arctic farmer
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This is a first for CL, I popped 4/5 males in the pack err. shes turning purple/black in the cold.
ML is looking a bit unhappy, maybe cut tomorrow.
ML is looking a bit unhappy, maybe cut tomorrow.
Oregon outdoor 2019
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graying.geek
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Well, 2019 outdoor is a wrap for me. What a fucked up September. The storm that blew through 10 days ago did it for me so they all came down -- fully 3 weeks before I had to cut last year. I do have to say, though, my outdoor grow skills took a positive turn this year, and despite my ongoing thirst for more direct sun (my garden just gets 3-4 hrs/day) my yield tripled from previous years. Chalk it up to proper use of amendments, but I ended up with 1.5 lb, dried to 60%. After washing, re-drying, processing into dried flour, and picking out errant stems, I ended up with 16 oz of cannabis flour for my nightly chocolate cookie edible and 2 oz of bud for buddy vaping.
Each batch of 3-doz cookies includes a 60 gram pint jar of "green flour." Yummy, and not for the faint of heart, but I'm pretty much a daily med user so my tolerance is really high. Just gotta be sure to put a warning on the jar for my spouse and son.
It was an odd year for me, and not just due to the early winter weather. I had high hopes for the 2 Durban Poisons but they were hit early in the summer by what I've come to believe was caffeine toxicity from mulching with coffee grounds. Stunted them early and they just never recovered. Despite that, though, they most certainly would have finished by the end of Sept with a reasonable yield instead of the stunted popcorn buds they ended up with. The best yielder in the garden, despite also getting the caffeine jolt, was a Jorge's Diamond. A plethora of nice, big, thick colas that would have been amazing if allowed to go another couple of weeks. I'm gonna have to give this one a try next year as well.
Any other valley people with promising strains for outdoor here in our rain forest?
Each batch of 3-doz cookies includes a 60 gram pint jar of "green flour." Yummy, and not for the faint of heart, but I'm pretty much a daily med user so my tolerance is really high. Just gotta be sure to put a warning on the jar for my spouse and son.
It was an odd year for me, and not just due to the early winter weather. I had high hopes for the 2 Durban Poisons but they were hit early in the summer by what I've come to believe was caffeine toxicity from mulching with coffee grounds. Stunted them early and they just never recovered. Despite that, though, they most certainly would have finished by the end of Sept with a reasonable yield instead of the stunted popcorn buds they ended up with. The best yielder in the garden, despite also getting the caffeine jolt, was a Jorge's Diamond. A plethora of nice, big, thick colas that would have been amazing if allowed to go another couple of weeks. I'm gonna have to give this one a try next year as well.
Any other valley people with promising strains for outdoor here in our rain forest?
Sir Napsalot
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Chernobyl has proven it's mold resistance for me
Humanrob
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Have you found a difference in the high from plants that were taken down early?
I read an article on this somewhere, and then checked against my own experience and it seems to concur, that plants taken down early have a 'speedier' buzz. The article said that THC forms before some of the other cannabinoids that balance the high, so the overall profile is not optimally balanced when they are cut early.
I saw a documentary (or segment) that talked about an experiment in GB where they gave people pure THC and the recipients complained about anxiety, and when they took larger amounts it could cause panics. The conclusion they came up with was that other aspects of cannabis naturally balance out that tendency, and that THC by itself is not responsible for the "high" that we enjoy. Other studies are being done around THC content, since pot these days is so much stronger than it used to be. I saw something that said the majority of the market (as a profit center) is daily users with high tolerances, so cannabis is largely being bred for high THC levels, but often this is at the expense of a balanced profile. This is causing more newbies to "freak out" by crossing the threshold where strong pot is too THC dominant.
My wife has been smoking for over 30 years, she has an incredibly high tolerance. Were we not to grow our own, she would fit squarely in the target market. I made a new batch of brownies for myself using a stronger butter, and I gave her 4x the amount I would normally take and she didn't even feel it. In the end, she likes the plants taken down a little earlier, there is no amount of cannabis she can smoke that will make her paranoid or anxious. I on the other hand become uncomfortable if I eat too much brownie made with butter from plants that have come down early. This was a hard lesson, since most if not all of my outdoor plants have come down early to some degree, and it's the bulky summer crop that made most of my butter.
