newbutpersistent
Well-Known Member
First of all, a little history.
This will be, I believe, my fourth home-growing attempt. All my previous attempts have fallen victim to my lack of knowledge and experience, coupled with my somewhat reckless adventurism. Such as seeing the "spot-gro" incandesants and assuming they would be adequate .
I would like to thank all the contributors to this site immensely. The only thing I had read before was the greenman article (if I'm not supposed to reffrence other sites on here, I apologize, just let me know) and in 2 weeks i have learned easily 100 times as much useful information. That information is what has led me to what is looking like my first succesful grow, and I really can't thank everybody at rollitup enough.
Okay a little info about this grow. I am growing from some pretty decent bagweed that i got. I tried a couple of germination methods and long story short, I currently have 2 plants growing. I have them growing in miracle grow moisture control soil (hopefully to help defend them against my watering adventures). They are growing in my closet under (2) 40 watt floros (3150 lumens each) for a total of 6300 lumens. Obviously as the plants are still small they do not cover a four foot long area, so they are not receiving the full effect. I also have a 1700 lumen cfl which is not hooked up currently (I'll explain why later). I did not keep an accurate log from the begging so i cannot give an exact age (due to my history, I was not completely confident that they would even survive this long) but I estimate them at being 14 days from sprout. I do not have a proper grow box but am planning on constructing one soon. Earlier today I transplanted them into large 15" diameter by about 12" deep pots (I am not sure exactly how many gallons these hold but I belive it will be more than adequate for a 3'-4' plant (and yes, they are in seperate containers). I had to transplant them because I had previously transplanted them into a cut-off 2 liter bottle (one each) and I could see the roots after 4-5 days, so I transplanted. I have a box fan set about 2 feet away and it blows them around quite a bit (after one night of the fan gently blowing on them, I noticed the stem looked about twice as thick! Which I am very glad about because that has been one of my main problems before) althoug I've been turning it off so it doesn't mess up my suger-yeast co2 set-up which I also put together today.
First, why I expect success:
1) My plants are not stretching at all, in fact quite the opposite. So far I have 3 nodes with 1/2 - 1 cm in between so they may even be a little too close.
2) I set up my ghetto co2 system, I didn't have alot of sugar on hand so i used a bit of molasses and some yeast, i wasn't sure if it would work but the little bastard is bubbling away.
3) They have a real nice color, not as green as i would hope but i haven't really been adding nutes, I will probably start tonight or more likely tommorow. I also have some questions about that.
4) A week or so ago I kind of Nute-burned one of the plants and was a little worried but it is showing new vibrant green growth.
Now to the questions:
1) I currently have 3 fertilizers. A) MG Liquid plant food (12-4- B) MG pellet plant food (24-8-16) and C) "Espoma" Urea pellets (45-0-0) *note - espoma also makes a potash mix (0-0-60) and a triple phosphate mix (0-46-0). I am planning on buying those in a couple weeks, they're very cheap $5 for a 5 pound bag of each*. I am planning on having 3 seperate gallon containers and having a concentrated mix of each chemical. Then when it is time to feed, i will mix them in a garden spray bottle that i have which has lines on the side to tell you how much youve added, so that each feeding i can adjust the concentrations. My question is, because 2 of my ferts are solids, how can I tell the percentage of each after I mix it with water? I could do it easily by weight, except that I don't have a scale, so if anybody perhaps remembers a little more of their chemistry than me,maybe than can give some tips.
2) Will the mollasses in my co2 system have any adverse effects?
3) The 2 floros i have are GE Ecolux, 3150 lumens, 40w, and 4100K. If I remmber what I read correctly, That is pretty close to what i need (however i could be wrong) for the veg. stage.
4) I have looked on the package and the internet about my cfl and cannot find the color temp anywhere, it is a GE soft white 100 spiral cfl. 26w, 1700 lumens. When placed next to the floros it visibly appears much more orange in color. I was wondering if anybody knew what the kelvins are for this bulb, or where i could find that info. On that note, at wal-mart the other day, i was perusing the light section and noticed a number of cfl's at 6500k, is that the spectrum i need for flowering ( I think I read somewhere that it was) or if not, what kind of spectrum and/or bulb should i use for flowering (and right now I'm not really able to pick up an HID system, althoug believe me I KNOW they're so much better, I truly do, it's just not in the cards, atleast not for this grow. Maybe once I have one grow success, I can justify some added expense to my GF).
5) Finally, I have yellowpage.com'd hydroponics supply stores and what-not for my area and came up with nada, is there any listing anywhere that has a list by area of hydro stores, so maybe for this or the next grow I can pick up some better supplies.
Thanks in advance for all the advice, I've already learned so much and hopefully with your help I can be well on my way to garden bliss.
ps. sorry for such the long opening, i just had quite a bit to get out there. No camera right now but hopefully soon I will pick one up so you can see what I'm talking bout.
