nuclear weaponry

lol well looking at internet forums always gives you a very poor window on life and we got 2 years left and my bet is a prezzie with titties who's stupid enough to press that big red button

Thanks fdd. I can now smile all day.

Yes, the internet is the cradle of all sorts of crazy ideas.... like the world ending in 2012 because of an ancient calendar ...

Japan was told to surrender after the first bomb was dropped.... but they didn't. It took two.

CrackerJax said:

Yes, the internet is the cradle of all sorts of crazy ideas.... like the world ending in 2012 because of an ancient calendar ...

Japan was told to surrender after the first bomb was dropped.... but they didn't. It took two.

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lol i dont beleive in the prophecy itself as the mayans stated it alltho i think it might end up being self fulfilling one becuase of all the stupid people who really beleive it

tinyTURTLE said:

we killed more people in japan through conventional firebombing than were killed in both nuclear bomb blasts.
even after hundreds of thousands of civilians had been burned to death, japan was still not willing to capitulate.
only after they were rocked by nukes did they come to their senses.
if they hadn't come to the bargaining table after that, the japanese americans in the camps might have been the only japanese left alive on the planet.
we were willing to eradicate them. Scrub them off their island nation like old paint from a park bench.
they are lucky they surrendered.

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Not to sure about your numbers. The blast my not have killed more during the war but as of 2009 there where still 20035k people suffering from the bombing. I bet alot of them were not even born when the bomb went off.

are you threatening me?


fuck no, drop the damn bombs.

Japan was a brutal empire....simply brutal. If you read up on what they did in China.... sends shivers down my spine. They deserved what they received....and then some.

stumps said:

Not to sure about your numbers. The blast my not have killed more during the war but as of 2009 there where still 20035k people suffering from the bombing. I bet alot of them were not even born when the bomb went off.

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what the hell is 20035k?
is it 20,035,000?
because that seems unlikely.

my numbers are correct.
350,000 dead from conventional firebombing/ 200,000 from nukes on hiroshima and nagasaki.

In the Pacific theater, the U.S. firebombed Tokyo and killed 100,000 in the deadliest conventional bombing in history, while some 250,000 other civilians died in 66 other firebombed Japanese cities.[citation needed]
In addition, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed over 200,000 people.[13]

You can kill very effectively on the street as well.... here is just ONE of MANY atrocities committed by the Japanese during WW2. You can perhaps understand why we used the bomb.

Nanking, China. Over 200,000 Chinese men used for bayonet practice, machine gunned, or set on fire. Thousands more were murdered. 20,000 women and girls were raped, killed or mutilated. The massacre of a quarter million people was an intentional policy to force China to make peace. It did not happen. World opinion, which until this time had accepted modern Japan's desire to oversee backward China, was repelled in horror.

sorry that would be 235,000. So you are saying 350,00 died over the coarse of the war due to carpet bombing, and the two nukes killed 200,00. I guess I still don't see the point. why are capet bombings more afective?

It depends on your goal..... Japan had been bombed MIGHTILY...and yet they were still fierce in their commitment to fight to the death.

The nukes were used to SHOCK them into submission. It took two. They were used to the regular bombings.... it depends on the situation.

Thats true. I don't think they were after shock. I think they were after turning them to glass. the only reason they only dropped two was they didn't have 3. You should see the places they were making the stuff for the bombs. I can come up with pic's of the place I grew up. Back when it was a goverment town. we had the worlds largest trialer park. lol there where not any houses yet. for years all the old roads were out there. thats where I learned to drive. we even had a pow/internment cap for amarican japs.

Incorrect. They were offered to surrender BEFORE the first one...then AFTER the first one..and then finally AFTER the second one.

If we had to invade, in 1945, the US military estimated there could have been as many as 1 MILLION US soldier casualties. Probably all of your granddads would have died there. The Japanese were that fanatical.

stumps said:

sorry that would be 235,000. So you are saying 350,00 died over the coarse of the war due to carpet bombing, and the two nukes killed 200,00. I guess I still don't see the point. why are capet bombings more afective?

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they aren't more effective.
they weren't shocking enough.
and it wasnt 350,000 over the course of the war. it was 350,000 after we got control of the marianas in 1945.
and cracker is totaly right.
the japanese were some evil-doing motherfuckers in china and eastern russia.

and they weren't about to stop.
so we had to stop them.
and we did.
fuckin' a.

It's easy to sit back with hinsight and cherry pick data.... but for the ppl living through the horror of the Pacific war.... dropping the bomb was a no brainer.

You should watch "the rape of Nanking".... here is part 1.... do not try and eat snacks while watching this.... it's not a hollywood movie.... the Japanese were not the same folks you see walking around today snapping pictures and making Japanamation films.... they were some highly crazed JIHADISTS ... for the Emperor...who they considered to be G*D incarnate.

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Interesting....

Hey CJ...were the japanese militaristic left-wing fascists just like the nazis?

I'm all for having a nuclear deterrent, but do we really need 2700 extremely redundant deterrents? Having them might have made us safe during the cold war, but today the 2600 we don't need are more of a nuisance than anything else. And know the russians have at least that many isn't very reassuring either. Interesting story: When the USSR collapsed, they couldn't even give a definite number on how many nuclear weapons they actually had. Because each branch of their military had it's own nuclear capability in addition to ICBMs, they genuinely had no idea exactly how many there were....

abe23 said:

I'm all for having a nuclear deterrent, but do we really need 2700 extremely redundant deterrents? Having them might have made us safe during the cold war, but today the 2600 we don't need are more of a nuisance than anything else. And know the russians have at least that many isn't very reassuring either. Interesting story: When the USSR collapsed, they couldn't even give a definite number on how many nuclear weapons they actually had. Because each branch of their military had it's own nuclear capability in addition to ICBMs, they genuinely had no idea exactly how many there were....

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this is exactly why i think the world powers are a bunch of PUSSIES.

abe23 said:

Interesting....

Hey CJ...were the japanese militaristic left-wing fascists just like the nazis?

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No, the Japanese were their own kind of crazy.... they just fit into the plans of Hitler to keep the US busy and to crush the British in Asia....crumbling their supply of rubber, which would have changed the outcome surely. They were a strategic alliance, not ideological, as with the Soviet Union.

By the way... you should ALREADY know these things...

Stay in skool kidzz.... or go to a better one.

CrackerJax said:

No, the Japanese were their own kind of crazy.... they just fit into the plans of Hitler to keep the US busy and to crush the British in Asia....crumbling their supply of rubber, which would have changed the outcome surely. They were a strategic alliance, not ideological, as with the Soviet Union.

By the way... you should ALREADY know these things...

Stay in skool kidzz.... or go to a better one.

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yes, hitler would likely have turned on japan like he turned on russia.
only i think japan would have come out on top.
those german alpen-kinder would have died fast and miserable in the jungles of burma and the philipines.