Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

Shwagbag said:

No go on the Dr. Earth eh? I use a shit ton of their organic nutrients. I'm vegging a few in their POTting soil and they seem to like it. Pro Mix BX is my favorite base for sure tho. I think my next mix will just use pro-mix as the base and then I'll just go crazy with that.

I should have some ladies going into my latest mix in the next week or so. I really wanted to try the ecoscraps products but my local home depot doesn't stock them and shipping was a bit unreasonable for the amount I want to order. Kinda pisses me off really. They have thousands of cubic feet taken up by 8 different miracle grow soils but they can't dedicate a couple hundred to a product like ecoscraps. Bleh.


I hope everyone is having a good weekend!

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It's all in how you use things and apply yourself to them man! I can't vouch for anything being terrible at this point.
I'm still on the same batch of amendments that I purchased 8 months ago, and the only thing I'll need to get more of for my next run is bat guano.
And that's after mixing 5 to 6 batches of 15-18gals of soil, and using them in teas too.

But the reason I chose FFOF as a base is because it's diverse as hell in regards to the contents within. At this point tho, all my based soil is my soil mix.
I didn't buy any new soil to mix this last batch tho, so technically, the soil mix I'm using at this point is my own.
And I would have tried the ecoscraps too, but Lowes is like right next door to me so I went with it.
That compost that I got from there def. looked the part and smelled the part bro, and at $6 for a cu ft. You can't complain lol
And Miracle Gro is everywhere you not lol!

Ive been growing for over 10 years and I'm still learning. Did hydro for most of that time. Only been doing soil for 3 years. There's always new knowledge. I bake out on university studies all the time. But I'm the guy who is always experimenting. Sometimes its a few steps back. I can say I will always be doing organics and never do hydro ever again.

hyroot said:

When i would take hours breaking down soil it was 10 7 gals at a time. Cool cool. I'm not pushing it. I'm just saying what has happened. Thats all.




Dr. Earth only makes 2 good things their kelp and fish bone meal. Ecoscraps is only sold in 2 counties in socal. You should be able to have it shipped to the store at no shipping cost.

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Its one of the products they don't offer free shipping to store for I have to purchase manu direct.

I've been very happy with all my Dr. Earth products. I've used probably close to a dozen as well as their organic fertilizer mixes. The bud & bloom mix makes a lovely tea ingredient and the Life makes a great top dressing for vegging plants in promix. To each their own, we all have different needs I suppose

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hyroot said:

Ive been growing for over 10 years and I'm still learning. Did hydro for most of that time. Only been doing soil for 3 years. There's always new knowledge. I bake out on university studies all the time. But I'm the guy who is always experimenting. Sometimes its a few steps back. I can say I will always be doing organics and never do hydro ever again.

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We have a lot in common bro. I make moves tho. No steps backwards. Only forward bro.
I don't make the same mistakes twice and I change things one at a time, so that I can isolate the variables in the things I do.
That's the only reason that once I started buying FFOF, I kept buying FFOF. Now I'm buying nada lol. It's my own soil mix.

But you're right bro, there will be things for us to learn until the last time we wake up

hyroot said:

Ive been growing for over 10 years and I'm still learning. Did hydro for most of that time. Only been doing soil for 3 years. There's always new knowledge. I bake out on university studies all the time. But I'm the guy who is always experimenting. Sometimes its a few steps back. I can say I will always be doing organics and never do hydro ever again.

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If you dont mind me asking hyroot, why did you go to soil from hydro?

Jimdamick said:

If you dont mind me asking hyroot, why did you go to soil from hydro?

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I hate resi changes more than x girlfriend drama. Originally it was because of noise. I shared a wall with my land lord. The quality of soil buds far surpassed hydro and were much denser. I was sold after that. Growing soil is cheaper. Less work and more forgiving. No ph to check. I can leave for 5 days with out a problem. With hydro there was always something. Leaks. Tubes clogging. Pumps breaking down. Scrubbing kits.

The only benefit of hydro Imo is faster veg time. I did aero and fill and drain x film. Built all my kits.

Its kind of like using hps then trying par t5, led and cmh and realizing how shitty and wasteful hps is.

Fantastic reading for me to catch up on.

As an outsider and a non-experienced/new grower I still like FFOF. Like Sin said. What works for you works for you whatever, whatever . My personal experience with FFOF is that I started of with MG Organic and plants had nothing but problems. When I put them into FFOF they were happy. Again - this was a straight soil set-up. Not really ideal but it was what I had to work with at the time.

I love reading both sides to the story of one product to the other. Always good knowledge - even if I'm still sticking with FFOF!

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Sin,

I mean if it really comes down to it - it DOESN'T really matter what soil you get once the nutes / soil run out of life. When you "re-amend" it - at that point it's your own soup, right? So in the end, it doesn't matter really. Am I wrong?

Too - What are you using Aloe for? I don't get that.

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"I mean if it really comes down to it - it DOESN'T really matter what soil you get once the nutes / soil run out of life. When you "re-amend" it - at that point it's your own soup, right? So in the end, it doesn't matter really. Am I wrong? "

HELL NO your not wrong lol, your right on boss! FFOF worked WONDERS for me the first two grows and that was using it after amending it right outta the bag.
Nowadays tho, I'm not using FFOF lol. I'm using my own soil. After one run, it'll be that way for you too boss.
And I did a few things with this mix for a reason, like beefed of the percentage of humus in the soil so that I can push my girls a little further with the teas!

