Obama Decides Cancer Treatment for Children is Non-Essential

FreedomWorks

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No matter who's fault the shutdown is one key portion of that story stood out right away


These are not proven treatments and may not work to begin with.
"Last Chance Experimental" is what I posted. Of course that means "not proven" as you put it. Nobody is trying to pull the wool over your eyes buddy. Either you support it or you don't. It's very simple, you either support Obama's actions or you don't. So let me break it down for you ricky0heart

If you were to label something essential or non-essential, (Assuming you're Obama) which of these would you choose:

#1 Keeping Camp David open for Obama so that he can continue to use it as a retreat and vacation spot. Also keep Obama's golf course open and fully staffed. Also keeping Obama's kitchen fully staffed with a lot of chefs.

Would you consider that essential OR

#2 Shut down Camp David, the military golf course, cut back on chefs during this shutdown, and then use whatever money is left over to help some kids with cancer?

Which would you choose? Obama can sign the proposal to exclusively fund NIH, and help these kids by tomorrow WITHOUT giving ONE THING TO REPUBLICANS. But he won't do it.
 

ricky1lung

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If your childish ass got denied treatment, you'd deny The One. But it's not happening to you, so everyone else is a cry baby.
I didnt call anyone a cry baby.
How would I deny anyone treatment when I help pay for everyone to get treatment?
I said experimental treatments that have not been proven to work should not be covered because they are not proven to work.

So if you would like someone to offer an all placebo under the guise it "might work" and have you pay for it you would be willing to?
If so, I have a sugar & water diet that you might be interested in to cure your ailments.
 

ricky1lung

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"Last Chance Experimental" is what I posted. Of course that means "not proven" as you put it. Nobody is trying to pull the wool over your eyes buddy. Either you support it or you don't. It's very simple, you either support Obama's actions or you don't. So let me break it down for you ricky0heart

If you were to label something essential or non-essential, (Assuming you're Obama) which of these would you choose:

#1 Keeping Camp David open for Obama so that he can continue to use it as a retreat and vacation spot. Also keep Obama's golf course open and fully staffed. Also keeping Obama's kitchen fully staffed with a lot of chefs.

Would you consider that essential OR

#2 Shut down Camp David, the military golf course, cut back on chefs during this shutdown, and then use whatever money is left over to help some kids with cancer?

Which would you choose? Obama can sign the proposal to exclusively fund NIH, and help these kids by tomorrow WITHOUT giving ONE THING TO REPUBLICANS. But he won't do it.
I didn't make the rules for what is deemed essential. I didn't want to see the gov shut down.
Here it is shutdown, and everyone is quick to point out that through the bickering and dysfunction there
are services being cut because that is what they wanted.

Like no one knew before hand that they would see services shutdown.

So it's Obama's fault?

Really look at why the services were/are being cut to begin with, look at how the PUB's are the ones
who forced it by trying to have coverage for everyone cut.

Then come back and call me more names for speaking the truth.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Why not offer something valid instead of resorting to name calling.
I don't need to, you're making my point about Obama supporters are mindless drones willing to say anything which justifies their home team. Open your mouth more, I need a good laugh.
 

FreedomWorks

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Really look at why the services were/are being cut to begin with, look at how the PUB's are the ones
who forced it by trying to have coverage for everyone cut.

Then come back and call me more names for speaking the truth. ricky0heart
Just so we are clear ricky, how did the republicans force this government "shutdown", and what have they done to have everyone's coverage cut?
Because the person you are describing to me in a nutshell is Obama. His landmark legislation Obamacare, has been making health care unaffordable for millions of people all across the country. Premiums have been sky rocketing. I thought Obama said my cost would go down 2500$ a year.

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Samwell Seed Well

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"Last Chance Experimental" is what I posted. Of course that means "not proven" as you put it. Nobody is trying to pull the wool over your eyes buddy. Either you support it or you don't. It's very simple, you either support Obama's actions or you don't. So let me break it down for you ricky0heart


i think thiswhole gov shut down cry baby red balloon crap is proof that no it is not that simple, and the old guard is on the way out

Affordable care act is the law, get used to it you crazies
 
Democrats lost the House in 2010 BECASUE OF Obamacare....