If you are a heavy user/have a high tolerance you many not notice a difference, or you may not mind it. Just curious.
xtsho
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And that's really too bad. That's why I breed my own. I don't want or need some 30% THC strain. But I'm glad that it's available for those that do. Not everyone is looking for the same thing which is why it's good that there are so many choices.
graying.geek
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Other than potency, I can't say that I've noticed much difference, although, I've only tasted a couple of samples of this summer crop since I still have a some left from my spring grow. The lowered potency is what I notice most. My nightly cookie contains ~2 g of decarbed bud which was sufficient to assuage my insomnia and regulate my appetite if from my hydro crops that are allowed to "finish." The immature crop from this summer, though, takes about 1.3 cookies to do the trick. Obviously anecdotal, but draw you own conclusions.
Exactly. A balanced cannabinoid profile with high THCV and CBD is what I want, not the THC focussed strains that everyone clamors for.xtsho: said:
graying.geek
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My first foray into female seed production was more successful than I anticipated. I used STS to choke a Durban Poison female into producing pollen and dusted a second Durban, a Jorge's Diamond, and a Med OG Kush. This is half the haul just from the Durban plant:
Needless to say, I should have plenty of female seeds for the foreseeable future.
I'm thinking a mid-valley meetup might be in order come Nov or Dec. We could pick a centrally located brewpub or other appropriate venue. I'm more than happy to share my fem seeds with others willing to share. Anyone else think this would be cool?
Needless to say, I should have plenty of female seeds for the foreseeable future.
I'm thinking a mid-valley meetup might be in order come Nov or Dec. We could pick a centrally located brewpub or other appropriate venue. I'm more than happy to share my fem seeds with others willing to share. Anyone else think this would be cool?
BlazinDucks
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Well, as of yesterday my two main plants were taken down. The black cherry cheesecake was pretty miserable for the entirety of flowering. I stopped watering both plants a while ago and it dried up for the most part. Mostly brown with very small larfy buds all around. It got hit with budworms, but didn't have any pm issues.
The sundae driver was hit badly by Budrot. No worms to be found, but the density of the buds were just too much to avoid moisture issues. It's nasty and brown. Nearly fully coated in Pm from top to bottom. It slowly worked its way up and consumed her.
The garden was nearly completely dismantled yesterday. The cannabis went in the yard debris bin, the tomatoes went into a compost pile. I didn't keep a single bit of either cannabis plant to try out. I called it a complete loss and moved on.
I still have the little plant started from seed in a 7 gallon. It started to flower late, August 30th, and it looks to be on the sativa end. Most likely a Bruce Banner cross. I've only had a few tiny patches of rot to remove. Nothing in the past week. It'll go into early November most likely.
The weather has been good in Portland for the past 5 days or so, but back to long term rain in the days to come. Hoping to hang at least one plant this year. Even if it's only a half oz, I like smoking my own supply.
The sundae driver was hit badly by Budrot. No worms to be found, but the density of the buds were just too much to avoid moisture issues. It's nasty and brown. Nearly fully coated in Pm from top to bottom. It slowly worked its way up and consumed her.
The garden was nearly completely dismantled yesterday. The cannabis went in the yard debris bin, the tomatoes went into a compost pile. I didn't keep a single bit of either cannabis plant to try out. I called it a complete loss and moved on.
I still have the little plant started from seed in a 7 gallon. It started to flower late, August 30th, and it looks to be on the sativa end. Most likely a Bruce Banner cross. I've only had a few tiny patches of rot to remove. Nothing in the past week. It'll go into early November most likely.
The weather has been good in Portland for the past 5 days or so, but back to long term rain in the days to come. Hoping to hang at least one plant this year. Even if it's only a half oz, I like smoking my own supply.
xtsho
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What genetics were the Durban?
