Ok so where is the nutes for dummies thread?

2000tranzam

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Are there any stickies or anything showing the basics for nutes as far as what each one does for the plant, what the numbers mean, how you achieve them(i.e.10-5-5, etc...) I just want a read that can fill me in on everything I need to know about when, what and how much to feed my girlies.

TIA.
 

dbo24242

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hmm you want simplicity like a full nutrient schedule for a whole grow in the box with a recipe for each stage of growth?

Technaflora recipe for success starter kit might be good for you.

look at the ingredients on the bottles or wikipedia some plant biology.
 

dbo24242

New Member
Essential nutrients are
-Required for normal growth and reproduction-the plant cannot complete its life cycle without these nutrients
-Required for specific structures or metabolic functions.

Nutrient
Sources
Functions
% of dry plant mass
Deficiency symptom

MACRO

-Oxygen
O2, H2O
Electron acceptor in cellular respiration; major component of organic compounds.
45%
Cell death by suffocation

Carbon
CO2
Substrate for photosynthesis; major component of organic compounds.
45%
Cell death by starvation

Hydrogen
H2O
Major component of organic compounds; electrical balance and establishment of electrochemical gradients.
6%
Cell death by dessication

Nitrogen
NO3- (nitrate), NH4+ (ammonium ion)
Component of nucleic acids, proteins, hormones, and coenzymes.
1.5%
Failure to thrive; chlorosis (yellowing of leaves)

Potassium
K+
Cofactor for many enzymes necessary for osmotic adjustment in cells; required for synthesis of organic molecules.
1.0%
Chlorosis (yellowing) at margins of leaves or in mottled pattern; weak stems; short internodes

Calcium
Ca^2+
Refulator functions; role in cell wall structure; stabilizes membranes, controls movements; second messenger in signal transduction.
0.5%
Necrosis in meristems; deformation of young leaves; stunted, highly branched root system.

Magnesium
MG^2+
Chlorophyll component; activates many enzymes
0.2%
Chlorosis between leaf veins; premature leaf drop.

Phosphorus
H2PO4- (dihydrogen phosphate ion), HPO4^2- (hydrogen phosphate ion)
Used in energetic bonds; component of nucleic acids, phospholipids, and several coenzymes.
0.2%
Stunted growth in young plants; dark green leaves with necrosis (small spots of dead cells)

Sulfur
SO4^2- (sulfate ion)
Component of protein and coenzymes.
0.1%
Stunted growth; chlorosis (yellowing)

MICRO

Chlorine
Needed for water-splitting step of photosynthesis; functions in water balance and electrical balance.
0.01%
Wilting at leaf tips; general chlorosis and necrosis of leaves or development of bronze color.

Iron
Necessay for chlorophyl synthesis; component of cytochromes and gerredoxin; enzyme cofactor.
0.01%
Chlorosis between veins of young leaves

Manganese
Involved in photosynthetic O2 evolution; enzyme activator; important in electron transfer.
0.005%
Chlorosis between leaf veins and small necrotic spots.

Zinc
Involved in synthesis of auxin, maintenance of ribosome structure, and eenzyme activation.
0.002%
Small internodes; stunted and distorted ("puckered") leaves.

Boron
Cofactor in chlorophyll synthesis; possible role in sugar transport; aids in regulation of enzyme function.
0.002%
Black necrosis (dying) in young leaves and buds.

Copper
Cofactor of some enzymes; present in lignin of xylem.
0.0006%
Dark-green leaves with necrotic spots; twisted and malformed leaves.

Nickel
Cofactor for enzyme functioning ini nitrogen metabolism.
???%
Necrosis at leaf tips.

Molybdenum
Cofactor in nitrogen reduction; essential for nitrogen fixation.
0.00001%
Chlorosis between veins; necrosis of older leaves.

(Scott Freman's Biological Science, 2ed)


All of these nutrients are necessary for plants. Lockouts occur around pHs below 5.3 and above 6.5, approximately.