John McCain, Mitch McConnell and other liberal republicans have been spewing out the same stupid argument as you have all week. So what the hell are you talking about? Obama, like a petulant little child better get his way, or he will take his ball and go home. If that wasn't bad enough, that shake down artist Obomber you love so much, is now shutting down the lot so that nobody with a ball can play. Amazingly finding resources to block and barricade anything he possibly can out of spite. How come every aspect of Obama's tax payer funded life is deemed essential? By HIM, and then for everybody else he decides its all non-essential? Is it because we have a narcissist in the white house?
Sorry I forgot there is a few intelligent left on the right like a plan designed by mitt romney! Lol A stupid argument is when u grasp at short straws to sideline what's really on at the kindergarteners tea party.

Obama wants everyone to have health care, ur right what a self absorbed narcissistic prick. Right wingers want to remove a measly 2.3% medical device tax for a industry that already has a huge profit margin lining their pockets. I'm sorry who's the narcissist?

Maybe a federally run education system is necessary so u learn to read the correct way, left to right :) lol
 

FreedomWorks

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Sorry I forgot there is a few intelligent left on the right like a plan designed by mitt romney! Lol A stupid argument is when u grasp at short straws to sideline what's really on at the kindergarteners tea party.

Obama wants everyone to have health care, ur right what a self absorbed narcissistic prick. Right wingers want to remove a measly 2.3% medical device tax for a industry that already has a huge profit margin lining their pockets. I'm sorry who's the narcissist?
You've got to be kidding me? With all the s#!t that's going on you want to switch the debate to medical device tax cuts? Maybe you should cite your source, because nobody knows what left wing media blog you are referring to. Obama is in the process of killing kids with cancer, and then YOU want to accuse ME of grasping at short straws? But ok, humor me. Go on with your charade about tax breaks for medical devices.
 

thecoolman

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Lets be realistic Berry has made this as punitive to the American people as possible.
His only goal is to continue spending like a mad man.
 
@canna

Umm I should of known better! I'll try to explain this in my best elementary teacher voice. The government shut down because the republicans won't increase debt ceiling without defunding the affordable care act. Options include the repeal of a medical-device tax enacted to help fund the health law or abolition of long-standing health-insurance subsidies for members of Congress.

This is why children with cancer are dying and fallen soldiers families aren't receiving benefits.

If u read left to right u might of just learned something!
 

FreedomWorks

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Umm I should of known better! I'll try to explain this in my best elementary teacher voice. The government shut down because the republicans won't increase debt ceiling without defunding the affordable care act. Options include the repeal of a medical-device tax enacted to help fund the health law or abolition of long-standing health-insurance subsidies for members of Congress.

This is why children with cancer are dying and fallen soldiers families aren't receiving benefits.

If u read left to right u might of just learned something!
Well I can get on board with that. What you said is accurate. But you left out the part about Obama, and the role he is playing in all of this.

I don't understand why individual's can't get a one year delay on Obamacare, when corporation have been given a pass by Obama. And why is congress given exemption waivers that nobody at the same income level is receiving? The republicans are asking to defund the train wreck known as Obamacare for 1 year(same as Obama has done for corporations) I don't think that is asking for too much. Obama is being unreasonable. Holding our veterans and kids with cancer hostage is inexcusable.
 

nitro harley

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Umm I should of known better! I'll try to explain this in my best elementary teacher voice. The government shut down because the republicans won't increase debt ceiling without defunding the affordable care act. Options include the repeal of a medical-device tax enacted to help fund the health law or abolition of long-standing health-insurance subsidies for members of Congress.

This is why children with cancer are dying and fallen soldiers families aren't receiving benefits.

If u read left to right u might of just learned something!
I thought the government shut down because the Dems wouldn't give the people a pass for one more year on the health care fine...The republicans gave the funding OK for obama care and the debt ceiling, but wanted the pass on the fine...Did you miss that part?...And that is why the government shut down..
 
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