NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

don't fuck around with cheap panels! when you compare LED to HID, in the long run they even out. No AC, they last longer, and will not loose intensity, and your electrical bill will be lower. Expect to spend >1k dollars upfront for a good LED setup.


Hey serapis, how much have you spent on your lights, all together?

Everyone hates the new kid on the block...wtf.

luckyskindaguy said:

The best use of LED's at this point is for smaller grows like cabinets. Places there isn't much space and you don't want to have to spend a lot on venting. I'm not one to say LED is the future or that it should be used commercially..... I do say that I wouldn't be able to use HPS in my cab but LED/CFL is working great for me!

What cracks me up is the hatred people have for anything other than what they "know"

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420n00b said:

Well that pricing is a bit "dramatic". Be that as it may LEDs are still on the pricey side so I can understand the complaints of cost. Like everyone else I want to know if the price is worth the result. Skepticism isn't a bad thing as long as you aren't a dick about it =P

Hurry up Serapis!

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You can't rush Mother Nature. I noticed with my loupe that the top leaves, on the edges, are beginning to form trichs. I'm sure the harvest will be around Thanksgiving.... how appropriate.

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What cracks me up is the hatred people have for anything other than what they "know"

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Some of those very people believe the moon landing was faked.... What are we gonna do?

tobikan.judan said:

don't fuck around with cheap panels! when you compare LED to HID, in the long run they even out. No AC, they last longer, and will not loose intensity, and your electrical bill will be lower. Expect to spend >1k dollars upfront for a good LED setup.


Hey serapis, how much have you spent on your lights, all together?

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<scratching head>

Lemme see, $325, $257 and $225 .... so about $800 in LED lights. My next grow will have 6 2700k CFLs in 8.5" reflector hoods added. I just have to know for my benefit whether the additional CFLs will make a difference.... something is urging me to do this strongly.

DEFORESTATION:

wELL, i FINALLY GOT TIRED OF MISSING COLAS AND HIDDEN BUD SITES. Opps...

The plants numbered 6-10 have had excessive leaves removed. I'm training them via pruning to have 4 strong colas each and lots of bud sites. By pruning early in veg, I'm encouraging branching. The plants have reacted well.

I've gone through plants 1-5 and have removed any leaf that was blocking other tops of bud sites along the stalks. After that and re-potting, the plants look different, but better.

Clones:

The future plants look very good. The tops are extremely healthy and strong. I've noticed the stems thickening a bit and the tips of the leaves are starting to yellow a bit, signs that the clones are rooting. Sometime today I'll gently squeeze excess water out of rock wool and I'll soak them in a gentle plant food with some soluble Nitrogen. The temp in humidity dome is a constant 84 degrees and humidity is at 90%. I'm allowing air exchanges twice a day now, and I believe I'll be potting these sometime next week or as soon as this weekend.

These were the tops that were cut off of plants 6-10 during their topping. I couldn't bare to toss away the tops so I cloned them for practice as I destroyed the first 5 tops. These are coming along awesome. I removed the yellowing fan leaves that were left and only new growth tops exist on the clones now.

This is going to put me in a position of having 5 three gallon pots flowering under the LEDs and 10 1.5 gal pots veging under 4x 4' 6500k cool White Plus bulbs. This is going to get interesting. I may be vegging all 5 tops for 3-4 months. I'm beginning to wish I had a second flowering room. With cloning, I could harvest every 3-4 weeks.

Serapis said:

You can't rush Mother Nature. I noticed with my loupe that the top leaves, on the edges, are beginning to form trichs. I'm sure the harvest will be around Thanksgiving.... how appropriate.



Some of those very people believe the moon landing was faked.... What are we gonna do?



<scratching head>

Lemme see, $325, $257 and $225 .... so about $800 in LED lights. My next grow will have 6 2700k CFLs in 8.5" reflector hoods added. I just have to know for my benefit whether the additional CFLs will make a difference.... something is urging me to do this strongly.

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MY suggestion if you put the CFL's in would be to keep the wattage near the same as this grow (240w) That way you will better be able to tell if it was the type of light over just additional wattage. That would be for scientific purposes at least.....

Also, I would try to keep to the same size and number of plants if you could.


You gonna post pics again soon?

Hey Serapis, you mind stopping by my thread and posting a little something? I haven't been getting much love over there lately

luckyskindaguy said:

MY suggestion if you put the CFL's in would be to keep the wattage near the same as this grow (240w) That way you will better be able to tell if it was the type of light over just additional wattage. That would be for scientific purposes at least.....

Also, I would try to keep to the same size and number of plants if you could.


You gonna post pics again soon?

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I just posted a lot of bud porn 2-3 days ago, lol... I'll get some pics taken soon.

It's definitely going to be same number of plants. I'm just wanting to supplement my LED with CFL, not totally replace it. I'm guessing around 100W extra in 2700k could be the difference in a few ounces.