Accepted pH for hydro is 5.5-6.5
For soil 6.0 is the goal.
 

pgm420

Member
Technaflora recipe for success starter kit might be good for you.
I myself just stumbled upon that and noticed how simple the nutrient chart was. The one thing it does not say though is what size reservoir that is based off of. Does anyone know?
 

Lo'pan

Member
I myself just stumbled upon that and noticed how simple the nutrient chart was. The one thing it does not say though is what size reservoir that is based off of. Does anyone know?
It appears to me that the dbo was just trying to answer the OP's question about how the different nutrients affect the plant and what percentage of these nutrients make up the plant.

But to answer your question, what you need is a fertilizer that will meet the percentage requirements in dbo's post. Whatever fertilizer you pick will give you the nutes/H2O ratio.
 

dbo24242

New Member
I myself just stumbled upon that and noticed how simple the nutrient chart was. The one thing it does not say though is what size reservoir that is based off of. Does anyone know?
the whole recipe is written in ml/l or ml/g so not really sure what you're confused about.

if you have a 20 gal res and add 10 ml / gal you add 10ml/gal * 20 gal = 200ml.
 

ataxia

Well-Known Member
don't have it on hand but I reccomend the Fox Farm nute regimen... i use it ...its seems to work awesome.. their schedule also goes by teaspoons and tablespoons if you can't understand the metric system.:joint:
 

pgm420

Member
the whole recipe is written in ml/l or ml/g so not really sure what you're confused about.

if you have a 20 gal res and add 10 ml / gal you add 10ml/gal * 20 gal = 200ml.
That answers it perfectly I wasn't sure if it was 20 ml/g or if that was based on say a 10 gal reservoir. I am currently on my first grow and using powder nutes so I didn't know whether that looked like a lot or not so just wanted to confirm. Thank you.
 

EverythingHydro.com

Active Member
Are there any stickies or anything showing the basics for nutes as far as what each one does for the plant, what the numbers mean, how you achieve them(i.e.10-5-5, etc...) I just want a read that can fill me in on everything I need to know about when, what and how much to feed my girlies.

TIA.

My wife's name is Tia. What a cool name.

If you need anything, don't hesitate to ask (like cheap hydro stuff!)

In relation to your question, it's not so important that you know everything about nutrition. It's like saying you have to know how gas is made. However, it is nice to have an idea of how things work (like a cliff note version).

The best thing to do is use a reputable Veg formula and a Flowering formula. Pro Blend, Bontanical....B'Cuzz....and so on.

Good luck with everything. :-)

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DannyGreenEyes

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Are there any stickies or anything showing the basics for nutes as far as what each one does for the plant, what the numbers mean, how you achieve them(i.e.10-5-5, etc...) I just want a read that can fill me in on everything I need to know about when, what and how much to feed my girlies.

TIA.
Unfortunately I don't think there's anything that's gonna tell you everything. (the following is just a theory) I think it's probably because each strain is different and has different needs. But your girls will tell you if and what they need. The trick is learning how to listen to them which comes with time & practice.

Here are a few links to info & pictures showing nute burns and deficiencies. Also has important info on pests.
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/157345-have-plant-problem-check-here.html
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/216537-self-diagnose-your-plants.html
http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/Album3.htm

I'm posting a chart of the major & minor nutes that MJ needs. After reading Dbo's post I think they also need very small ammounts of chlorine, I think my plants are actually having a problem with that - necrosis. (Thanks again Dbo, I've been trying to figure out that problem for a while now).

The chart also shows how well plants absorb the nutes in different water pH levels. The top 3 nutes are your major nutes (4-9-2) and they're in order of how they appear in that 3 number rating. The rest are called minor nutes. There's also another term for them but I can't remember.

I just found a line of nutes recently that have several fertilizers with all the major & minor nutes. It even has a small ammount of chlorine which I was worried about until now. lol The line is called Dyna-Gro and you can check out the products they have and the different nute levels here www.dyna-gro.com

I hope this helps get you started.
 

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