This will be, I believe, my fourth home-growing attempt. All my previous attempts have fallen victim to my lack of knowledge and experience, coupled with my somewhat reckless adventurism. Such as seeing the "spot-gro" incandesants and assuming they would be adequate .
I would like to thank all the contributors to this site immensely. The only thing I had read before was the greenman article (if I'm not supposed to reffrence other sites on here, I apologize, just let me know) and in 2 weeks i have learned easily 100 times as much useful information. That information is what has led me to what is looking like my first succesful grow, and I really can't thank everybody at rollitup enough.
Okay a little info about this grow. I am growing from some pretty decent bagweed that i got. I tried a couple of germination methods and long story short, I currently have 2 plants growing. I have them growing in miracle grow moisture control soil (hopefully to help defend them against my watering adventures). They are growing in my closet under (2) 40 watt floros (3150 lumens each) for a total of 6300 lumens. Obviously as the plants are still small they do not cover a four foot long area, so they are not receiving the full effect. I also have a 1700 lumen cfl which is not hooked up currently (I'll explain why later). I did not keep an accurate log from the begging so i cannot give an exact age (due to my history, I was not completely confident that they would even survive this long) but I estimate them at being 14 days from sprout. I do not have a proper grow box but am planning on constructing one soon. Earlier today I transplanted them into large 15" diameter by about 12" deep pots (I am not sure exactly how many gallons these hold but I belive it will be more than adequate for a 3'-4' plant (and yes, they are in seperate containers). I had to transplant them because I had previously transplanted them into a cut-off 2 liter bottle (one each) and I could see the roots after 4-5 days, so I transplanted. I have a box fan set about 2 feet away and it blows them around quite a bit (after one night of the fan gently blowing on them, I noticed the stem looked about twice as thick! Which I am very glad about because that has been one of my main problems before) althoug I've been turning it off so it doesn't mess up my suger-yeast co2 set-up which I also put together today.
First, why I expect success:
1) My plants are not stretching at all, in fact quite the opposite. So far I have 3 nodes with 1/2 - 1 cm in between so they may even be a little too close.
2) I set up my ghetto co2 system, I didn't have alot of sugar on hand so i used a bit of molasses and some yeast, i wasn't sure if it would work but the little bastard is bubbling away.
3) They have a real nice color, not as green as i would hope but i haven't really been adding nutes, I will probably start tonight or more likely tommorow. I also have some questions about that.
4) A week or so ago I kind of Nute-burned one of the plants and was a little worried but it is showing new vibrant green growth.
Now to the questions:
1) I currently have 3 fertilizers. A) MG Liquid plant food (12-4- B) MG pellet plant food (24-8-16) and C) "Espoma" Urea pellets (45-0-0) *note - espoma also makes a potash mix (0-0-60) and a triple phosphate mix (0-46-0). I am planning on buying those in a couple weeks, they're very cheap $5 for a 5 pound bag of each*. I am planning on having 3 seperate gallon containers and having a concentrated mix of each chemical. Then when it is time to feed, i will mix them in a garden spray bottle that i have which has lines on the side to tell you how much youve added, so that each feeding i can adjust the concentrations. My question is, because 2 of my ferts are solids, how can I tell the percentage of each after I mix it with water? I could do it easily by weight, except that I don't have a scale, so if anybody perhaps remembers a little more of their chemistry than me,maybe than can give some tips.
2) Will the mollasses in my co2 system have any adverse effects?
3) The 2 floros i have are GE Ecolux, 3150 lumens, 40w, and 4100K. If I remmber what I read correctly, That is pretty close to what i need (however i could be wrong) for the veg. stage.
4) I have looked on the package and the internet about my cfl and cannot find the color temp anywhere, it is a GE soft white 100 spiral cfl. 26w, 1700 lumens. When placed next to the floros it visibly appears much more orange in color. I was wondering if anybody knew what the kelvins are for this bulb, or where i could find that info. On that note, at wal-mart the other day, i was perusing the light section and noticed a number of cfl's at 6500k, is that the spectrum i need for flowering ( I think I read somewhere that it was) or if not, what kind of spectrum and/or bulb should i use for flowering (and right now I'm not really able to pick up an HID system, althoug believe me I KNOW they're so much better, I truly do, it's just not in the cards, atleast not for this grow. Maybe once I have one grow success, I can justify some added expense to my GF).
5) Finally, I have yellowpage.com'd hydroponics supply stores and what-not for my area and came up with nada, is there any listing anywhere that has a list by area of hydro stores, so maybe for this or the next grow I can pick up some better supplies.
Thanks in advance for all the advice, I've already learned so much and hopefully with your help I can be well on my way to garden bliss.
ps. sorry for such the long opening, i just had quite a bit to get out there. No camera right now but hopefully soon I will pick one up so you can see what I'm talking bout.