But this thread is featuring Fox Farm Ocean Forest because it's what I started out with!
Not bcuz I work for them or something..I just kept working with it to hone in on a better recipe, which I've done.
But i just never been into the this is bad and that's bad game lol.
I can't even hate on Miracle Gro, bcuz Ive seen guys do #WORK in it bro!
It's all on the grower and what he can do!

And for aloe, I went and bought a few plants! They're $1 a piece locally lol! Check your local Craigslist fam! If they don't have them, check you local nurseries or plant stores. I got a BIG one from the nursery for $4.99.
And I'm gonna use the aloe on the leaves, the same way I would use it on my skin pretty much boss. It's FULL of vitamins and nutrients man! FULL OF EM!
And this stuff has just as many medicinal uses as cannabis lol. You use it for EVERYTHING! It's good for cloning as well! Just gotta harvest that magic gel they're filled with!
Also gotta get some barely seeds, and some comfrey leaf bro.
Gonna up my game with the foliar sprays this time around as well.

And good morning homie and master growers and master growers in the making!!!
It's about that time to bake up lol!

You literally rub the aloe on the plant it self? I have a bunch of that stuff in my garden grows like wild fire if you let it.

Word. I may buy another bag of ffof and cook two batches of soil.

When I make this soil should I water it with just the tea recipe??

I'll post some info that I've found recently on it for ya in a bit boss.
But you can use it several different ways. You can use it in the AACT or you can use it as a foliar spray. I plan on doing both.
It's also good for cloning and for wetting you clone soil with! Lots of shit bro.
I'll drop some knowledge for ya in a bit tho.

And cool on the mixing the couple more batches.
After you mix it up, wet it down with an AACT for sure.
You don't have to, but it's jumpstart and speed of the process, and your pouring more microbes over the soil, to process the nutrients that you put in it, and that are already in it boss.
So mix you're soil and then start it cooking with an AACT for sure.
My soil smell likes mother nature herself bro! That's the smell you should be looking for after maybe 2-3wk. Once you get that smell, you ready to pot up boss.

Thanks boss.

I want to maybe make two or three batches of ffof. So I can have more plants going . Scored 80 seeds. Mmmmmmmm

NICE! But I've been looking for a while bro, to not much avail.
I think it's gonna be a trial and error type things to see how it works.
I've seen a tbsp per gallon and 1.5 cups per gallon.

So I'll start with a tbsp per gallon and we'll see what we see from there boss.
Most the stuff I've been able to find involves diluting and aloe juice and using that rather than the fresh aloe leaf.
We'll get it right within the first couple weeks tho.
One things for certain tho, is that it works for the plants leaves just like it works for our skin and it SUPER nutritional bro.

And 80 seeds! DAYUMMMM MAN! I bet you feeling like a NEW man lol! I know I would be!
I'm about to be rocking and rolling again here REAL soon boss. 10 new stains, ALL FIRE!

FIRE GROWER , FIRE COLAZ!

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Tru, I'll let you know how my shit comes through. Yeah dude - I just landed a new source with fem seeds. Has the technique down - I want to LEARNNNN.

Yeah these seeds are a mix of Lemon Haze , Cali , White Widow , and a few other shit. Hawaiian or something? Idk all I know is I need to get another lamp if I want to UPGRADE. Cus I'm guessing I can get about 9 plants with this 600w lamp. MMmmmm Nom nommm

#ElevationMusic!

And hell yeah about them seeds boss.
I'm about to breed and get my own if I get a damn male! Got the 3 chances this round to get one.
The GDP, Ace of Spades, and Bay 11
Track is still ridin too lol

Damn.

Yo I was wondering why I wasn't getting any males with these seeds. It was from my connect. I was super pissed to get no more seedz. DAMNNMMMM

I may give my source all my male if my "reg" seeds turn out to be males. (PRAYING TO THE WEEDL0RD)


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I was out night last night with my boys, and some of them are master cooks. Too bad we don't know each other in the real world.

Yeah bro. Seeds you find in loud are 9/10 times gonna be female bro.
When you're breeding for seeds tho, it's a different beast, so you can end up with some of both.

& my network reaches as far as Australia bro.
There's no telling where I might be tomorrow. Just keep up w/ me boss.
Tomorrow is looking good as always

Just trying to keep it like that and capitalize on it

God like man.

I didn't know that about seeds. Hmm. Just got to keep hoping for a male. Go figure why I always see people going crazy over a male. For a male plant - can you keep them alive for a long long time?

Nothin special about them really bro. Just that they spew pollen. You can use them to knock a female plant up, or just harvest their pollen and pollinate a few buds per plant, for a few seeds from that bud.

Ah true - forgot about reading up on that.

Soon enough I'll be having a veg. room.. I can't wait for that!! No more DOWNTIME!

I'm not sure what size t5 to get for my veg setup. I'm only going to veg maybe 4 to 8 at a time...

I was looking at the Sun Blaze t5 22 or 24. But I'm not sure if that will even be enough.

edit ; I wouldn't even mind only having one or two vegging at a time.

edit again :

Put more thought into this.. I could just use my current space - ditch the tent and cut the grow room in half. Speaking vertically in half not side to side half. I can still run the same ducting system just need to find a proper size t5 set up and a good way to seal off any light seepage.

If you have the ability to cool that room adequately bro, I'd jump up to HPS asap.
You can veg for sure with T5 and flower with them too, its just that personally, I noticed a BIG difference in bud size when I upped to flowering with HPS.
They do get warm tho bro, so make you're you get air cooled reflectors to cool everything easier. T5s and CFLs will get the job done tho. Just not as fast and might not grow as chunky buds