whitebb2727
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Not much to show. I got some plants going. Going to find mother or two. Going perpetual.
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Dr. Who
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Sycamore tree? Big older one eh?
So did you get one?
It's Dec. 1st so it's back to Bow, and then Black powder 15th to the 28th. Jan 1st to the 14th is late season Doe for land owner permits...
I got a spike by mercy killing.....Some ass-hat shot it's right front foot off! I get wounded deer every year as they come out of the state land on 2 sides of me and lay by the pond and creek out in the back yard....Wife gets up for work and spots them laying by the pond (lighted area). I just can't let them suffer so I "relieve" their pain and use a tag. We have a farm permit..One son came home from college to ride the top of a harvester to attempt to get a "Bullwinkle" buck on weekends we harvested. His brother got him coming into the field next to the house that last night (Bow) from the creek swale, following a hot doe.....
whitebb2727
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I'm still hunting the big one. He usually doesn't show after chasing does until right around the first of the year. Ill start hunting heavy again last week of this month.
Sycamore. Its pretty big.
Dr. Who
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Good luck! I like trees....
Tim Fox
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perpetual sounds so fun,, have you considered perpetual with autos?
you know, light always on 18/6 move them left to right,, start auto seeds on one side,, repeat over and over,, may be eaiser that always cloning and keeping a mother,, although you would have to purchase seeds
whitebb2727
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I was thinking a perpetual scrog or just a crap load of plants. With mothers and clones there is a faster turn around and faster I can flower them.
The autos would work but also cost more for electric. I can cut my bigger cab down to 12/12 and have the little one at 18/6.
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whitebb2727
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I attached the 2x2 to the side of the 2x4. I cut a 4 inch hole in the side and sealed them together ad cut an intake hole in the back of the 2x2. The fan and filter is actually way more than the 2x4 needs. The fan/filter will draw air from the its own intake hole and from the 2x2 cab. It will pull more from its own intake hole because it is bigger, that's fine. I will be using led in the little cab.
I had some strip leds laying around and 60 watt driver. I used the same brand strips to light some book shelves and a single strand has keep some vines green and happy for about a year. I figure They will work for a mother and some clones or seedlings. I got a box of 4 led bulbs for $10. 2700k, I know not ideal but these are 14 actual watts and 1100 lumens each. I know, I know. Lumens are useless to plants but gives me an idea. The strip led is either 5000k or 6500k. That will put it at around 90 actual watts of led. Should be enough for now. I think cobs are in order after Christmas and the first of the year.
I popped the covers off the led bulbs. WARNING!!! I used a knife. It is very dangerous so be careful if you try it. I took the blade and lightly worked it around where the cover attaches. Slowly and carefully work at it. Once it starts a little you can work a flat piece of metal around it. Pry a little at a time and it pops off. Stick it back on if the bulb fails to return it. Please be careful. I have had stitches for doings things like this. I used the knife just to start then used the side of a butter knife that doesn't have teeth. Be careful not to go in too far or you can damage the board. I actually used the butter knife for prying.
Ill get pics of the cab and strip led later.
I had some strip leds laying around and 60 watt driver. I used the same brand strips to light some book shelves and a single strand has keep some vines green and happy for about a year. I figure They will work for a mother and some clones or seedlings. I got a box of 4 led bulbs for $10. 2700k, I know not ideal but these are 14 actual watts and 1100 lumens each. I know, I know. Lumens are useless to plants but gives me an idea. The strip led is either 5000k or 6500k. That will put it at around 90 actual watts of led. Should be enough for now. I think cobs are in order after Christmas and the first of the year.
I popped the covers off the led bulbs. WARNING!!! I used a knife. It is very dangerous so be careful if you try it. I took the blade and lightly worked it around where the cover attaches. Slowly and carefully work at it. Once it starts a little you can work a flat piece of metal around it. Pry a little at a time and it pops off. Stick it back on if the bulb fails to return it. Please be careful. I have had stitches for doings things like this. I used the knife just to start then used the side of a butter knife that doesn't have teeth. Be careful not to go in too far or you can damage the board. I actually used the butter knife for prying.
Ill get pics of the cab and strip led later.
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whitebb2727
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Which ones? I paid around $130 shipped for my 8 bulb 4ft unit with cheap bulbs. I now have amazon prime. I didn't at the time and had to pay shipping. The light is around $115.
Expensive bulbs? Some are. Those Hortilux bulbs are 20-30 bucks a piece depending where you get them. Are they worth it? @RM3 is testing some.
I use agromax bulbs. Their pure uv bulb is the most expensive. The other bulbs like the veg, bloom, pure par and 10k+uva ar 7-9 bucks a pop at htg and cheaper on their ebay store.
Tim Fox
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i meant,, are they expensive to run 18/6 in electrical cost
you were saying electrical costs is why you want to run photos instead of autos
whitebb2727
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Not really. My electric is cheap. Its not that it is expensive. 20 bucks a month if I want to leave it on 24 hours a day.
Its a combo of things that made me decide to go photo. The speed of turn around on clones, consistency and yield being a few.
I made some of my own auto seeds. At some point I may work with those or other autos to breed a good single cola plant to suit my needs.
I also document these grows and my mistakes. I got a couple over watered and over fed young plants that I transplanted and will nurse back green. The different grow styles. I figure all this could be put together into a book or guide at some point.
HydroRed
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I did this same thing in my veg room. I got one of the 12 outlet power strips from Harbor Freight and 12 of the socket adapters so I could plug the bulbs into the power strip. I vegged my GG for months with it with great success and only used about 110W total for the entire strip and was getting approx 9600 lumens. Just under a 100 lumens per watt so not too bad for a home made light kit.
whitebb2727
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I figured it would work fine. I thought if I had to I could add a couple 23 inch single t5 in there, could even put a 10,000k+uva bulb. That would be a decent mix of spectrum.
Tim Fox
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thats cool
Tim Fox
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agree with you , and consistant height,, when growing the same strain over and over
whitebb2727
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I figure I could do the same in the 2x2. A mother or two and a cloning station.
Maybe see If I could graft 2 strains together and make one plant to save space. Seems I read of someone doing that with several strains to cut down on plant count.
whitebb2727
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The strip led panel. I got a few more pieces to put on it. Had to order some more those wires with the clips on the end to join them.
The hole between cabs. I will make a light trap.
One c99. Might be a mother plant.
The hole between cabs. I will make a light trap.
One c99. Might be a mother plant.
whitebb2727
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I'll get it painted and use a piece of aluminum for the leds. Just a mock-up.