Obama's real plan for health care

ViRedd

ViRedd

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Nice, Rick ...

Now watch the Progressives on the site try to spin this one. :lol:

This is the slight of hand that government usually uses. Check out Social Security for example. When a member of the general public is addressed by the Social Security Administration, the approach is that SS is a "retirement plan," or retirement insurance. When an employer is approached, it becomes a "tax."
 
MexicanWarlord420

MexicanWarlord420

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lolz ill put my spin on this to prove vi right. We r repblicns n we liek the corpershuns n rlly rich ppl cuz thay luk 4 r best intrests n stuff bcuz rush limpballs told us so
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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MexicanWarlord420 said:
lolz ill put my spin on this to prove vi right. We r repblicns n we liek the corpershuns n rlly rich ppl cuz thay luk 4 r best intrests n stuff bcuz rush limpballs told us so
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What a freakin' dork. You see it with your own eyes. You hear it with your own ears. And yet ... you are in denile. Who are you in real life, Cleopatra? (In denile) :lol:
 
MexicanWarlord420

MexicanWarlord420

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I'm not denying it at all. Personally, I'd love for there to be a single payer, and for those insurance companies to be dismantled, but I don't think Obama would go through with that. As Bush once said, denial is just a river in Libya. And I don't appreciate the personal insult *FURIOUSLY MASHES REPORT BUTTON*
 
undertheice

undertheice

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that another corrupt politician should change his message depending on the group to which he is speaking is nothing remarkable. that another corrupt politician should attempt to hide his agenda when he finds himself under attack is to be expected. that the president of the united states should blatantly lie to the people he is sworn to serve in an attempt to actively undermine what remains of a free market is inexcusable.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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MexicanWarlord420 said:
I'm not denying it at all. Personally, I'd love for there to be a single payer, and for those insurance companies to be dismantled, but I don't think Obama would go through with that. As Bush once said, denial is just a river in Libya. And I don't appreciate the personal insult *FURIOUSLY MASHES REPORT BUTTON*
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What "personal insult?" You haven't seen a personal insult ... YET. :lol:

And this was funny: "As Bush once said, denial is just a river in Libya."
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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I wish Obama's plan was a single payer system.

Sadly, it's not. But for these folks it is:

Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 2/11/2009
Rep Baca, Joe [CA-43] - 10/7/2009
Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] - 1/26/2009
Rep Becerra, Xavier [CA-31] - 3/17/2009
Rep Berman, Howard L. [CA-28] - 1/26/2009
Rep Bishop, Sanford D., Jr. [GA-2] - 2/23/2009
Rep Brady, Robert A. [PA-1] - 2/11/2009
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 3/3/2009
Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-8] - 2/23/2009
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 4/21/2009
Rep Chu, Judy [CA-32] - 7/31/2009
Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 1/26/2009
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 1/26/2009
Rep Cleaver, Emanuel [MO-5] - 2/23/2009
Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] - 1/26/2009
Rep Costello, Jerry F. [IL-12] - 2/3/2009
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 2/23/2009
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 1/26/2009
Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10] - 1/26/2009
Rep Dicks, Norman D. [WA-6] - 6/15/2009
Rep Doyle, Michael F. [PA-14] - 1/26/2009
Rep Edwards, Donna F. [MD-4] - 1/26/2009
Rep Ellison, Keith [MN-5] - 1/26/2009
Rep Engel, Eliot L. [NY-17] - 1/26/2009
Rep Farr, Sam [CA-17] - 1/26/2009
Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 2/11/2009
Rep Filner, Bob [CA-51] - 2/11/2009
Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] - 1/28/2009
Rep Fudge, Marcia L. [OH-11] - 6/2/2009
Rep Green, Al [TX-9] - 2/23/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 1/26/2009
Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [IL-4] - 1/26/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 6/11/2009
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 2/23/2009
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] - 1/26/2009
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 2/23/2009
Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] - 6/12/2009
Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 2/11/2009
Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] - 3/5/2009
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/26/2009
Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [GA-4] - 2/3/2009
Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 1/26/2009
Rep Kennedy, Patrick J. [RI-1] - 2/23/2009
Rep Kildee, Dale E. [MI-5] - 2/23/2009
Rep Kilpatrick, Carolyn C. [MI-13] - 1/26/2009
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 1/26/2009
Rep Lee, Barbara [CA-9] - 1/26/2009
Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 3/17/2009
Rep Loebsack, David [IA-2] - 3/24/2009
Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 5/20/2009
Rep Lujan, Ben Ray [NM-3] - 3/24/2009
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 2/23/2009
Rep Markey, Edward J. [MA-7] - 6/12/2009
Rep Massa, Eric J. J. [NY-29] - 1/26/2009
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/26/2009
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 3/3/2009
Rep Meek, Kendrick B. [FL-17] - 3/24/2009
Rep Meeks, Gregory W. [NY-6] - 1/26/2009
Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 3/19/2009
Rep Moore, Gwen [WI-4] - 2/11/2009
Rep Murtha, John P. [PA-12] - 7/9/2009
Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 1/26/2009
Rep Napolitano, Grace F. [CA-38] - 1/26/2009
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 5/20/2009
Rep Olver, John W. [MA-1] - 1/26/2009
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 3/19/2009
Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 3/3/2009
Rep Pingree, Chellie [ME-1] - 1/26/2009
Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 1/28/2009
Rep Rahall, Nick J., II [WV-3] - 9/29/2009
Rep Roybal-Allard, Lucille [CA-34] - 3/30/2009
Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] - 2/23/2009
Rep Ryan, Tim [OH-17] - 3/5/2009
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 2/23/2009
Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" [VA-3] - 2/23/2009
Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] - 6/9/2009
Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 2/23/2009
Rep Tierney, John F. [MA-6] - 1/28/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 1/26/2009
Rep Towns, Edolphus [NY-10] - 3/31/2009
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 2/23/2009
Rep Waters, Maxine [CA-35] - 3/19/2009
Rep Watson, Diane E. [CA-33] - 1/26/2009
Rep Weiner, Anthony D. [NY-9] - 7/9/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 2/23/2009
Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] - 2/11/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 1/26/2009
Rep Yarmuth, John A. [KY-3] - 2/23/2009
 