Serapis said:

I just posted a lot of bud porn 2-3 days ago, lol... I'll get some pics taken soon.

It's definitely going to be same number of plants. I'm just wanting to supplement my LED with CFL, not totally replace it. I'm guessing around 100W extra in 2700k could be the difference in a few ounces.

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I was just wondering about the pics since you trimmed the plants up.

I know you were planning on supplementing, I just suggesting to keep the wattage close to the same so you would know if the next grow (if better or worse production occurs) will tell you if 2x120w LED or 1x120w LED and @ 120w CFL is better. Only since you states you were interested in scientific aspect of collecting data.

That said, I know what it's like to just want to grow as much as you can

Thanks for dropping by my thread. I start flush today, chop Sat!

Serapis said:

You can't rush Mother Nature. I noticed with my loupe that the top leaves, on the edges, are beginning to form trichs. I'm sure the harvest will be around Thanksgiving.... how appropriate.

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Yeah I know, I'm just getting anxious. Been following this grow since shortly after you started and very interested in seeing the results. What a thing to have a completion time around thanksgiving.

I'm also getting anxious because my very first grow started flowering last week so seeing more flowering pics and bud porn is win =D

420n00b said:

Yeah I know, I'm just getting anxious. Been following this grow since shortly after you started and very interested in seeing the results. What a thing to have a completion time around thanksgiving.

I'm also getting anxious because my very first grow started flowering last week so seeing more flowering pics and bud porn is win =D

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The first set of pistils always excite me. These plants were vegging for far too long because of my burn incident early in the grow. That'll never happen again. The plants are stretching again, after I thought stretching was done, they are gaining about 1" every 2 days. The bigger pots are working. If it sets back harvest, oh well, my dealer is back in business again, I'll wait.

Serapis said:

The first set of pistils always excite me. These plants were vegging for far too long because of my burn incident early in the grow. That'll never happen again. The plants are stretching again, after I thought stretching was done, they are gaining about 1" every 2 days. The bigger pots are working. If it sets back harvest, oh well, my dealer is back in business again, I'll wait.

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Sweet, that should allow you to sit back and relax and not rush the process. Enjoy the show!

About 14 days into flowering

Here are some new pics. Notice the nice flowers showing up all over. I've got some close ups here that allow you to see the mushroom shaped trich's forming. This camera has a killer macro...

Enjoy the pics. I used flash and a photog tripod light to capture the true color of the plants, rather than the LEDs color. LED plant pics are OK, but I get tired of seeing bluish purple leaves.

Enjoy.

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Reported post, hope you get banned. I think he has you on ignore anyways so he can't even read your crap.

Serapis, the plants look amazing! Look better than mine at 21 days of 12/12.

No, but I can see your post Mr2 and thanks for catching that before he edited it. I have reported it as well and provided a copy of the original. How sad that this idiot just won't go away and learn already. I hope the mods deal with him a lot harsher this time. I'm about fed up with it...

Thanks for the kind words Mr.2 I removed leaves that were blocking bud sites and the flowers are taking off! I'm hoping the entire thick stalks will flower over from top to bottom. I was reading up on the Bubble Gum strain and it described these plants traits to a TEE.... slow to grow in veg, short and squat plants until you flower, then they stretch hard and the mains really thicken up to get ready for the weight.

Serapis said:

No, but I can see your post Mr2 and thanks for catching that before he edited it. I have reported it as well and provided a copy of the original. How sad that this idiot just won't go away and learn already. I hope the mods deal with him a lot harsher this time. I'm about fed up with it...

Thanks for the kind words Mr.2 I removed leaves that were blocking bud sites and the flowers are taking off! I'm hoping the entire thick stalks will flower over from top to bottom. I was reading up on the Bubble Gum strain and it described these plants traits to a TEE.... slow to grow in veg, short and squat plants until you flower, then they stretch hard and the mains really thicken up to get ready for the weight.

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Yea, they really do take off during flower. I'm not sure if mine will be a heavy yield but I'm hoping it will do some. From the way they look, if they don't put on any more weight I'll still be happy.

Thanks all. I can also see that the problem has been taken care of. Let's get back to growin weed!

damn serapis theyre lookin might fine!!! ur keeping them nice and healthy.
how much do you think those side panels will increase your yield?
peace

how tall are the plants that are in flowering?

tranquility said:

damn serapis theyre lookin might fine!!! ur keeping them nice and healthy.
how much do you think those side panels will increase your yield?
peace

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I think the side panels were a waste of money and time. CFL or Flouro would have been better.

luckyskindaguy said:

how tall are the plants that are in flowering?

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My tallest is 19" measured from top of pot to top of flower. Most are around 14-16" colas

I noticed that the concern is stealth. If you Run the 1000w hps's without bonnets the coppers can't positively identify it as a grow. They use radar heat signature and without the big metal bonnets the signatures are negligable.