that alot of newbies run into? thanks for the help... help is needs from experinced hydro heads because i want to know before i run into some serious problems :confused:
 

kindprincess

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you have to shake the excess water out of rw when you plant. no nutes at all in rw, which is why they grow slower for the first week. your cubes were too wet, which caused the seeds to rot.
 

rbk3ai

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yeah im not using rockwool anymore im using rapid rooters... i some good things than i hear bad things but its up to the users choice so i will see but how often should i be watering my plants while there in the rapid rooters sitting in a pot with perlite surrounding them?
 

kindprincess

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i would just mist them once a day; when the seedling breaks dirt, transplant into your system; be prepared to change the water several times for a week or two, as the peat pellet will drop particles in the water, mucking it up (wich is why i don't use rapid rooters or peat pellets)
 

rbk3ai

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there about to break the little soil i poured in the pre drilled hole they have in the rapid rooters so one mist a day should be enough water for them? also they dont look like they will fall about to much they seem pretty durable well i will see how it goes thanks for the info so i know down the road also i wanted to know when i can start giving them nutes could i put nutes in the spary bottle and mist them with a small dose of nutes or is it too early to give them any kind of nutes...
 

kindprincess

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if you are using three inch net pots, no nutes til you see roots. otherwise, the best rule of thumb is nute after three true nodes (not including cotyledons)

mist once a day, enough to moisten the pellet, not saturate it. too wet=rootrot, too dry=dry out and fall over syndrome.
 

rbk3ai

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yeah im going to be using three inch net pots... also i got some superthrive, pro-tekt and liquid karma i just dont know when to use those either i didnt buy any of the nutes given to me by my brother who recently dropped his op so im taking it over and not sure about everything.
 

kindprincess

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i suggest, and highly recomend general hydroponics 3-part. specifically formulated for, and exclusively tested on mmj, and is by far the best nute system i've ever used.

you'll aslo need cal/mag imo
 

rbk3ai

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ive got flora nova nutes as well as some sample 3 part GH nutes also i got some pure blend pro nutes i just got a ton of nutes and not to sure what to use yet i heard good about all of them but i was planning on using the flora nova since i got the most of that...
 

rbk3ai

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flora nova is the new concentrated version of the old 3 part system flora nova is made by general hydroponics so im sure its all good well thanks for your insight hopefully i will get some more general info on most problems people run into...
 
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