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phntmlrd

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The med industry is already heavily regulated by the government. Check out the AMA it's controlled by the pharma industries. Any doctor who uses unorthodox treatments such as natural cures and remedies will have his liscense taken away unless he's in Arizona. Obama has tried to trick Americans into thinking it is unregulated by the gov. The media always likes to give us 2 choices. In this case it's 'would you like to socialize medicine' or 'keep it the way it is?'Really we need less control on the med industry than is already imposed. Competition is the key. Who can provide the best care with smallest costs? An alternative to revamping the whole system is saying NO to big pharma companies. Prevention is 100x cheaper than actual treatment. Many medical problems can be prevented by healthy diets and living in a clean atmosphere(by that I mean less carcinogens). I have always wondered why cancer rates have skyrocketed. Is it because of all the nuclear testing that has been done? Cancer is their golden goose. Rather than cure it, med industry would prefer to rack up medical bills. In short, it's a racket. All about $$$ I suggest researching codex alimentarius.
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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phntmlrd said:
The med industry is already heavily regulated by the government. Check out the AMA it's controlled by the pharma industries. Any doctor who uses unorthodox treatments such as natural cures and remedies will have his liscense taken away unless he's in Arizona. Obama has tried to trick Americans into thinking it is unregulated by the gov. The media always likes to give us 2 choices. In this case it's 'would you like to socialize medicine' or 'keep it the way it is?'Really we need less control on the med industry than is already imposed. Competition is the key. Who can provide the best care with smallest costs? An alternative to revamping the whole system is saying NO to big pharma companies. Prevention is 100x cheaper than actual treatment. Many medical problems can be prevented by healthy diets and living in a clean atmosphere(by that I mean less carcinogens). I have always wondered why cancer rates have skyrocketed. Is it because of all the nuclear testing that has been done? Cancer is their golden goose. Rather than cure it, med industry would prefer to rack up medical bills. In short, it's a racket. All about $$$ I suggest researching codex alimentarius.
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Um, you do realize "health care reform" isn't really about health CARE, it's about health INSURANCE?
 
Iron Lion Zion

Iron Lion Zion

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doobnVA said:
Um, you do realize "health care reform" isn't really about health CARE, it's about health INSURANCE?
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The care you receive/can potentially receive is dictated by the health insurance you have.

Whatever the case, something needs happen with the issue(s). Wonder how this will affect me (financially) when I eventually get done.
 
Stargrow

Stargrow

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I have to admit that I thought this site would be full of socialists but it seems there are still a few moderate republicans left! :~) To the socialist that want single payer health care go live in Canada! Love ya'll though!
 
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hempcurescancer

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MexicanWarlord420 said:
lolz ill put my spin on this to prove vi right. We r repblicns n we liek the corpershuns n rlly rich ppl cuz thay luk 4 r best intrests n stuff bcuz rush limpballs told us so
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I couldn't even read that.

Sorry, I don't speak 14 year old text-messaging language. :-P
 
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hempcurescancer

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Stargrow said:
I have to admit that I thought this site would be full of socialists but it seems there are still a few moderate republicans left! :~) To the socialist that want single payer health care go live in Canada! Love ya'll though!
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I'd like to live in Canada, cept for the cold.
 
figtree

figtree

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why should we go live in canada when we can make our system better than that, or this one we have. why cant we have a single payer or even better, UNIVERSAL health care.

Whats funny though about the left vrs. right.

The right are not afraid to pull the trigger when it comes to a bad bill.
the left cant figure out how to do anything with out getting into a full on battle within its ranks, even with a supermajority.

If the left had half the balls as the right we would have all this by now, the right doesnt care who they shit on to get what they want. while the left waits, and waits. and loses their supermajority.............pussies. Pull the trigger then talk about how bad of a mistake it was, thats what the right does.... minus talking about how bad it was. everything the right does is "good" yeah right!
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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doobnVA said:
Um, you do realize "health care reform" isn't really about health CARE, it's about health INSURANCE?
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Um, make no mistake, it's about health CARE not insurance.

INSURANCE - the act, system, or business of providing financial protection for property, life, health, etc., against specified contingencies, such as death, loss, or damage, and involving payment of regular premiums in return for a policy guaranteeing such protection
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Contingency
a. An event that may occur but that is not likely or intended; a possibility.
b. A possibility that must be prepared for; a future emergency.
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If it were really about insurance would we really be telling the companies they HAVE to cover pre-existing conditions? Kind of like telling Geico they have to fix a car that was totaled BEFORE the customer signed with them.

And by the way, it's good to have you back posting under your original username doob.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Here is an anonymous qoute some of you might appreciate -

Now let me get this straight...we are going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a President that also hasn't read it and that smokes, with funding administered by a Treasury chief that didn't pay his taxes...all to be overseen by a surgeon general that's obese, and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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