And count me in for a meet up. I'm always looking for a reason to go out and pound an IPA or two.
Sir Napsalot
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I'm still hangin' in there- haven't seen any PM, budrot, or caterpillars, but I have been dealing with some kind of stem rot in 4-5 stalks on my BCC which I cut out and am drying. I'll probably pull it down next weekend. My Chernobyl is almost black from the cold, but is unaffected by mold or bugs- it needs ~ 2 weeks to really finish but the forecast is for several days of rain so who knows how that'll work out.
Backyard dirt
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You're not alone. I have my ACDC slow walking toward the finish line. I hope to cut it down before Halloween. And like you, I've been blessed with an absence of worms and rot.
graying.geek
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I wanted a high THCV IBL with short flowering time, so went with Dutch Passion. Seems like you also like to grow African sativas so I'd be interested in your preferred breeding strains.
Cool. Hopefully others will chime in and we can pull something together.xtsho said:
dabby duck
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Took this down two days ago or so. Dew point dropping finally got me to cut. Had this for about 5 years now. Havent grown this cut in about 3 years, but did alot when I first found it. No mold, no PM, did fine with rain and freeze.
xtsho
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The Durban I'm using came from Sensi Seeds. I'm working on a cross of that and a green pheno of Pakistani Chitral Kush. I currently have some F3's of that in the oven. I prefer strains that have not been adulterated "too much" or have names five words or more long. For instance, I would never think of breeding with some cross called Space Monkey Pineapple Kush Cookies, etc... I am always on the lookout for old school stuff or landraces. Things like Old Timers Haze and other pure sativa's and indica's. I really like some of the stuff ACE and Cannabiogen have. And recently I've acquired a significant amount of landrace strains from The Real Seed Company. I've got some of their Mazar I Sharif going and I'm hoping for a stellar male to collect pollen from. Which I want to use to dust an Old Timers Haze I have in flower and save some pollen for a couple landrace sativa's from Central America I have seeds of. Honduras and Guatemala. But in all reality I'll be dead and gone before I'll be able to do what I want to do which changes like the wind. I really don't know what I'm doing but I'm having fun doing it.
Humanrob
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One of the best strains I've grown indoors and out was LSD, which is Mazar I Sharif x Skunk #1. I'm not sure if that's on your wish list, but recreating that cross would be amazing. Everything about LSD was impressive - it was a robust mold resistant plant, that smelled great and had huge frosty colas. Anyway, it sounds like you have done lots of research and have some goals in mind, I just couldn't resist sharing that...
xtsho
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I've got a cross of Durban + Pakistani Chitral Kush F2 that I crossed with a Dutch Passion Skunk #1
BlazinDucks
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Well, according to the weather forecast, we're rain free in Portland for the next 10 days at least. I put little trust in forecasts, but it is what it is. I still have the one plant left, I'll call it Steve.
For those of you that survived the shitty rains, you have some good lower humidity days and some much needed sun to look forward to. I haven't had any issues in the past couple weeks with rot. What I did get, was manageable and easily taken care of.
I think Steve will be done in the next 2 weeks for sure. The Tops are swelling up, and starting to purple a bit. I like the uniformity I got out of the plant. Makes me want to play with seeds more than clones next year.
Good luck in the coming weeks for those still hanging in their. 
For those of you that survived the shitty rains, you have some good lower humidity days and some much needed sun to look forward to. I haven't had any issues in the past couple weeks with rot. What I did get, was manageable and easily taken care of.
I think Steve will be done in the next 2 weeks for sure. The Tops are swelling up, and starting to purple a bit. I like the uniformity I got out of the plant. Makes me want to play with seeds more than clones next year.
Good luck in the coming weeks for those still hanging in their.
Sir Napsalot
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My blackcherry cheesecase is all hanging in the bathroom- I still have my chernobyl outside
graying.geek
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Hat-tip to you folks who've kept 'em healthy this long. Nice colors, too.